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- ToroKenshee On 2017-03-27 09:21:20
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If u have followed Scion's words of advice, u would know that this is coming. He has been d first to go against OG for telling us the truth and cut off the profit OG was trying to milk us from. All the while Scion had been teaching us how to spend smart because this OG is a greedy pig.
Unlike China, who always seek to balance p2w to f2p players, this North America version never did and only create a larger imbalance between f2p n p2w. China go all d way to cancel events which they realized are widening the gap even more.
now u telling me that Scion spoke nothing?
He din discredit Aris, but if u had known what Aris had done in the past, this action of his was to atone for what he did wrong in the past (by saying good stuff abt OG because he was paid by them regardless of them being the truth or not). At the end of d video he even give credits to Aris for finally taking one for the team.
China balancing p2p to f2p?? Lmaooooo, please keep getting all your information from Scion, a youtuber that has lied numerous times and provided false info in many different videos without owning up to his mistakes. His video was completely unnecessary, he just had to chime in, give his 2 cents and attempt to convince people "hurr I was first!11!!". Aris has also been giving the company * whenever they pulled something bad on us, as is the case with a lot of other youtubers, don't think for a second that scion is special in any way. -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 14:50:30
- China balancing p2p to f2p?? Lmaooooo, please keep getting all your information from Scion, a youtuber that has lied numerous times and provided false info in many different videos without owning up to his mistakes. His video was completely unnecessary, he just had to chime in, give his 2 cents and attempt to convince people "hurr I was first!11!!". Aris has also been giving the company * whenever they pulled something bad on us, as is the case with a lot of other youtubers, don't think for a second that scion is special in any way.
dude its not about which youtuber against which youtuber. you have your own opinion so are others. learn some manners n focus on the topic at hand unless u are receiving your in-game cheques from OG then stfu. -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 14:50:30
- China balancing p2p to f2p?? Lmaooooo, please keep getting all your information from Scion, a youtuber that has lied numerous times and provided false info in many different videos without owning up to his mistakes. His video was completely unnecessary, he just had to chime in, give his 2 cents and attempt to convince people "hurr I was first!11!!". Aris has also been giving the company * whenever they pulled something bad on us, as is the case with a lot of other youtubers, don't think for a second that scion is special in any way.
Nope, we as his loyal subscriber requested for his opinion on the matter, thus why we made him make that video. if you re not a fan then take your childish whining elsewhere.
I have learnt a lot from Scion from when I just started when they were milking us to get Sasori using real money which in a few weeks, he was available for free. Same things that will happen to Konan and other GNW ninjas.
Then look at what happened? Those f2p players ended up spending too much resource on Ninjas rather than focus on their BP, thus the GAP between f2p and p2w getting larger.
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- ToroKenshee On 2017-03-27 15:09:25
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Nope, we as his loyal subscriber requested for his opinion on the matter, thus why we made him make that video. if you re not a fan then take your childish whining elsewhere.
I have learnt a lot from Scion from when I just started when they were milking us to get Sasori using real money which in a few weeks, he was available for free. Same things that will happen to Konan and other GNW ninjas.
Then look at what happened? Those f2p players ended up spending too much resource on Ninjas rather than focus on their BP, thus the GAP between f2p and p2w getting larger.
Is China doing that? No.
So because you request his view on the matter you get him having a rant about how he was first to complain as well as tell Aris "he doesn't deserve a pat on the back" for having the actual * to go the extra mile and show evidence of all the things we've been suspecting?
Because people are too dumb to realize that BP is more important than ninjas it doesn't mean that it's OG's fault? China constantly has events that make you choose between power or building up ninjas over time with your coupons/dailies as well as having MULTIPLE recharge events that only benefit people with power. Take off those rose-tinted glasses you're wearing to look at CN and go play the version for yourself to form an opinion instead of taking the word of a heavily biased youtuber. -
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- Clazsic On 2017-03-27 15:00:35
- dude its not about which youtuber against which youtuber. you have your own opinion so are others. learn some manners n focus on the topic at hand unless u are receiving your in-game cheques from OG then stfu.
Because not liking scion = to being employed by Oasis? You fanboys are really embarrassing yourselves. -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 15:16:09
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So because you request his view on the matter you get him having a rant about how he was first to complain as well as tell Aris "he doesn't deserve a pat on the back" for having the actual * to go the extra mile and show evidence of all the things we've been suspecting?
Because people are too dumb to realize that BP is more important than ninjas it doesn't mean that it's OG's fault? China constantly has events that make you choose between power or building up ninjas over time with your coupons/dailies as well as having MULTIPLE recharge events that only benefit people with power. Take off those rose-tinted glasses you're wearing to look at CN and go play the version for yourself to form an opinion instead of taking the word of a heavily biased youtuber.
Scion gave aris the credits at the end of his video.
and whats your point with all these? Wat are you trying to achieve? I dont understand the fact that u feel our current basic meta ninjas are even d slightest comparable to what China has to offer. So u feel China is no difference than OG despite giving away more free ninjas available to pick and not trying to milk every penny of ours to get our own gnw ninjas or konan the likes? The fact that u feel China is not much better than OG already suggested that u are the biased one. what more of a troll can u be, awesome. -
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- Clazsic On 2017-03-27 15:26:31
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Scion gave aris the credits at the end of his video.
and whats your point with all these? Wat are you trying to achieve? I dont understand the fact that u feel our current basic meta ninjas are even d slightest comparable to what China has to offer. So u feel China is no difference than OG despite giving away more free ninjas available to pick and not trying to milk every penny of ours to get our own gnw ninjas or konan the likes? The fact that u feel China is not much better than OG already suggested that u are the biased one. what more of a troll can u be, awesome.
CN meta =/= Our me ta
Our version is behind in terms of updates because of the huge gap of the 2 versions releases. The CN version has been up for YEARS while ours is closing in on it's first one. You can't demand all of our current ninjas to be in the shops for free because a future version has better ones.
And as a matter of fact Killer Bee, a lot of the barrier ninjas and DPB Hidan are all meta in CN and appear often in our events and for our me ta a lot of the nins in the events other than the ones I mentioned are also extremely decent for the current state of the game. -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 15:31:57
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CN me
ta =/= Our me ta
Our version is behind in terms of updates because of the huge gap of the 2 versions releases. The CN version has been up for YEARS while ours is closing in on it's first one. You can't demand all of our current ninjas to be in the shops for free because a future version has better ones.
And as a matter of fact Killer Bee, a lot of the barrier ninjas and DPB Hidan are all meta in CN and appear often in our events and for our me ta a lot of the nins in the events other than the ones I mentioned are also extremely decent for the current state of the game.
Nice thread derailing. Could we please focus on the thing that is important? Which is Oasis making a statement that players are still waiting for, regarding stuff that was leaked? Dont get me wrong it's good to know what we are getting in the next few weeks, but Oasis... maybe adress the elephant in the room and tell us about the rates, about how some rare ninjas are limited to 1 per day and other stuff this guy was talking about. Would love to hear from you on those topics.
Btw I noticed a lot of spamm x50 coupons today from the consumtpion wheel. Is it cause it's monday or you upped the rates a little? -
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- Dashqui On 2017-03-27 15:37:25
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Nice thread derailing. Could we please focus on the thing that is important? Which is Oasis making a statement that players are still waiting for, regarding stuff that was leaked? Dont get me wrong it's good to know what we are getting in the next few weeks, but Oasis... maybe adress the elephant in the room and tell us about the rates, about how some rare ninjas are limited to 1 per day and other stuff this guy was talking about. Would love to hear from you on those topics.
Btw I noticed a lot of spamm x50 coupons today from the consumtpion wheel. Is it cause it's monday or you upped the rates a little?
>implying I derailed the thread
And they did address it, it goes after the "false rumors" section, which it means they're basically ignoring the biggest issues we have against them, very classy move by them /s -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 15:17:16
- Because not liking scion = to being employed by Oasis? You fanboys are really embarrassing yourselves.
lol ure just another OG's minion.
u spoke about us being later behind justifying OG to give u those new ninjas gradually at your grandmother's pace. Then can u explain why there are so many f2ps quitting in every servers with the same complaints. if u re so good then wht do u propose, dont just all talk here derailing the topics at hand. -
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jinsoyun ur trying to become the 2nd aris right?
keep *ing up maybe they give u free 9 tail kyubi. i DONT FUKING CARE about the youtubers. but oasis LIED and MANIPULATED the event. whats ur excuse for that ? COME ON ,CAME U WITHSOMETHING FOR YOUR KYUBI NINE TAIL ,BROTHER JINSOYUN -
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All of you Scion fanboys fail to realize several things...
1) Everything he says is basic knowledge and can easily be researched on your own. Props to making some of it more transparent but he has also been wrong several times. Literally first week he said never top up and don't get medal cause it's useless. The next week he had topped up like $100 bucks and was praising the medal. Sure you can gain some knowledge from that but in reality it's nothing you couldn't see for yourself or get from a better source. He also stated that you shouldn't buy the ninjas from the shop because the prices are so high then, immediately after the new system was put in, talked about how he regretted not getting more stars to buy better ninja in the new system. Everything he does ends up being contradictory.
2) All of his info about CN servers comes from google translate as well as slight trial and error with little actual knowledge of the process they went through. He himself had said that he didn't play on CN for months and it was during those several months that most of the features we are slated to get came out.
3) If you haven't played on CN you won't realize it but they cater to paying players just as well. Do you think that a free ninja from the seal/tendo treasure that they give you in random gift packs is in any way, shape or form usable in CN meta? Just cause he hypes them up doesn't make them good, or even usable for that matter. If you played CN at all you would see level 30 players day one with Hokage Tsunades and Susanoo Sasuke. You think your free Ningendo will compete with that? And yes, that is comparing paying player to F2P but it still doesn't leave much room to argue that CN is that much better th*.
4) Last but not least. CN region was the pro*or of this game. They are the original and the longest running. Of course they won't trouble giving out free * like ninjas from the first three or so packs because they are all, except for Sage Naruto and Hashi with skill books, useless.
Bloody hell. It's like nobody can think for themselves or try out the other regions before being completely biased in their opinions. Frankly speaking, I don't hate Scion by any means because he is a decent source of knowledge for very early players and does put out some content reveals for CN: Which is the only thing that I feel his videos are really interesting or good for. He, in himself, is really not that great a strategist or good player by any means. Yes he can save you a little bit of time and money but that's literally just by stating things that are so blatantly obvious it shouldn't have to be stated. I can get why some people really like him and what he does but as a player that sees a lot of flaws in his info, I no longer prescribe to it.
TL;DR
Scion has some interesting videos because we see CN updates as best as a non-speaker can give but in terms of actual skill/understanding he is subpar.
Also I'm prepared for the 9 million dislikes I am about to get for *ting on "the best youtuber" especially since he appears to be the lord of the flamy F2P. -_- -
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- sixpacklai On 2017-03-27 15:46:02
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lol ure just another OG's minion.
u spoke about us being later behind justifying OG to give u those new ninjas gradually at your grandmother's pace. Then can u explain why there are so many f2ps quitting in every servers with the same complaints. if u re so good then wht do u propose, dont just all talk here derailing the topics at hand.
Where in this thread have you seen my actually justify the actions that were brought up in Aris' video? Like did any of you even watch HALF the video and did you soak in ANY of the points Aris made or are you just going by with what you've heard from various other uninformed people? Dumbasses. -
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- Rozuka On 2017-03-27 15:46:47
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All of you Scion fanboys fail to realize several things...
1) Everything he says is basic knowledge and can easily be researched on your own. Props to making some of it more transparent but he has also been wrong several times. Literally first week he said never top up and don't get medal cause it's useless. The next week he had topped up like $100 bucks and was praising the medal. Sure you can gain some knowledge from that but in reality it's nothing you couldn't see for yourself or get from a better source. He also stated that you shouldn't buy the ninjas from the shop because the prices are so high then, immediately after the new system was put in, talked about how he regretted not getting more stars to buy better ninja in the new system. Everything he does ends up being contradictory.
2) All of his info about CN servers comes from google translate as well as slight trial and error with little actual knowledge of the process they went through. He himself had said that he didn't play on CN for months and it was during those several months that most of the features we are slated to get came out.
3) If you haven't played on CN you won't realize it but they cater to paying players just as well. Do you think that a free ninja from the seal/tendo treasure that they give you in random gift packs is in any way, shape or form usable in CN meta? Just cause he hypes them up doesn't make them good, or even usable for that matter. If you played CN at all you would see level 30 players day one with Hokage Tsunades and Susanoo Sasuke. You think your free Ningendo will compete with that? And yes, that is comparing paying player to F2P but it still doesn't leave much room to argue that CN is that much better th*.
4) Last but not least. CN region was the pro*or of this game. They are the original and the longest running. Of course they won't trouble giving out free * like ninjas from the first three or so packs because they are all, except for Sage Naruto and Hashi with skill books, useless.
Bloody hell. It's like nobody can think for themselves or try out the other regions before being completely biased in their opinions. Frankly speaking, I don't hate Scion by any means because he is a decent source of knowledge for very early players and does put out some content reveals for CN: Which is the only thing that I feel his videos are really interesting or good for. He, in himself, is really not that great a strategist or good player by any means. Yes he can save you a little bit of time and money but that's literally just by stating things that are so blatantly obvious it shouldn't have to be stated. I can get why some people really like him and what he does but as a player that sees a lot of flaws in his info, I no longer prescribe to it.
TL;DR
Scion has some interesting videos because we see CN updates as best as a non-speaker can give but in terms of actual skill/understanding he is subpar.
Also I'm prepared for the 9 million dislikes I am about to get for *ting on "the best youtuber" especially since he appears to be the lord of the flamy F2P. -_-
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- Rozuka On 2017-03-27 15:46:47
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All of you Scion fanboys fail to realize several things...
1) Everything he says is basic knowledge and can easily be researched on your own. Props to making some of it more transparent but he has also been wrong several times. Literally first week he said never top up and don't get medal cause it's useless. The next week he had topped up like $100 bucks and was praising the medal. Sure you can gain some knowledge from that but in reality it's nothing you couldn't see for yourself or get from a better source. He also stated that you shouldn't buy the ninjas from the shop because the prices are so high then, immediately after the new system was put in, talked about how he regretted not getting more stars to buy better ninja in the new system. Everything he does ends up being contradictory.
2) All of his info about CN servers comes from google translate as well as slight trial and error with little actual knowledge of the process they went through. He himself had said that he didn't play on CN for months and it was during those several months that most of the features we are slated to get came out.
3) If you haven't played on CN you won't realize it but they cater to paying players just as well. Do you think that a free ninja from the seal/tendo treasure that they give you in random gift packs is in any way, shape or form usable in CN meta? Just cause he hypes them up doesn't make them good, or even usable for that matter. If you played CN at all you would see level 30 players day one with Hokage Tsunades and Susanoo Sasuke. You think your free Ningendo will compete with that? And yes, that is comparing paying player to F2P but it still doesn't leave much room to argue that CN is that much better th*.
4) Last but not least. CN region was the pro*or of this game. They are the original and the longest running. Of course they won't trouble giving out free * like ninjas from the first three or so packs because they are all, except for Sage Naruto and Hashi with skill books, useless.
Bloody hell. It's like nobody can think for themselves or try out the other regions before being completely biased in their opinions. Frankly speaking, I don't hate Scion by any means because he is a decent source of knowledge for very early players and does put out some content reveals for CN: Which is the only thing that I feel his videos are really interesting or good for. He, in himself, is really not that great a strategist or good player by any means. Yes he can save you a little bit of time and money but that's literally just by stating things that are so blatantly obvious it shouldn't have to be stated. I can get why some people really like him and what he does but as a player that sees a lot of flaws in his info, I no longer prescribe to it.
TL;DR
Scion has some interesting videos because we see CN updates as best as a non-speaker can give but in terms of actual skill/understanding he is subpar.
Also I'm prepared for the 9 million dislikes I am about to get for *ting on "the best youtuber" especially since he appears to be the lord of the flamy F2P. -_-
brah,
no one worshipped Scion as a god that hes perfect and always right. But he showed us enough hindsight for us to make our own judgements. For instance, the future shop projections and what will be there, and what patience will reap for us in the future.
Even if CN server caters for P2W as well, the cost aint as expensive as what we have in NA, thus more people would be able to achieve that. FYI in late game, certain BP difference will not matter as much as getting ur strategies and ninja combinations right. Right now we dont even have enough ninja options for f2p to beat p2w in any way, its a crushing defeat every time. and the gap will get larger and larger as they are making u pay for every single new ninjas out there, compromising the opportunity to get more power. Had those * 2.0 shop been updated, that wont be 100% the case. The curiousity will keep players in the game way longer.
TLDR;
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 15:49:05
- Where in this thread have you seen my actually justify the actions that were brought up in Aris' video? Like did any of you even watch HALF the video and did you soak in ANY of the points Aris made or are you just going by with what you've heard from various other uninformed people? Dumbasses.
I meant u justified OG releasing ninjas to the shops late by saying these u smurf:
"Our version is behind in terms of updates because of the huge gap of the 2 versions releases. The CN version has been up for YEARS while ours is closing in on it's first one. You can't demand all of our current ninjas to be in the shops for free because a future version has better ones."
learn to read. so u think we should follow their pace and release Konan in shops 2 years later? u had no idea what CN server went through either did u. -
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- sixpacklai On 2017-03-27 16:00:55
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I meant u justified OG releasing ninjas to the shops late by saying these u smurf:
"Our version is behind in terms of updates because of the huge gap of the 2 versions releases. The CN version has been up for YEARS while ours is closing in on it's first one. You can't demand all of our current ninjas to be in the shops for free because a future version has better ones."
learn to read. so u think we should follow their pace and release Konan in shops 2 years later? u had no idea what CN server went through either did u.
And I never said I disagree with the need of Konan and Gakido (as well as some others) being in the shops. I said that all of you pricks want the strongest ninjas available to you for free because they aren't meta in a version that's 2 years ahead of us and believe me, I have more knowledge about the CN version than any of you monkeys combined.
At least one thing that the mods in the QQ chat were right about is that you people are completely dumb and impossible to hold a proper conversation with. -
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- Jinsoyun On 2017-03-27 16:06:58
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And I never said I disagree with the need of Konan and Gakido (as well as some others) being in the shops. I said that all of you pricks want the strongest ninjas available to you for free because they aren't me
ta in a version that's 2 years ahead of us and believe me, I have more knowledge about the CN version than any of you monkeys combined.
At least one thing that the mods in the QQ chat were right about is that you people are completely dumb and impossible to hold a proper conversation with.
I don't think community wants every kage ninja out in the shop for points. Community wants ninjas like weaker pains, Konan, maybe WB Asuma, overall tendo treasure. Who in their right mind pulls tendo anyway? Ffs. This is so long overdue, not to mention trying to shove pains down our throats in almost all possible events there are.
Let's look at shop updates and what we got after half a year. Itachi, Deidara, Animal path, ummm oh yea Sasori! 4 ninjas. I would say that's kinda underwhelming. Not to mention other stuff like fixed rates on drops when it comes to events ( U wanted those kuybi frags? Shame someone got the already but gimme $ yay! ), overall lack of trust from the community, no new PvE content ( sorry I did NE as most of the ppl I play with like 3 months ago ), poll system that is apparently totally unnecesary.
Edit ; and a lot of other issues that the game is having atm. I would say transparency and some updates are quite badly needed. Not to mention that I hope Oasis will adress these issues. Look at this topic. People still wait for your answer Oasis!
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