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On 2017-05-30 03:49:05Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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When I look to the top 10 of every servor, i don't see any of the reanimated ninja.

So.. Is this treasure that bad ? No one of them are in the best comp ?
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On 2017-05-30 04:02:52Show this Author Only
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"Not good enough"
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On 2017-05-30 04:07:38Show this Author Only
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you can make some fun formations with them i dont mind them.. but if you cant collect seal scrolls easy i wouldnt recommend.. i just did my 130 pulls for gengetsu only and thats it.. i also got 6 frags of itachi so not bad :D
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On 2017-05-30 04:31:13Show this Author Only
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Their only downfall are that they are 2* - so naturally their stats are lower which makes them do less damage and easier to kill.

If they were 3* then I'm sure more people would bother pulling in it.
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On 2017-06-12 03:08:23Show this Author Only
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They're fun trick ninjas to play with in Arena, but unless you spend some real time pulling from the Edo Tensei treasure, they just won't be as effective as a Kage Rare. That said, you DO get rares every 30 or 40 pulls, I believe, so if you're looking to spend the money in an attempt to make them "meta-material," that's the only real benefit.
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On 2017-06-12 12:24:25Show this Author Only
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I'm allergic to 2-stars.
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On 2017-06-12 12:53:36Show this Author Only
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None of the reanimated ninjas are meta viable, even if you do get them to 3 star. You won't be able to make a good team using reanimated ninjas until a few more treasures down the line. (After second half of reanimated, both halves of jin, and first half of gnw treasure.. then you can build proper reanimated lineups.) But it'll be a long time for all those treasures to come.
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On 2017-06-14 00:37:45Show this Author Only
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Overall, I really do like Reanimated treasure ninjas, but they are indeed hard to find a place for them.

Now, the fact they are 2 stars is both a disadvantage and advantage at the same time, depending on how dedicated to pulling you are. If you are satisfied with just 3 star ninjas, it is far easier to obtain 3 star Kage treasure ninja, and most of them are very good. On the other hand it is much easier to get 4 star Reanimated ninja than it is to get a 4 star kage ninja.
(Non rare pulls however are a nightmare though, as they only yield 10 fragments per pull)

But the ninjas in there are very gimmicky, which means they are all fun to play, but also very situational.

Rasa and Gengetsu (super rares) are nice, but unusable outside of arena because of their stars.
On the other hand you may get these guys to 3 stars in half the scrolls required to get kage super rare... I still wouldn't recommend going for them.

Mu would be my pick for the best ninja in this treasure, and I really can imagine his 4 star version do some real work. It';s a good ninja no matter what way you look at him.

Kinkaku is also nice due to the fact he shields and buffs all reanimated ninjas. But just as Bee, this skill of his is not that relevant yet, they will both become far more important when reanimated jinjuriki arrive.

Kabuto and Ginkaku are both a bit underwhelming. They do have their use on rare occasions, but meh.

Non rare ninjas are good, GNW hinata and Temari especially. But these guys are dragged down by being 2 star, and only getting 10 fragments on pull.

So yeah, overall this treasure is not as good as kage treasure, but is much easier to use. I myself do want to get Mu higher, but with next treasure coming up, it's not really the best thing to do, especially since it will change the meta game a bit.
That being said IF you like the ninjas in there, have some good strategies for them, or just enjoy their gimmicks - feel free to go for them. It doesn't really matter that much what ninjas you use in this game as far as you like your team. Of course you will not beat some players with a bad team, but truth be told, you definitely won't beat them by using their team either :P
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On 2017-06-14 01:01:32Show this Author Only
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  • TakafumiNaito On 2017-06-14 00:37:45
  • Overall, I really do like Reanimated treasure ninjas, but they are indeed hard to find a place for them.

    Now, the fact they are 2 stars is both a disadvantage and advantage at the same time, depending on how dedicated to pulling you are. If you are satisfied with just 3 star ninjas, it is far easier to obtain 3 star Kage treasure ninja, and most of them are very good. On the other hand it is much easier to get 4 star Reanimated ninja than it is to get a 4 star kage ninja.
    (Non rare pulls however are a nightmare though, as they only yield 10 fragments per pull)

    But the ninjas in there are very gimmicky, which means they are all fun to play, but also very situational.

    Rasa and Gengetsu (super rares) are nice, but unusable outside of arena because of their stars.
    On the other hand you may get these guys to 3 stars in half the scrolls required to get kage super rare... I still wouldn't recommend going for them.

    Mu would be my pick for the best ninja in this treasure, and I really can imagine his 4 star version do some real work. It';s a good ninja no matter what way you look at him.

    Kinkaku is also nice due to the fact he shields and buffs all reanimated ninjas. But just as Bee, this skill of his is not that relevant yet, they will both become far more important when reanimated jinjuriki arrive.

    Kabuto and Ginkaku are both a bit underwhelming. They do have their use on rare occasions, but meh.

    Non rare ninjas are good, GNW hinata and Temari especially. But these guys are dragged down by being 2 star, and only getting 10 fragments on pull.

    So yeah, overall this treasure is not as good as kage treasure, but is much easier to use. I myself do want to get Mu higher, but with next treasure coming up, it's not really the best thing to do, especially since it will change the meta game a bit.
    That being said IF you like the ninjas in there, have some good strategies for them, or just enjoy their gimmicks - feel free to go for them. It doesn't really matter that much what ninjas you use in this game as far as you like your team. Of course you will not beat some players with a bad team, but truth be told, you definitely won't beat them by using their team either :P
we actualy get 25 frags per repeat pull from this treasure, they tweeked the numbers to be better since the ninjas start at 2*.

@op - there r only a few ninjas that can compete with the rares and super rares already out from before this treasure, Mu and Rasa, the rest fall short. Mu is a team wide aoe with a rez and stun if he started as a 3* people would be using him, but even then hes just not amazing like other ninjas us high spenders have, he doesnt hit as hard as mei who also stuns on aoe, but she has ignite too, sage naruto hits harder and keeps spawning clone to soak up damage, his only real use is on a ranked battle team. Rasa would be a good replacement for Kazekage Gaara WM teams since Rasa can stun 3 out of 4 people on a team, but he doesnt give barrier and again is 2* so not as strong to start and he isnt as good in ranked battle.
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On 2017-06-14 01:08:00Show this Author Only
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Indeed RARE ninjas give 25 frags, which combined with the 20-40 gates makes it so it's easier to get 4 star reanimated ninja than 4 star kage.
But normal ninjas, like hinata temari tenten, only give 10 fragments. I mentioned both of these factors in my previous post.
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On 2017-06-14 03:40:15Show this Author Only
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GNW Tenten, GNW Hinata, GNW Kankuro are imo the 3 best ninjas in the treasure. GNW Tenten is still very powerful even at 2 stars. GNW Hinata however just has much better mystery and can combo off herself. GNW Kankuro being very valuable even at 2 stars for Ninja Exam at some levels with ignite and poison (Provided you didn't pull or buy him already)

Ginkaku can offer some CC. (Had a team as Lightning Main I believe using him with Hinata and Danzo with a chase 8) And I feel he can help with Mei Mystery in round 2 or even help GNW Tenten.
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On 2017-06-14 08:28:32Show this Author Only
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The mizukage is one of the coolest ninjas around but i wouldnt call him strong per say compared to the kage ninjas like mei who do a little of everything and do tonn of dmg on top. Its more of a filler treasure really the good reanimated ninja like the swordsmen will be much better but they wont be here for a while. This post was last edited by Belerephon at 2017-6-14 08:35
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On 2017-06-14 18:04:49Show this Author Only
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I've dropped 300+ seals into Edo Tensei treasure and tested most of them out at 3 stars. While none fit in the meta spectacularly, it's worth to note that sometimes they glue perfectly into fun teams.

Rasa of course suffers from the 80 chakra challenge, but if you can manage to trigger his chase he's pretty nasty. The "guaranteed" immobile on his standard and mystery is immensely useful in situations vs super tanks that normally are "immune" due to being unchaseable, or your teams paralyzed, etc.

Gengetsu does pretty high single target dmg, but the rng on his turn 1 combo makes him difficult to plan chakra for. His tag clone is great for the next round if you have a follow up aoe to really do damage, or if you can play off the tags (Minato/Hidan, etc) Having another Edo ninja in the formation I feel is difficult, Haku comes to mind but then you need 60 chakra on turn 1 to really use them.

Ginkaku is an amazing ninja with initiative. Being able to immobile on turn 1 (interrupt or deny action/chase) is possibly one of the best counter team mysteries in the game. Add in the acupuncture chase for some extra punishment. In addition he generates chakra so he's very easy to fit into many teams.

Kinkaku on the other hand I feel is more difficult to use. His mystery is generally inferior to GNW Tenten and in my opinion wastes an opportunity to combo attack on turn 2. The shield/combo buff to another edo tensei ninja could open up some strats, but at the moment I feel like he's just a cheesy glue to a mediocre mystery combo team.

I haven't really tried out Kabuto. I see him as a superior ress bot that can delay out fights for awhile, but the 10% life is kind of a turn off. He just seems too "special" which generally means difficult to make work.
GNW Hinata I find works great with blitz - as she basically has 160% life and a repulsion mechanism. Easy to buff, easy to fit her chases in with many teams.

This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-6-14 18:06
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On 2017-06-14 20:05:10Show this Author Only
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  • Loaf On 2017-06-14 18:04:49
  • I've dropped 300+ seals into Edo Tensei treasure and tested most of them out at 3 stars. While none fit in the meta spectacularly, it's worth to note that sometimes they glue perfectly into fun teams.

    Rasa of course suffers from the 80 chakra challenge, but if you can manage to trigger his chase he's pretty nasty. The "guaranteed" immobile on his standard and mystery is immensely useful in situations vs super tanks that normally are "immune" due to being unchaseable, or your teams paralyzed, etc.

    Gengetsu does pretty high single target dmg, but the rng on his turn 1 combo makes him difficult to plan chakra for. His tag clone is great for the next round if you have a follow up aoe to really do damage, or if you can play off the tags (Minato/Hidan, etc) Having another Edo ninja in the formation I feel is difficult, Haku comes to mind but then you need 60 chakra on turn 1 to really use them.

    Ginkaku is an amazing ninja with initiative. Being able to immobile on turn 1 (interrupt or deny action/chase) is possibly one of the best counter team mysteries in the game. Add in the acupuncture chase for some extra punishment. In addition he generates chakra so he's very easy to fit into many teams.

    Kinkaku on the other hand I feel is more difficult to use. His mystery is generally inferior to GNW Tenten and in my opinion wastes an opportunity to combo attack on turn 2. The shield/combo buff to another edo tensei ninja could open up some strats, but at the moment I feel like he's just a cheesy glue to a mediocre mystery combo team.

    I haven't really tried out Kabuto. I see him as a superior ress bot that can delay out fights for awhile, but the 10% life is kind of a turn off. He just seems too "special" which generally means difficult to make work.
    GNW Hinata I find works great with blitz - as she basically has 160% life and a repulsion mechanism. Easy to buff, easy to fit her chases in with many teams.

    This post was last edited by Loaf at 2017-6-14 18:06
I think gingkaku is pretty useless as well only time you really need that turn 1 immobilise is against a blitz where root makes his cc useless .
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On 2017-06-14 20:21:17Show this Author Only
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if you looking after itachi susano , i tink this treasure is the best to get him as in every 30 pulls you get 1/2 fragments
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