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On 2017-02-09 05:55:50Show this Author Only
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  • Sourav On 2017-02-09 05:46:27
  • Not sure if I fully understand it.
    Yes, I do have 3 tams saved. One for main team, one for nine tail and another team for a different lineup.
    Was very happy when this feature was introduced with 2.0, made switching teams for nine tail so much easier and less time consuming.

    I always use my main lineup in matsuri. But, does the gear order matter in the way I drag the team for matsuri? Do I have to drag them in a specific order, like order 1 ninja first, then order 2 and so on..

    Can't figure out if I'm missing something here.
    As for the initiative order, have a pretty high ini on order 1 ninja (about 3k after upgrading BA to rank 5 this week). But, since I only work on 1 gear at a time during a refine rebate event, 2nd set of gear is still around 1500 total and rest are all at rank 4. Now If matsuri count our average initiative same as survival, I can be beaten very easily. Is that how it works?
Hello again.

What i was telling him was ways to save the gear to make sure it dosnt get moved around, one of those ways is saving 3 different teams for matsuri for example. In other words you would override the ninetails team for your 3 other teams atleast initially.

The gear order for your main team is the same as the team outside in other words its already there, however if you switch the team to another team the gear could possibly be scrambled unless its saved from before.

Matsuri does not count average initiative. Only overall for passives and barriers.

Hope this helps you /Achroma
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On 2017-02-09 09:54:56Show this Author Only
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Hai again,

I heard something thats new recently, that the order of the buff can affect the outcome of one's battle. For example Shield buff, Iruka gives shield then there's other ninjas such as hiruzen which also adds resistance, or any other ninjas alike. How are they different and what kind of sequence will maximize my strength?

Also u mentioned 'As far as Tobirama or wind mains pre match blindness goes im not 100% sure without testing further however i believe they dont count as debuffs but rather control effects which are different and thus does not get cleansed in the same way as other debuffs like Ignite/Poison. (This also answers your number two question since he becomes immune to the immobile when its active)'
If you said blindness is control status like accupuncture/sleeping, there will be a control on my skill *on not allowing me to cast critical armor in the first place, however in blindness state, u are still able to cast mystery, for example critical armor without being able to do anything. Also, if an MB has its critical armor activated, and somehow u manage to cause blindness to him after he casted that skill, will that end up stopping him from moving if he has not? So if immobile doesnt work due to critical armor, then blindness would?
I also dont understand why u said immobile wont work if MB has already casted critical armor without root of warrior (since he is not immune whatsoever). I thought this was a bug.
This post was last edited by Clazsic_s134 at 2017-2-9 10:01
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On 2017-02-09 09:58:26Show this Author Only
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  • Clazsic On 2017-02-09 09:54:56
  • Hai again,

    I heard something thats new recently, that the order of the buff can affect the outcome of one's battle. For example Shield buff, Iruka gives shield then there's other ninjas such as hiruzen which also adds resistance, or any other ninjas alike. How are they different and what kind of sequence will maximize my strength?

    Also u mentioned 'As far as Tobirama or wind mains pre match blindness goes im not 100% sure without testing further however i believe they dont count as debuffs but rather control effects which are different and thus does not get cleansed in the same way as other debuffs like Ignite/Poison. (This also answers your number two question since he becomes immune to the immobile when its active)'
    If you said blindness is control status like accupuncture/sleeping, there will be a control on my skill *on not allowing me to cast critical armor in the first place, however in blindness state, u are still able to cast mystery, for example critical armor without being able to do anything. Also, if an MB has its critical armor activated, and somehow u manage to cause blindness to him after he casted that skill, will that end up stopping him from moving if he has not? So if immobile doesnt work due to critical armor, then blindness would?
    I also dont understand why u said immobile wont work if MB has already casted critical armor without root of warrior (since he is not immune whatsoever). I thought this was a bug.
    This post was last edited by Clazsic_s134 at 2017-2-9 10:01
If you read Iruka Description it said 50% shield of this unit base resistance meaning the buffs wont do anything i believe.
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On 2017-02-09 10:07:42Show this Author Only
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  • xpwnagexlucario On 2017-02-09 09:58:26
  • If you read Iruka Description it said 50% shield of this unit base resistance meaning the buffs wont do anything i believe.
how about main character's buff which buff attack & ninjutsu in general, should that buff be d last buff play a bigger role (perhaps after receiving other buffs from other ninjas).
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On 2017-02-09 18:36:25Show this Author Only
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  • Clazsic On 2017-02-09 09:54:56
  • Hai again,

    I heard something thats new recently, that the order of the buff can affect the outcome of one's battle. For example Shield buff, Iruka gives shield then there's other ninjas such as hiruzen which also adds resistance, or any other ninjas alike. How are they different and what kind of sequence will maximize my strength?

    Also u mentioned 'As far as Tobirama or wind mains pre match blindness goes im not 100% sure without testing further however i believe they dont count as debuffs but rather control effects which are different and thus does not get cleansed in the same way as other debuffs like Ignite/Poison. (This also answers your number two question since he becomes immune to the immobile when its active)'
    If you said blindness is control status like accupuncture/sleeping, there will be a control on my skill *on not allowing me to cast critical armor in the first place, however in blindness state, u are still able to cast mystery, for example critical armor without being able to do anything. Also, if an MB has its critical armor activated, and somehow u manage to cause blindness to him after he casted that skill, will that end up stopping him from moving if he has not? So if immobile doesnt work due to critical armor, then blindness would?
    I also dont understand why u said immobile wont work if MB has already casted critical armor without root of warrior (since he is not immune whatsoever). I thought this was a bug.
    This post was last edited by Clazsic_s134 at 2017-2-9 10:01
Hello again.

Now those abilities as stated above are based on "base stats" meaning the order wont have any effect on their shields etc, What usually matters on the order you move them in is if you are spawning clones etc and want shields on them aswell. Or possibly also the placement of the clones depending on where they go.


Not neccessarily as its not a control to make you unable to cast mystery but rather a control to make you unable to basic attack. This should have no effect on your mystery.

He is immune actually, Lightning armor makes you immune to debuffs aswell as cleansing the current debuffs (aslong as they dont make you unable to move/cast). It is just a typo on the skill (I just tested this myself so i know it works like that)

Blindness would not work due to lightning armor making you immune. While its possible for it to work before armor has been casted and override the first basic.

Hope this helps you /Achroma
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On 2017-02-10 01:52:55Show this Author Only
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  • Achroma On 2017-02-09 18:36:25
  • Hello again.

    Now those abilities as stated above are based on "base stats" meaning the order wont have any effect on their shields etc, What usually matters on the order you move them in is if you are spawning clones etc and want shields on them aswell. Or possibly also the placement of the clones depending on where they go.


    Not neccessarily as its not a control to make you unable to cast mystery but rather a control to make you unable to basic attack. This should have no effect on your mystery.

    He is immune actually, Lightning armor makes you immune to debuffs aswell as cleansing the current debuffs (aslong as they dont make you unable to move/cast). It is just a typo on the skill (I just tested this myself so i know it works like that)

    Blindness would not work due to lightning armor making you immune. While its possible for it to work before armor has been casted and override the first basic.

    Hope this helps you /Achroma
so there are two different types of negative effects? control and debuff?
what are all the effects currently out for each type?
are there sub-categories for beneficial effects too? if so what are they and what effects are part of them?
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On 2017-02-10 07:52:24Show this Author Only
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Hello Achroma!
Thank you for doing this exceptional work for us!

I have a question regarding Jiraiya Sannin-war's passive, Ero sennin.
The passive buffs jiraiya, or all of the female ninjas in the team? And if it buffs the female ninjas, is it worth considering putting in the "Empress BD team" instead of karin? And if it buffs himself, will it buff himself with 3 female at least 25%, like a BD main gets from one female ninja?

Thank you for in advance!
Alphin24
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On 2017-02-10 09:05:18Show this Author Only
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If I am lightning Main right now, should I switch my character to something else. (just saying I don't use ingots in the game.

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On 2017-02-10 09:18:22Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-02-10 01:52:55
  • so there are two different types of negative effects? control and debuff?
    what are all the effects currently out for each type?
    are there sub-categories for beneficial effects too? if so what are they and what effects are part of them?
Hello again.

There are two types of negative effects yes. You have control effects that are acupuncture, chaos, immobilize, imprison and paralysis (worth to note is that the last two in some cases count as both control and debuff)

And then you have Debuffs that are ignite, poison, tag, blindness, reduce of stats (for example jiraiya sannin wars Dark swamp) and as stated above in some cases paralysis and imprison count as both.

There is of course categories for beneficial effects aswell.

When it comes to beneficial effects they are a bit quirky, as quite alot of them count double.

However in general you can divide them into two categories that is buffs and heals.

Now in buffs you have things that up your stats (barriers, shields, stat increases, immunity etc

And in heals you have things like normal healing, debuff clears, leech, etc.
(its quite possible i missed out on a few as im writing this quite late however you should get the idea)

Hope this helps you /Achroma
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On 2017-02-10 09:20:14Show this Author Only
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  • emerald.green96 On 2017-02-10 07:52:24
  • Hello Achroma!
    Thank you for doing this exceptional work for us!

    I have a question regarding Jiraiya Sannin-war's passive, Ero sennin.
    The passive buffs jiraiya, or all of the female ninjas in the team? And if it buffs the female ninjas, is it worth considering putting in the "Empress BD team" instead of karin? And if it buffs himself, will it buff himself with 3 female at least 25%, like a BD main gets from one female ninja?

    Thank you for in advance!
    Alphin24
Hello and thank you players once again for keeping it active!

The passive of Jiraiya sannin war increases his own ninjutsu, there is a typo on the skill description that makes it quite hard to understand.

As for the actual % increase on himself im afraid im not qualified to answer as i have not done enough testing with him myself.

Hope this helps you anyways /Achroma
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On 2017-02-10 09:21:37Show this Author Only
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  • ShadowForce On 2017-02-10 09:05:18
  • If I am lightning Main right now, should I switch my character to something else. (just saying I don't use ingots in the game.

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Hello, this does not really go in this thread but i will answer you eitherway.

If you want to try a new class go ahead! You get one free change every 24 hours so i dont see why not!

However my personal tip would be making sure you have a good team to switch to before so you dont miss out on certain events due to having a weak team after switching.


Hope this helps you /Achroma
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On 2017-02-10 21:54:58Show this Author Only
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Hi,

There is less info bout element resist in ninja tools.

For example if im using Ligthing main and max reforge all 10 ninja tools to:
1. 40% water resist
2. 40% earth resist
3. 40% lightning resist
4. 40% fire resist
5. 20% wind resist

The question are, are these all element resist worth than other def stat such resistance and damage reduction? or how these element resist work? Its look so good if i can take less damage in percentage for any attack. This post was last edited by Antraks at 2017-2-10 21:56 This post was last edited by Antraks at 2017-2-10 21:56
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On 2017-02-13 19:39:22Show this Author Only
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Hi,

There is less info bout element resist in ninja tools.

For example if im using Ligthing main and max reforge all 10 ninja tools to:
1. 40% water resist
2. 40% earth resist
3. 40% lightning resist
4. 40% fire resist
5. 20% wind resist

The question are, are these all element resist worth than other def stat such resistance and damage reduction? or how these element resist work? Its look so good if i can take less damage in percentage for any attack.
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On 2017-02-14 00:08:43Show this Author Only
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  • Antraks On 2017-02-10 21:54:58
  • Hi,

    There is less info bout element resist in ninja tools.

    For example if im using Ligthing main and max reforge all 10 ninja tools to:
    1. 40% water resist
    2. 40% earth resist
    3. 40% lightning resist
    4. 40% fire resist
    5. 20% wind resist

    The question are, are these all element resist worth than other def stat such resistance and damage reduction? or how these element resist work? Its look so good if i can take less damage in percentage for any attack. This post was last edited by Antraks at 2017-2-10 21:56 This post was last edited by Antraks at 2017-2-10 21:56
Hello there and thanks for asking this question.

Personally im a bit biased on this, i consider base stats to be more valuable. However something that is extremely efficent to do is removing your weakness. For example a lightning main has 20% negative Wind resistance. Removing that so he is no longer weak to an element is something i suggest you do.

When it comes to the other resistances i would not recommend stacking all of them over just stacking Def/res. (You gotta keep in mind you lose one stat spot per element and this stat could give you a nice increase in one of the base stats)


Hope this helps you /Achroma.
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On 2017-02-16 02:29:06Show this Author Only
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What happens to unused chakra that were generated by clones or ninjas like Mabui?
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On 2017-02-16 12:43:17Show this Author Only
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sdasdasdas
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On 2017-02-17 04:24:53Show this Author Only
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Hello Achroma,
thanks as usual for your work. I've a new question for you about battle power in arena. Atm in arena i should find people with rank and BP similar to mine. My question is... what could increase/decrease BP in arena (without changing team obviously)?
As far as i know, in arena there there are no bonuses coming from magatamas, tactics, cultivation and ninja tools. Also stats coming from BA and refines contribute to an average which is shared to the whole team. But how would the other stats coming from runes, increased stars, mood and so on work?

I'm having an hard time trying it myself due to the total rng of these stats.

Keep up your awesome work.


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On 2017-02-17 21:34:02Show this Author Only
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Hello Achroma,

I have a new question as well, does status stacks? For e.g Water main cause chaos, and then upon high combo it is followed by GNW ten2 paralyze, will my chaos stays? Other status like immobile, blindness etc do they stack as well? Many thanks.
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On 2017-02-18 00:25:05Show this Author Only
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  • Clazsic On 2017-02-17 21:34:02
  • Hello Achroma,

    I have a new question as well, does status stacks? For e.g Water main cause chaos, and then upon high combo it is followed by GNW ten2 paralyze, will my chaos stays? Other status like immobile, blindness etc do they stack as well? Many thanks.
Hey,
different debuffs will stack. Proc'ing another debuff on top of one of the same type will only refre*, but won't stack (es. 2 rounds of tag over 2 rounds of tag will generate 2 rounds of tag, not 4). The only difference is chaos - immobile, as chaos will override immobile.

In the example you have quoted, the enemy ninja will suffer 1 round of chaos and 2 rounds of paralyze.
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On 2017-02-18 20:03:59Show this Author Only
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Hi,
About the new system: Grou's summon.

I want to ask something so i can make a nice strategy.

Are we can summon it everday? Coz, if we can summon it everyday, we can split our team member to join other summon day and get more reward. No need to all team rush for 2 days and then finish.
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