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On 2016-11-20 22:06:19Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Most players I see either put magatama evenly across all their ninja : all ninja with level 4s on all slots, some level 5s, or they put top magatama into the main: Fire main with level 6s Life, level 6s Attack, etc.
Both of these approaches are fundamentally wrong.
Why is that ?
Well first of all, you need to learn about your ninja in order to complement their individual strengths.

Mostly you should put Ninjutsu magatama in ninja who have high Ninjutsu growth rate, and Attack magatama in Taijutsu based ninja.So instead of everyone getting level 4s, you should combine into some level 5s for individuals who can make the most out of them.
For all the other types of magatama except the 2 mentioned above, you should do the exact opposite of the above strategy.
If a ninja has high Life growth, then there is no need to give it more Life magatama, instead put some high levels into a poor health ninja.
If a ninja has high Defense growth, then skip Defense for him.
I a ninja has high Resistance growth, then skip Resistance for him.

A few examples:

Tobi -> give him maximum Ninjutsu, maximum Defence; no Resistance needed, Life is optional.
Fire Main: -> give him maximum Defence and maximum Resistance; no Life required, no Attack required, Ninjutsu is optional.
Sage Naruto -> give him maximum Defence and Maximum Resistance; No Life required, Ninjutsu and Attack are optional.

Of course all of this applies to choosing a proper mood as well.
This post was last edited by lex***@yahoo.com at 2016-11-20 22:06 This post was last edited by lex***@yahoo.com at 2016-12-16 03:31
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On 2016-12-18 07:24:46Show this Author Only
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Oh ok so i give hinata highest lv attack magatama

sasuke with ninjutsu, life, resistence and defense

kabuto with life, defense, ninjutsu, and resistence?

Or do you have other suggestions?

My team consist of fire main, hinata 3*, sasuke 2* and kabuto 2*
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On 2016-12-18 07:29:03Show this Author Only
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offence you got it ok.
on the defensive, try to balance out the resistance towards those who have low , hinata has lower resistance, kabuto has higher.
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On 2016-12-18 09:09:38Show this Author Only
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IMO, its better just to keep magatama evened out. They really shouldn't be more than a 1 level difference between all the magatama of the same type. It would be alright to specialize magatamas if you're never going to change your team, but generally you're going to need different teams for Ninja Exam/1v1 PvP/GNW/Ranked so specializing for one specific team isn't ideal. This post was last edited by YellowPaint at 2016-12-18 10:58
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On 2016-12-18 09:34:11Show this Author Only
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I don't know tbh , they most likely don't understand enough? xd
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On 2016-12-18 11:05:29Show this Author Only
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this post makes me laugh, ur obviously not high lvl if ur saying to completely ignore giving a ninja mags in certain slots.

it takes 3 mags of 1 lvl to make 1 mag of the next lvl so instead of having 3 lvl 6 life mags u want me to have 1 lvl 7 life mag on the ninja who needs it most? and just ignore the thousands of life lost on the other ninja? thats just asking to be killed

every ninja uses all stats, even fire main needs attack for their summons damage, resistance defense and life keep ur ninjas alive.

u shouldnt prioritize attack on a fire main until your other ninjas have the same lvl mags but im not leaving my summon damage at half strength for the next 2 years while i farm max mags on all my other nin, that just makes no sense

and what happens when i change my ninjas? now i need to farm my mags up again because i have 1 extra who needs lots of attack?
also when doing survival trial and ranked battle ur ninjas get stats based on ur gears average so getting an extra 150 resist on 1 ninja(all lvl 6 resist mags) and losing 350 resist on 2 other ninjas(lvl 5 resist mags) means 550 resist for my team to split in ranked and survival, ~138 resistance for each ninja so even the ninja u wanted that extra resist for ends up with less in survival


TLDR:
this thread is a joke, new players please dont listen to the original poster
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On 2016-12-18 14:02:42Show this Author Only
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Magatamas should be done psudo even, that is to say keep the level even overall. But as USUALLY you dont have all magatama at same level, you would like to have a focus on who gets the highest, ergo psudo. It's certainly true that, for example, if you have 4 lv 5 and 16 lv 4s, it is better to have the 4 lv 5 on one ninja that c*e it best than spread it even, but you should not have 9 lv 5, or even more extreme, 2 lv 6 and 3 lv 5s.

Simply speaking, because of the significant diminishing return of higher level magatama, for example take atk magatama 3 lv 4 contributes 213 attack while 1 lv 5 contributes 109 attack. Even if you could give the lv 5 to a ninja that gains 3 damage per attack per round on average, that's 327 damage per round. But if you give a 71 to that same ninja while giving 142 to another ninja that does only 1 damage per attack per round, you'd end at 71*3+142=355 damage per round. So depsite the magatama being "wasted" on a ninja that doesn't benefit from it nearly as much, even spread provide much more overall. As it were, atk/nin contributes differently to different ninja, but there is not a single ninja that does not benefit from them AT ALL.

An interesting thing to note, if anyone follow OP's advice, then they will be stronger than other players of same power, assume all else are equal. That's great, right? Well..... The thing is, it would make a person who COULD be, for example, 30k power that is "average" for their power become a 28k, and help that person "strong" for a 28k and maybe match up to a 29k.... So in reality it backfires. But hey, what do I know, there are people who enjoy being "strong for their level" and thus refuse to level (yes, I know there are sage brackets, so I only mean those people who do it even when their server doesn't have it or at a level where it doesn't matter), so maybe some people likes being "strong for their power"? Whoever knows
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On 2016-12-19 07:11:10Show this Author Only
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It's right that doing something like this reduces your power from a theoretical 30k to a maybe 28k BUT, by putting your juice where it counts, you could go head to head to a 32k because you have the offense where it counts, not spread around.
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On 2016-12-19 13:57:53Show this Author Only
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  • lexsan On 2016-12-19 07:11:10
  • It's right that doing something like this reduces your power from a theoretical 30k to a maybe 28k BUT, by putting your juice where it counts, you could go head to head to a 32k because you have the offense where it counts, not spread around.
the extra 60 attack etc from sacrificing 3 mags for the next lvl mag will not get you a 4k BP diff lmao

Magatama prioritizing is only effective in the early stages of the game (Sub lvl 4 magatama)
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On 2016-12-19 14:21:49Show this Author Only
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thanks for the information
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On 2017-01-04 20:15:40Show this Author Only
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You are right but... i used to change my team often, so... i prefer to put effort on every slot of magatama
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On 2017-01-04 23:39:44Show this Author Only
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I will second someones post advising not to follow OPs post. Math was done - I wont go over that again. But the general idea is - It's a pain just to change the mood into the correct one after changing my main (even with the ~100 meat* I had from events). Now imagine rolling a cool new ninja that you want to use and it has Nin stat, while all of your 60% of your team was Tai. Now you are replacing a Tai Ninja with Nin - good luck farming for new magematas.
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