my point is
more populated and strong groups already gets plenty of rewards from GNW per group compared to lower tier group.
If this game starts to reward per individual, no one want to be in lower tier group.
and it ends up 1 or 2 groups will survive and they will get disadvantage b/c they wont have full matches.
and this will destroy the ecosystem of the group work.

+25% vs + 0% convoy.
You can be plundered up to 4 times and being camped is no fun.
The top 15 players want to win. Not see that big defeat sign constantly hanging over their heads.

And no, I am the strongest on my server level 73 with 32k (true power my actual lineup)
And we don't have a max group level yet.

Do people want to start at a level 1 group and spend all those coupons/ingots and then have the loss of thousands of power just to try and recruit? Oh and people don't want to wait around leveling and want to raise group skills now. They want to be able to convoy in relative safety and gather more points quicker by having a higher group level to learn the skills that much quicker.

If the top 15 players want to always win... General Patton once said "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble shooter, the fastest runner, the big-league ball players and the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. That's why Americans have never lost and will never lose a war. The very thought of losing is hateful to Americans. Battle is the most significant competition in which a man can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base."

And they stay the top 15 because the bottom 16-30 won't get the same level if not weaker resources at a lower rate.

its +25% against +20%/15% being plundered lol not 0%.

American dreams? (Giggles) We all know how America is (Open statement i'm not being judgmental)

IN THE LONG RUN having multiple group in GNW and it has to start somewhere i mean NOW so more players can receive the benefit from the system.

Not doing anything yet complaining and asking for more rewards, staying with the band wagon are what makes the players in the servers suffering loss week to months ahead.

You always on top, lvl 72 with 32k power so you never knew how to raise from the bottom.
So again i'm stating the system currently is just and requires player to put up an effort.

NO to additional rewards and casher group hoarding in 1 group, this is so unhealthy and makes the server even more unhealthy for newer players. This is a fact.

Regards.

Please don't take my statement out of context. I'll chalk this up right now as a failure on my part to properly convey my point.

The large group has +25% to the convoy runs
The smaller group has +0 to the convoy runs

The large group never gets plundered
The smaller group always gets plundered

Where do you think players will want to go?
The Rank 1 that has three active players or the Rank 7 that has thirty active players?
One can get into the GNW and the other can't.

And please don't judge me, you don't know me. I was never always on top. I actually started a week or two late in the server. People leave but for a while I was the one being hunted in Sage World. :@

Honestly the mods should close this thread. You are obviously not going to convince people here and we have two polarized viewpoints. While it would be great to have multiple groups in the GNW it won't happen.

I didn't bring up American dreams, I brought up American psyche as a collective whole and why subjecting one self to defeat after defeat with LESS rewards than the victor doesn't help. You don't ever actually bring up a way against the Top 15 forming a power bloc. If the top 15 forms a power bloc then sheer numbers from bonus rewards would be the only way to handle that. So if the 15 had 30 members and qualify for activity and the other group has 70 members and qualify but they bring 45 members to show up against the 20 and lose but the group with 45 members showing up would slowly outpace the 15 power bloc.

If you want people to break off into smaller groups one needs to be given incentive to do so and big defeat screens is not incentives.

The Top 15 having 1 group means they will always be in power; in the current system. Period. Server merging will actually help fix this problem as these large groups also have one thing going. Loyalty from the membership. So, yes to additional rewards as this would make it so people to actually show up.

First even if you get plundered you still get points.

with 25% extras per week Winning group gets 37.5 points
with no extras per week normal group gets 25 full points and 20 being plundered.

Is that a huge difference? the answer is NO.

Winning group doesn't plundered? this is wrong, me being not in the top group plundering the top group and winning all the time, same goes with my group mates.

If you are looking this at a short period of time then yes, being in the top tier group will always reap you benefit. But as i've mentioned earlier you are playing game for months maybe years, so having to break yourself from the band wagon is indeed a good move to both the player progress in the long run as well as the server healthy competition again IN THE LONG RUN.

So period, NO additional rewards is needed this is due to the human flaws always wanting to be at the top without putting any real effort. The system is there to reward you if you really put an effort.

I hope this will help new players / those who are currently going with the band wagon to breakthrough and make a difference.

P/S : If you have only 3 group participating in GNW now 5 new group that got created and participate in the qualification will be automatically qualified to the final and getting reward. How would they not able to participate in GNW? Activity rate? meh, even 10-15 ppl is enough to get activity rate required to join GNW and they will be getting packs every week instead of 1 pack per month being with the bigger group.

24 per day, 168 bonus contribution per week.
Is that a huge difference? the answer is yes especially when not being plundered. I don't know about your server but the top group never gets successfully plundered. And I mean NEVER.

That is also taking into account new players will always be successfully plundered. At least 90% of the time.
So tack on an even larger bonus per week difference.

So people won't start a new group due to the costs for one and two active players.

It doesn't matter about getting rewards as the weaker team will ALWAYS be weaker. You don't ever address the top 15 and you dance around that. What do you do when the Top 15 create a power bloc?

10-15 people? 18 x 10= 180 Sorry not good enough. 15 x 6 x 3 = 270. Sorry not good enough to qualify. This is also assuming you have active players who get all 6 points and show up each day and they don't get depressed from seeing "You lose" every single time they do a convoy and every time they try and plunder.

Go Check out Server 138 Serpent Chuck-Norris is my name :-p Yes I roundhouse kicked the 9 tails in the level 70 mission and killed it. I wanted a screen shot and wasn't fast enough. Perhaps I can enlighten you about the situation. Because obviously you don't get it. And why rewards for having more people show up would be a good thing. This post was last edited by Einherjar at 2016-11-22 16:53

Look I agree with you that players should break up. The issue is that Humanity as a whole like to form groups and community and be a part of the group that wins and survives. So in the end they will need to do server merges because asking people to break up into groups is being unrealistic. That is why more rewards are necessary. People would rather quit than to work from the ground up with such a large power difference. Better to start over and create an endless cycle of bleeding players.

Agree that's good idea
hope they do it