Adv refines have been in group shop since the beginning of the month. New refines were delayed (so they will be coming regardless of what we want), so unless CN turns them away I am pretty sure we will get them in the future. Probably when 7.0 drops. In the CN version they were going to put them in the grocery store for 200 sun scrolls. Lets just hope we never get them. Seriously though don't know why anyone would spend that much for refines with the power it gives.

Oh about the advance refine runes I realized today but I'm sure new refines are coming in a week or 2.

the problem is not much if they get added in game or not, but how easy becomes to reach level 10 refinements after they added them in game, since you are required to own a level 10 piece of gear to use them on it.

i'm not against their introduction IF AND ONLY IF getting level 10 refinements becomes 3 times as easier as is now.

For example, if they change the rewards of SWB to give 20-15-10 of those yellow runes to who is 1st-2nd-3rd and to give 15-25 advanced refinements to top10 people that are not top3, while also cutting in half or more than half the price of them in every feature they appear so far (grocery store, group shop, coupons events) then I would be perfectly fine with their in-game introduction.

I'm totally against this if this does not happen as a consequence of their introduction.

If Oasis made it easier to get to level 10 refine a lot of people who spent money to get there will be extremely mad. Personally don't think we should get new refines for a while so we can try to catch up to p2w player a bit more. Also not sure why Oasis thought this would be a good idea releasing along CN because we are still missing content/features.

most of us wouldnt be mad at all, im done with 13/20 pieces of gear for refines right now and i would be happy to see it become easier to get refines for every1. it would mean my groupmates get them and it would make more people able to compete with me again, because contrary to popular belief, curbstomping weaker people isnt fun, the reason a lot of us have high bp is because we were competing with each other then people would quit(out of boredom, real life, or because they didnt want to keep trying to compete with money) and we lost the people we were competing against but we still had the bp and no1 else was able to fight us but we cant just remove the power we got from mt myoboku and * so we get bored and stop spending/quit to hope someday others will catch up which makes them try to find ways to get us to spend again which just exacerbates the problem because some of these people became addicted to spending on the new shiny because it used to bring them joy to get the new thing to use against competitors and they want the feeling to come back not realizing it will be very fleeting with no1 to use the shiny new thing against, since it will feel the same as before they bought the shiny new thing.

i didn't see any people complaining about cave keys in grocery store or about how easier is now to get level 9 charms in comparison with when they appeared.

those feature give the same if not more secondary stats than refinements.

hello !

what i believe here lv 11,12,13 refine and new version is to stop people from freezing their level that ruin new players to come or understand the nature of game. freeze level players make thing out of control so this mean Ranking reward at SWB will be not changed. new players will think :

1, why these people with lower lv have so much power than them or have better quality ninja than them?

2, why they play a game that make him lose to lower lv than him ?

3, how how how why why why wtf ?

i myself have a question too, why people start the same of me fall behind so far and wait bullying less experience players?how many sub-accounts they holding? how long did he make this much power only that level ?

If they really wanted to discourage level freezing a way should be to place advanced refinements in world boss battle in the place of magatamas and to change the rewards of top3 placements in swb (like giving them the same runes as 4th-8th place and some other reward in the place of the ss, like 10 advanced threads or 10 ability scrolls or, since is sage, 1000 unbound runes).

Adding level 11-13 runes doesn't discourage level freezing because you still need those level7-10 refinements for positions 2-3-4.

As soon as you are able to unlock all the important features, leveling becomes meaningless. To use level to gauge how "strong" an opponent is, is a real crappy way in *yzing them.

But this os true only because people freeze and people freeze because they are induced in doing it thinking it brings them an advantage.

Don't forget, this kind of play style that level freezers use isn't original or unique, there are games that let players do the same exact thing. I mean, look when Level 1 *s in WoW, were able to kill a much higher level opponent.

Why have they updated shop to 1 advanced rune instead of 5...

cuz its oasis, the most generous company to us

We had 5 advanced refine runes in group shop, when Oasis planned to give us lv11+ refine runes. When that plan was delayed, we got 1 advanced rune. Thus, even higher leveled refine runes are delayed even further. Whoever planned this must be a genius... Having 5 advenced refine runes might get people closer to lv 10 refinements and thefore willing to accept lv11+ refine runes, but whoever wants to think?

dont mind the 11+ lvls. but I DO FKING MIND IF TEHY REMOVE THE QURWA EFFECT.