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Hello guys, I just want to ask one thing mostly to Oasis..as per title said,, Why does poison tai still applied on minato jonin and masked man even both of them alrdy dodge when get hit by that? I wonder how can both of the ninja still got hit by the poison even they alrdy dodge that.. What is the function of their skill that can dodge if still got hit with poison even they dodge?

I hope Oasis please take note about this and do some update on both of that ninja. Thank you.

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On 2017-10-17 07:09:08Show this Author Only
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i think someone also make thread bout this u should check on that thread





This post was last edited by Kuro하돌 on 2017-10-17 10:00:32.
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On 2017-10-17 09:41:06Show this Author Only
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2017-10-17 07:09:08
  • i think someone also make thread bout this u should check on that thread


umm yes i think i've seen before this..but then this case still got nothing happened and nor update or chnge..

can you show me the links where they already answer and solve this problem?

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On 2017-10-17 09:58:43Show this Author Only
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  • PewPakaPew On 2017-10-17 09:41:06
  • umm yes i think i've seen before this..but then this case still got nothing happened and nor update or chnge..

    can you show me the links where they already answer and solve this problem?

Here . i dont know this will help you or not https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-24934-1.html





This post was last edited by Kuro하돌 on 2017-10-17 10:00:14.
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Hi! From my understanding, how "Poison Tai" works for water main is that it gets applied regardless of if the "Taijutsu damage" attack hits or not. It specifically states, "Ninjas from your lineup which attack using Taijutsu damage will cause at the same time Poisoning." I believe there is no criteria besides the need for the attack to be Taijutsu, regardless if you dodge or not.


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On 2017-10-17 11:04:25Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2017-10-17 10:02:13
  • Hi! From my understanding, how "Poison Tai" works for water main is that it gets applied regardless of if the "Taijutsu damage" attack hits or not. It specifically states, "Ninjas from your lineup which attack using Taijutsu damage will cause at the same time Poisoning." I believe there is no criteria besides the need for the attack to be Taijutsu, regardless if you dodge or not.


    ~Jib

No skill in the game says it needs to hit to give its effect. Fire mains 4th standard attack says "Attacks 4 of the opponent's units and has a fixed chance of causing ignition.", by what you said that attack from fire mains should have the ability to ignite enemies when they dodge as well right? But it never will. The water main passive is the only one which applies the effect regardless of whether or not the attack itself hits in the entire game. If there were other effects that applied when the attack was dodged then I could understand it happening here, but nothing else does.

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On 2017-10-17 17:43:05Show this Author Only
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thank you kuro for da links :)

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On 2017-10-17 17:48:41Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-10-17 11:04:25
  • No skill in the game says it needs to hit to give its effect. Fire mains 4th standard attack says "Attacks 4 of the opponent's units and has a fixed chance of causing ignition.", by what you said that attack from fire mains should have the ability to ignite enemies when they dodge as well right? But it never will. The water main passive is the only one which applies the effect regardless of whether or not the attack itself hits in the entire game. If there were other effects that applied when the attack was dodged then I could understand it happening here, but nothing else does.

Yep!! I really agreed with you about this one shadoblaze..the description about fire main skill is having a fixed chnce to ignite, but why then it doesnt ignite even it said there a fixed chance..not only fire actually, got some other skills also who said having a fixed chance but then it not applied at all..and the problem is, why only azure fang poison tai will hit everyone wthout even touch? i mean its not fair to other ninja also who having a skill with a dscription like that..and so, what for people bought minato jonin and masked man which having their skill to dodge but then the passive skill is useless? Its useless on people who bought them n try to get them but both of them still same like other ninja and no different at all..I hope they will take note about this and do some update.

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On 2017-10-17 18:41:31Show this Author Only
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Jonin minato and masked man have two kinds of evasions, the first is standard attack evasion, the second is mystery evasion. While standard attack evasion wholly avoid the standard attack and so also the poison application of poison tai (and infact when they are hit by a standard attack they avoided no poison gets applied), mystery evasion do not work in the same way and while it avoids the damage itself, does not instead avoid any other secondary effects linked to the mystery.

The effects that apply poison tai on minato and masked man are ONLY avoided mysteries with a taijutsu component in them and they do so because is meant to be so, is not a bug.

Beware that this does not work at all only for poison tai but, for example, works also for Midnight Blade 4th mystery that even if is avoided still apply tag on minato and masked man (situation you will begin to experience a ton as soon as cloud blitz teams becomes more common). The reason why the things work so is pretty simple and is the fact that while makes sense that you can avoid wholly one standard attack just because there are at least 4 per round that go off, does not make sense that those ninjas wholly avoid also secondary effects of mysteries because, otherwise, they would be too strong if are not in front row.

p.s.: Yes, i get that could not make much sense in a strictier way to intend evasion but i never seen one of you masked m(an u)sers that came here asking: 'why my masked man that got immobilized by his mystery effect reflected is able to evade a standard attack or mystery even if is immobilized? This doesn't make sense!'





This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ on 2017-10-17 18:48:52.
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On 2017-10-29 04:36:56Show this Author Only
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because poison tai is that Op.

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On 2017-10-29 13:05:33Show this Author Only
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  • サムイ On 2017-10-29 04:36:56
  • because poison tai is that Op.

Lol water main poison tai should be more op if it will be able effect the whole team but i dont recommend this XD

(Kinda like lighting main passive anbu tactic)


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On 2017-11-03 10:31:50Show this Author Only
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  • S36-Sui On 2017-10-29 13:05:33
  • Lol water main poison tai should be more op if it will be able effect the whole team but i dont recommend this XD

    (Kinda like lighting main passive anbu tactic)


it effects the entire lineup, thats bad enough, we dont need 1 water main in gnw giving a lightning main and fire main poison tai while they give heals out

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On 2017-11-03 10:57:46Show this Author Only
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  • S36-Sui On 2017-10-29 13:05:33
  • Lol water main poison tai should be more op if it will be able effect the whole team but i dont recommend this XD

    (Kinda like lighting main passive anbu tactic)


if they implement that you will see a bunch of fire main teams with killer bee, susano'o itachi, utakata, or roshi ( any combination of these) flooded in every server lol

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On 2017-11-03 17:13:29Show this Author Only
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Ok guys see it in real life....u cant dogde poison gas cause it still gonna be in the area...so that is why..i mean I know games arent that logic but still...

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On 2017-11-03 18:52:55Show this Author Only
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If something should be changed to affect the whole field among azure fang passives that thing should be healing tips. Poison tai would be too op otherwise.

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