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will anything be done about these cause to be honest , its getting a little out of control , its not fun to play as or play against , games like this are ment to be stratigic and theres none of that with these team , and its not interactive at all

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On 2017-08-25 14:41:16Show this Author Only
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Then find a counter.

Here's a link that might help

https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-22926-1.html


Jib Edit: Please be respectful to other players. I am glad you are helping them out, but we all get frustrated sometimes.




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That is a strategy. The strategy is to live as long as they can through heals and damage the opponent from poison/iginite/etc. I've read somewhere in the forums that this is countered by heavy nukes. I believe the ninjas involved were fire main, onoki, pain shurado and konan.





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On 2017-08-26 03:10:25Show this Author Only
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when you get roshi they will be easier

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On 2017-08-26 05:38:23Show this Author Only
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Nope there's nothing that can overpower those teams nor make them easier to deal with right now, they are utterly broken and completely out of control. It's like earth shield meta all over again, just endless sustain with no weaknesses to exploit or ways to counterplay other than the "surrender" *on bottom right corner. The 40% increased healing and aoe poison passives synergy is too much to deal with, plus to top it all off water as character outshines everyone else in terms of stats growth by a large margin. I mean if you think mabui, 1010, mei teams got you a free pass against people with 10k over you then this team will easily come on top with full hp in a 20k difference 1v1s all you need is a mei and a sailor = gg you won Naruto Online.





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On 2017-08-26 05:42:50Show this Author Only
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Hi! There are multiple ways to beat a double or triple healer team. One is to use a blitz team that does heavy damage early in battle, while another is to use a team that creates a lot of ignite, control, or immobile debuffs. Many counter guides available on the forum and the internet.


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I just beat this triple healer team in arena last night facing a 70k Six Paths Sennin in Training Battle (I know my opponent was 70k+ coz he/she was wearing the samurai outfit). I used the team I heard that I posted above. Konan, Shurado, Fire main, Onoki. Hokage Tsunade was already dead after round 1 from Shurado mystery+ignite. Round 3 killed Water main. Round 6 Roshi and Sailor Sakura died at the same time. Or maybe I was just lucky that time coz Shurado mystery crit Hokage Tsunade at round 1 + Fire main chase hit Water main and Sailor Sakura igniting them + Sailor Sakura was also immobilized by Fire main's mystery so no AOE damage on my team.





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  • SoldMom4Ingots On 2017-08-26 05:38:23
  • Nope there's nothing that can overpower those teams nor make them easier to deal with right now, they are utterly broken and completely out of control. It's like earth shield meta all over again, just endless sustain with no weaknesses to exploit or ways to counterplay other than the "surrender" *on bottom right corner. The 40% increased healing and aoe poison passives synergy is too much to deal with, plus to top it all off water as character outshines everyone else in terms of stats growth by a large margin. I mean if you think mabui, 1010, mei teams got you a free pass against people with 10k over you then this team will easily come on top with full hp in a 20k difference 1v1s all you need is a mei and a sailor = gg you won Naruto Online.


lol when they combo roshi everything gets ignited unless the opponent has hokage tsunade in 3 healer which could help remove debuffs, if the enemy uses kabuto sailor and water main then it will be a lot easier since kabuto does not receive double healing anymore, I play 3 healer sometimes so I know most of it's weakness, one is roshi and the other is gakido(if they use poison).

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  • icebuken On 2017-08-26 09:22:55
  • I just beat this triple healer team in arena last night facing a 70k Six Paths Sennin in Training Battle (I know my opponent was 70k+ coz he/she was wearing the samurai outfit). I used the team I heard that I posted above. Konan, Shurado, Fire main, Onoki. Hokage Tsunade was already dead after round 1 from Shurado mystery+ignite. Round 3 killed Water main. Round 6 Roshi and Sailor Sakura died at the same time. Or maybe I was just lucky that time coz Shurado mystery crit Hokage Tsunade at round 1 + Fire main chase hit Water main and Sailor Sakura igniting them + Sailor Sakura was also immobilized by Fire main's mystery so no AOE damage on my team.


Real battles is big diffirence than in trainning battles because your ninjas can get 18-20k + HP.Get atleast 70k BP you can see power of 2-3 healer+ han/roshi

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On 2017-08-26 16:02:31Show this Author Only
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Only way for you to pull through is to have insane control like obito + sus itachi etc. and even then you're still in a huge disadvantage and you're likely to lose the fight. Pure damage wont work, debuffs wont work none of this * is ever going to work idk what game are the guys above me playing but when you face a sailor water, hokage tsunade team no matter what you have if you're not running the same or a similar team YOU. ARE. GOING. TO. LOSE.





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  • Linhvn On 2017-08-26 15:58:54
  • Real battles is big diffirence than in trainning battles because your ninjas can get 18-20k + HP.Get atleast 70k BP you can see power of 2-3 healer+ han/roshi

Yes that is true but the point of my post is that, Immortal teams aren't really immortal.

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  • icebuken On 2017-08-26 16:02:33
  • Yes that is true but the point of my post is that, Immortal teams aren't really immortal.

Im using han mei sailor water.i dont need immortal team.5k poison at round 2.the only way to beat is you have get higher bp and speed.

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  • Jiburiru On 2017-08-26 05:42:50
  • Hi! There are multiple ways to beat a double or triple healer team. One is to use a blitz team that does heavy damage early in battle, while another is to use a team that creates a lot of ignite, control, or immobile debuffs. Many counter guides available on the forum and the internet.


    ~Jib

Blitz team against han, sailor sakura, af + a 4th supporting character (roshi, mei, yagura) gets owned even with 30k more power.

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On 2017-08-27 03:13:28Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2017-08-26 05:42:50
  • Hi! There are multiple ways to beat a double or triple healer team. One is to use a blitz team that does heavy damage early in battle, while another is to use a team that creates a lot of ignite, control, or immobile debuffs. Many counter guides available on the forum and the internet.


    ~Jib

please tell me how to blitz someone with 13k resistance 9k def and 25k health when they sit behind a roshi with 22k health and 8k resistance/defense?


even lightning main critting 4 times only does about 16k damage against the roshi, then roshi heals 2k so hes at 10k hp, then lets say ur lucky and u kill the roshi turn 1 with ur combo and all ur damage, ur now out of damage for turn 2, and u killed his squishy ninja plus u have no hard cc to stop his 2 aoe heals, so after ur next combo gets triggered he heals to full and uve wasted everything round 2 just to burn a heal mystery, round 3 ur down root at least so now he starts using poison tai on u as well so the countdown begins until ur dead since poison ticks about 1500 with 1 stack from sakura.


even using a combo round 3 ur not going to do more than burn the 2nd heal myst but that hokage tsunade is probably going to cc something anyway so u cant actualy use a full combo if u even get ur myst off in the first place. round 4 u c*e ur full combo again but ur barrier buff is now gone so u lose another 40% damage and ur darui hits 1 time less so ur not able to deal as much damage as u did turn 1 and u cant kill that water main., and now that u cant kill the water main or sakura u lose to poison stacks ticking away for 8k, which there is no way to outheal as blitz.




now for that idea of control, tell me how can it be done without susano itachi? masked man, hokage tsunade, wind main and lets say mei(insert any mystery with a combo start that u c*e to trigger masked man chase, mei just has aoe and ignite for better damage), u cc 1 at the end of round 1 with masked man, then u can cc another at the start of round 2 with tsunade and then u reset so u can masked man the third healer, next round u can re cc 2 people with tsunade and mei if your wind main has the chakra regen passive. but then the 3rd healer unlocks them all and they go back to full and u lose once they start chaosing tsunade and poison gets to kill u.


lets say its a 2 heal team not 3, lets use the numbers from the person i mentioned already(hes on s2 if u want to come and check that im not exagerating). so u masked man and tsunade for healers to be ccd round 2 just like b4 and standards do there damage, tsunade hits for 4k combo hits for another ~3k, so the water main is at 18k, round 3 mei starts combo to cc wm doing lets say another 6k total so wm down to 12k u reset and sakura gets stunned by masked man, ignite ticks so wm at 10k, mei goes again thanks to reset and tsunade hits her as well but because barrier is gone ur down damage, so now u hit 40% less and can only do about 8k and sakura didnt get stunned so wm lives with 2k sakura cleanses everything, water main uses myst to heal for 4k, wm standards for another 3k, sakura standard for another 2k, so now water main is at 11k and the other 3 are at full, while all of your mysteries are on cd. next turn u can reset them all, but its not enough to kill that water main even if u go all out again so sakura will cleanse her and she will cleanse herself as well, then next turn on she heals while u can do anything more than annoy her.



so the only way to beat 2 healer cancer team is with susano itachi, an ultra rare ninja that costs $1200 if u just buy his frags from events(800 per frag from shinobi feast * 80 frags) and even then u need to be able to chain cc every round which either means itachi with another cc and wind main, or itachi with 2 other people who can cc, then u go to 3 healer teams, then u need wind main with itachi and another cc, then if they do 3 heas and a cleanse(like gakido) u need every nija on ur team to cc plus wind main to reset those cc and then u have to be strong enough to kill them b4 they get a chance to cleanse, but if they r faster than u there is no way for u to win.



the damage numbers are based off of what i do with 115k power against actual people on server 2, my fire main has 14k attack, 17k ninjutsu, my susano itachi has 17k attack 12k ninjutsu, my mei has 12.5k attack 15k ninjutsu, hokage tsunade has 13.5k attack 12.8k ninjutsu.

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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-08-27 03:13:28
  • please tell me how to blitz someone with 13k resistance 9k def and 25k health when they sit behind a roshi with 22k health and 8k resistance/defense?


    even lightning main critting 4 times only does about 16k damage against the roshi, then roshi heals 2k so hes at 10k hp, then lets say ur lucky and u kill the roshi turn 1 with ur combo and all ur damage, ur now out of damage for turn 2, and u killed his squishy ninja plus u have no hard cc to stop his 2 aoe heals, so after ur next combo gets triggered he heals to full and uve wasted everything round 2 just to burn a heal mystery, round 3 ur down root at least so now he starts using poison tai on u as well so the countdown begins until ur dead since poison ticks about 1500 with 1 stack from sakura.


    even using a combo round 3 ur not going to do more than burn the 2nd heal myst but that hokage tsunade is probably going to cc something anyway so u cant actualy use a full combo if u even get ur myst off in the first place. round 4 u c*e ur full combo again but ur barrier buff is now gone so u lose another 40% damage and ur darui hits 1 time less so ur not able to deal as much damage as u did turn 1 and u cant kill that water main., and now that u cant kill the water main or sakura u lose to poison stacks ticking away for 8k, which there is no way to outheal as blitz.




    now for that idea of control, tell me how can it be done without susano itachi? masked man, hokage tsunade, wind main and lets say mei(insert any mystery with a combo start that u c*e to trigger masked man chase, mei just has aoe and ignite for better damage), u cc 1 at the end of round 1 with masked man, then u can cc another at the start of round 2 with tsunade and then u reset so u can masked man the third healer, next round u can re cc 2 people with tsunade and mei if your wind main has the chakra regen passive. but then the 3rd healer unlocks them all and they go back to full and u lose once they start chaosing tsunade and poison gets to kill u.


    lets say its a 2 heal team not 3, lets use the numbers from the person i mentioned already(hes on s2 if u want to come and check that im not exagerating). so u masked man and tsunade for healers to be ccd round 2 just like b4 and standards do there damage, tsunade hits for 4k combo hits for another ~3k, so the water main is at 18k, round 3 mei starts combo to cc wm doing lets say another 6k total so wm down to 12k u reset and sakura gets stunned by masked man, ignite ticks so wm at 10k, mei goes again thanks to reset and tsunade hits her as well but because barrier is gone ur down damage, so now u hit 40% less and can only do about 8k and sakura didnt get stunned so wm lives with 2k sakura cleanses everything, water main uses myst to heal for 4k, wm standards for another 3k, sakura standard for another 2k, so now water main is at 11k and the other 3 are at full, while all of your mysteries are on cd. next turn u can reset them all, but its not enough to kill that water main even if u go all out again so sakura will cleanse her and she will cleanse herself as well, then next turn on she heals while u can do anything more than annoy her.



    so the only way to beat 2 healer cancer team is with susano itachi, an ultra rare ninja that costs $1200 if u just buy his frags from events(800 per frag from shinobi feast * 80 frags) and even then u need to be able to chain cc every round which either means itachi with another cc and wind main, or itachi with 2 other people who can cc, then u go to 3 healer teams, then u need wind main with itachi and another cc, then if they do 3 heas and a cleanse(like gakido) u need every nija on ur team to cc plus wind main to reset those cc and then u have to be strong enough to kill them b4 they get a chance to cleanse, but if they r faster than u there is no way for u to win.



    the damage numbers are based off of what i do with 115k power against actual people on server 2, my fire main has 14k attack, 17k ninjutsu, my susano itachi has 17k attack 12k ninjutsu, my mei has 12.5k attack 15k ninjutsu, hokage tsunade has 13.5k attack 12.8k ninjutsu.

if blitz don't work try others maybe mirror his team, if your tactic is blitz then you will struggle with healer team, as a 2 healer team user I can beat 15 k higher BP, 20k if lucky as long as it is blitz. I'm talking about 55k to 70k so the difference is really big but I don't know how big a difference it makes in 100k or higher





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  • The Almighty On 2017-08-27 03:24:19
  • if blitz don't work try others maybe mirror his team, if your tactic is blitz then you will struggle with healer team, as a 2 healer team user I can beat 15 k higher BP, 20k if lucky as long as it is blitz. I'm talking about 55k to 70k so the difference is really big but I don't know how big a difference it makes in 100k or higher


thats kinda the point, nothing realy works besides another healer team. the game shouldnt force everyone to play the same team to win even when i have a 15%+ power advantage over the other person. yes i can mirror the double heal team and win because round 10 i can nuke him harder than he nukes me, but whats the point of the other 9 rounds if only round 10 matters? whats the point of having 10 rounds? they should just give us 100 chakra and no battlefield cd and say whoever can nukes harder wins, that would be more fun than waiting 9 rounds to do the same thing.

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  • icebuken On 2017-08-26 09:22:55
  • I just beat this triple healer team in arena last night facing a 70k Six Paths Sennin in Training Battle (I know my opponent was 70k+ coz he/she was wearing the samurai outfit). I used the team I heard that I posted above. Konan, Shurado, Fire main, Onoki. Hokage Tsunade was already dead after round 1 from Shurado mystery+ignite. Round 3 killed Water main. Round 6 Roshi and Sailor Sakura died at the same time. Or maybe I was just lucky that time coz Shurado mystery crit Hokage Tsunade at round 1 + Fire main chase hit Water main and Sailor Sakura igniting them + Sailor Sakura was also immobilized by Fire main's mystery so no AOE damage on my team.


having the Samurai outfit doesn't automatically mean they are 70K+. In my server there are many people with 60K who have the outfit.


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  • Trilani On 2017-08-27 04:50:23
  • having the Samurai outfit doesn't automatically mean they are 70K+. In my server there are many people with 60K who have the outfit.


Nope, samurai costume only eligible for player who already reach 70k threshold. They can claim it and change back to whatever team they like. But statistically, they reach 70k

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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-08-27 03:50:49
  • thats kinda the point, nothing realy works besides another healer team. the game shouldnt force everyone to play the same team to win even when i have a 15%+ power advantage over the other person. yes i can mirror the double heal team and win because round 10 i can nuke him harder than he nukes me, but whats the point of the other 9 rounds if only round 10 matters? whats the point of having 10 rounds? they should just give us 100 chakra and no battlefield cd and say whoever can nukes harder wins, that would be more fun than waiting 9 rounds to do the same thing.

the 9 rounds are called torture for those who want fast wins but a pleasure to healer users who have a lot of patience, we enjoy seeing opponents struggle

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On 2017-08-27 10:38:35Show this Author Only
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I take out 4 tails when I see those teams. Free kill even if they are 30k pow higher. But for your regular f2p player.. there is just no way to kill those teams in a timely manner. Yes you can kill it with roshi.. but it still takes forever.




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