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On 2017-08-26 03:10:25Show All Posts
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when you get roshi they will be easier

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On 2017-08-26 14:26:34Show All Posts
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  • SoldMom4Ingots On 2017-08-26 05:38:23
  • Nope there's nothing that can overpower those teams nor make them easier to deal with right now, they are utterly broken and completely out of control. It's like earth shield meta all over again, just endless sustain with no weaknesses to exploit or ways to counterplay other than the "surrender" *on bottom right corner. The 40% increased healing and aoe poison passives synergy is too much to deal with, plus to top it all off water as character outshines everyone else in terms of stats growth by a large margin. I mean if you think mabui, 1010, mei teams got you a free pass against people with 10k over you then this team will easily come on top with full hp in a 20k difference 1v1s all you need is a mei and a sailor = gg you won Naruto Online.


lol when they combo roshi everything gets ignited unless the opponent has hokage tsunade in 3 healer which could help remove debuffs, if the enemy uses kabuto sailor and water main then it will be a lot easier since kabuto does not receive double healing anymore, I play 3 healer sometimes so I know most of it's weakness, one is roshi and the other is gakido(if they use poison).

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On 2017-08-27 03:24:19Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-08-27 03:13:28
  • please tell me how to blitz someone with 13k resistance 9k def and 25k health when they sit behind a roshi with 22k health and 8k resistance/defense?


    even lightning main critting 4 times only does about 16k damage against the roshi, then roshi heals 2k so hes at 10k hp, then lets say ur lucky and u kill the roshi turn 1 with ur combo and all ur damage, ur now out of damage for turn 2, and u killed his squishy ninja plus u have no hard cc to stop his 2 aoe heals, so after ur next combo gets triggered he heals to full and uve wasted everything round 2 just to burn a heal mystery, round 3 ur down root at least so now he starts using poison tai on u as well so the countdown begins until ur dead since poison ticks about 1500 with 1 stack from sakura.


    even using a combo round 3 ur not going to do more than burn the 2nd heal myst but that hokage tsunade is probably going to cc something anyway so u cant actualy use a full combo if u even get ur myst off in the first place. round 4 u c*e ur full combo again but ur barrier buff is now gone so u lose another 40% damage and ur darui hits 1 time less so ur not able to deal as much damage as u did turn 1 and u cant kill that water main., and now that u cant kill the water main or sakura u lose to poison stacks ticking away for 8k, which there is no way to outheal as blitz.




    now for that idea of control, tell me how can it be done without susano itachi? masked man, hokage tsunade, wind main and lets say mei(insert any mystery with a combo start that u c*e to trigger masked man chase, mei just has aoe and ignite for better damage), u cc 1 at the end of round 1 with masked man, then u can cc another at the start of round 2 with tsunade and then u reset so u can masked man the third healer, next round u can re cc 2 people with tsunade and mei if your wind main has the chakra regen passive. but then the 3rd healer unlocks them all and they go back to full and u lose once they start chaosing tsunade and poison gets to kill u.


    lets say its a 2 heal team not 3, lets use the numbers from the person i mentioned already(hes on s2 if u want to come and check that im not exagerating). so u masked man and tsunade for healers to be ccd round 2 just like b4 and standards do there damage, tsunade hits for 4k combo hits for another ~3k, so the water main is at 18k, round 3 mei starts combo to cc wm doing lets say another 6k total so wm down to 12k u reset and sakura gets stunned by masked man, ignite ticks so wm at 10k, mei goes again thanks to reset and tsunade hits her as well but because barrier is gone ur down damage, so now u hit 40% less and can only do about 8k and sakura didnt get stunned so wm lives with 2k sakura cleanses everything, water main uses myst to heal for 4k, wm standards for another 3k, sakura standard for another 2k, so now water main is at 11k and the other 3 are at full, while all of your mysteries are on cd. next turn u can reset them all, but its not enough to kill that water main even if u go all out again so sakura will cleanse her and she will cleanse herself as well, then next turn on she heals while u can do anything more than annoy her.



    so the only way to beat 2 healer cancer team is with susano itachi, an ultra rare ninja that costs $1200 if u just buy his frags from events(800 per frag from shinobi feast * 80 frags) and even then u need to be able to chain cc every round which either means itachi with another cc and wind main, or itachi with 2 other people who can cc, then u go to 3 healer teams, then u need wind main with itachi and another cc, then if they do 3 heas and a cleanse(like gakido) u need every nija on ur team to cc plus wind main to reset those cc and then u have to be strong enough to kill them b4 they get a chance to cleanse, but if they r faster than u there is no way for u to win.



    the damage numbers are based off of what i do with 115k power against actual people on server 2, my fire main has 14k attack, 17k ninjutsu, my susano itachi has 17k attack 12k ninjutsu, my mei has 12.5k attack 15k ninjutsu, hokage tsunade has 13.5k attack 12.8k ninjutsu.

if blitz don't work try others maybe mirror his team, if your tactic is blitz then you will struggle with healer team, as a 2 healer team user I can beat 15 k higher BP, 20k if lucky as long as it is blitz. I'm talking about 55k to 70k so the difference is really big but I don't know how big a difference it makes in 100k or higher





This post was last edited by The Almighty on 2017-08-27 03:27:07.
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On 2017-08-27 09:40:52Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-08-27 03:50:49
  • thats kinda the point, nothing realy works besides another healer team. the game shouldnt force everyone to play the same team to win even when i have a 15%+ power advantage over the other person. yes i can mirror the double heal team and win because round 10 i can nuke him harder than he nukes me, but whats the point of the other 9 rounds if only round 10 matters? whats the point of having 10 rounds? they should just give us 100 chakra and no battlefield cd and say whoever can nukes harder wins, that would be more fun than waiting 9 rounds to do the same thing.

the 9 rounds are called torture for those who want fast wins but a pleasure to healer users who have a lot of patience, we enjoy seeing opponents struggle

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On 2017-08-28 16:58:35Show All Posts
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lol want to nerf cancer water but when someone said to nerf blitz all of you complained, we just found a counter for you so you are crying like a baby because your blitz can't win anymore

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On 2017-08-29 00:39:39Show All Posts
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  • Nyte On 2017-08-28 21:22:13
  • Excuse me Who is the 'We' here. all you guys did was jump on the bandwagon from kirra's cancer team, then when roshi came out and u guys saw that he was a good tank u just put him in your lineup, there was no 'we'. before Kirra all the water mains ever used was Mabu mei GNW tenten teams, or the chojuro Ao Mei meta. thre was no We. you guys just took it cuz it looked cool that it could beat a higher Bp blitz team.

lol I never used a single seal scroll on any jinchu treasure, I'm using basic ninjas against new teams

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On 2017-08-29 00:42:03Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-08-28 23:40:14
  • i dont run blitz, i've never been lightning on the na servers either. i didnt complain about lightning because it was actualy balanced and i knew with time it was going to get weaker, even back in 1.0 lightning blitz was a thing, the easy counter was wind main with iruka to shield clones and eat the blitz, hell naruto with iruka used to work(probably still does considering 4k+ iruka shields). now there is an easier counter to blitz teams, its called han, and he works well vs more than just blitz because of his dodge and super armor hes *l around excellent tank in any scenario. hell, even without han lightning blitz cant beat me since i win barrier and run tsunade so i can survive and start cc locking them the next round


    water cancer isnt a counter to lightning blitz, its a counter to EVERYTHING. if it just countered lightning blitz i would say it was fine, i wouldnt care, but it counters everything besides other water cancer teams. im the highest power on s2, but healers heal more than i can hit for when i crit with a mystery, crits are chance heals are static.


    my current team tries to control heal teams, but vs 3 healers there isnt enough control to go around for long enough to kill things even with my susano itachi and hokage tsunade. if they run 3 heals and a gakido then there is no way to out control them so u have to just nuke them to death(which requires a huge power advantage) or play another cancer team to out survive them, which if u have to play a copy of a team to counter that team its not balanced its op.


    all of you who cried over lightning saying it was op just couldnt figure out a team we used back in 1.0 to survive it, as fire b4 tobi became the norm i used naruto and iruka to survive lightning blitz teams just like every1 else, in 2.0 i didnt need them once i won the barrier, because our health pools have increased so much that blitz has a hard time killing anything of mine turn 1 without that extra 40% damage. when i lost the barrier i had a manual barrier team i used to reduce lightning blitz damage.


    there were many counters to lightning blitz that werent op. all of u people playing water cancer r just crying that you cant win without having something op to use and ur being sure to abuse it as much as u can b4 its nerfed, which if u look at the cn version water was nerfed in a few ways, so congratz u c*e an op team, when it gets nerfed ill be sure to look for all of u in swb and any other cross server event and we can see how good u realy are :)

well my water cancer team counters most teams specially lightning, as I use it to hunt lightning blitz in space time and SWB. I still win against other teams when using lightning or wind main, my lightning is not blitz and my wind is pure nuke, I know how to use mains properly. I don't rely on healer all the time, I know how to counter my own teams so I can adapt easily when I face similar teams





This post was last edited by The Almighty on 2017-08-29 00:47:53.
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On 2017-08-29 01:13:03Show All Posts
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  • TheFlorentino On 2017-08-29 00:53:00
  • i face a 3 heal team in the battlefield, i got a blitzteam, i got his ass... so u can win a 3 heal team with a blitzteam

if you kill the main tank in 3 healer team in round 1 you will have at least 90% cance winning

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On 2017-08-29 23:40:50Show All Posts
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whatever

who wants popcorn 10 ingots each

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On 2017-08-30 00:10:30Show All Posts
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  • luvyahui@yahoo. On 2017-08-29 23:59:51
  • Throw in the soda pls XD

additional 5 ingots sir

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