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CensorIsReal Registered: 2017-07-24 Topics: 21 Posts: 338 On 2017-07-07 17:09:57 ｜ Show this Author Only ｜ Descending Order 1＃ Go To So a moderator just closed our last thread without any explanation so I'll just create another thread to continue the discussion. Original post: http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/en/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21353&extra=page%3D1&page=4 Last post By Dragonfire14 You know that there is an issue when players are deliberately locking themselves out of content (leveling) in order to do better in Sage. I know players that don't collect their daily missions, do ninetails, wanted missions and even some that don't even collect their weekly missions. Yes I see the strategy of staying lower level in order to be paired up with lower power people, but this is an issue. Basing it on BP instead of level would not only make it more fair for players, but also fix the issue of players cheesing the bracket placements. Reply

CensorIsReal

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On 2017-07-07 17:24:57 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Zelgadis~

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On 2017-07-07 17:58:56 ｜ Show this Author Only

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If you sort sage by power you have a different kind of issue in comparison with now and is that you can't hope at all to get a qucik fight. Every single fight would last 4-5 minutes and if you lose one you are more or less doomed, so, sorting by power wouldn't change much the actual outcome of swb, but, indeed, it would be somehow fairer, even if the difference between 1st, 2nd and 3rd place would be entirely on the luck a player would have in be able to beat one enemy with an high winning streak. The current problems of swb are at least two. The first is the lack of rewards in comparison with the number of players, the second is the way points are given out after one single match.
Imho if they give rewards to top10 and if the higher your winning streak the LOWER your morale becomes would be a way better way to solve the actual situation. Why if i lose 4 times i have to be kicked out? How can i make up for my matching unluck? Overall if the random whale can camp over me? Is if i win 4 times that i should be kicked out or frozen for 5-10 minutes! Is if i win that i should be sent to my camp and resurrect, being unable to do anything for 20 seconds! The problem is this one. I should be discouraged in getting a very early winning streak if i am one of the strongest in the field. Right now I'm not. I just can stay there on auto and get 20-25k points and be first without moving an inch. This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-7-7 18:00 This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-7-7 18:02

PraiseLuka

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On 2017-07-07 19:16:18 ｜ Show this Author Only

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The only fight that takes 4-5 min in a 1v1 that I know of are either earth and/or water main fights where both side use a grindy team and it actually take the full 10 rounds or close to it. Most fight doesn't last nearly that long even when evenly matched in terms of power. To be honest, I'm not even sure if a full 10 round fight last quite that long, I'd guess it's more like 3 minutes. But as I've never used a grindy team myself, such long 1v1 fight is rare for me so I can't be sure.

I think it might in fact be interesting in terms of tactical choice player makes. Do they use a slower team that will more likely get them a win (water immortal band wagons) or perhaps a faster team that is not as reliable but gets more fights?

Granted, blitz right now is still quite effective. Ideally, this would be best if blitz aren't as reliable so that a choice between reliability and more fights must be made.

On a side note, power gap in group one would still be huge. It just might go from 50k+ (where + goes from 80k to 190k) to maybe 60k+. There aren't THAT many 50k+ players who aren't lv 90, so they won't bump out all that many "low powers". So there's still going to be a huge gap there, fights for most of the ptw would still be pretty fast one way or another (on a side note, once about a time, the bottom power of the bracket would have been higher, but some of the bottom of group one are quitting, either just sage or the game altogether, thus lower powered players are getting in there)

For the rest of the brackets thou, yes, fights would slow down. I'd say the mid 40ks to mid 50ks might be the slowest? I'm not sure. Wherever the most player of similar power are I guess.

Qolem

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On 2017-07-08 06:45:30 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Hi there,

The previous thread was a suggestion, it was forwarded, so thread was closed.
Ressurecting that thread won't re-apply the suggestion, if you wish to discuss how the system works, it is not a good idea to do it in CS section of the forums. I understand that it's a very wanted feature, and I made sure that I emphasize on that, but there is nothing that the further discussion here will achieve. Suggestion was forwarded, it cannot be "more forwarded".
I hope you understand, please have a nice day.

If you have any particular questions concerning this suggestion, you can PM me with them, to avoid creating the identical thread again.

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