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On 2017-04-25 11:35:20Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So recently a mod got to one of my post with this quote: "It's already been discussed with the developers and unfortunately, it's something that's staying.
We'll have to adapt as players." - Tobei

The post in question was about the new ninja tool nerf. Now this is brings something into question. Should we just stand by and "adapt" to every change they make to the game even when the change is negative? As the player base we have a right to stand up for the game, and voice our opinons. Now I'm not saying everything we say must be done or that we have the final say, but when a change like this comes out and doesn't have any support why should it be allowed to slide by.

I could go on about how it should be handled and give examples that support how to handle it, but the forum rules would get me banned for mentioning other games/companies so I won't go into it.

All I ask of my fellow players is this. Stand up for the game, don't let greedy hands continue to bring this game to ruin. If you love the game, and the community like I do stand up! Make posts against negative changes, refuse to spend until action is taken.

MAKE NARUTO GREAT AGAIN!
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On 2017-04-25 19:03:52Show this Author Only
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To be honest most companies don't care about what players want only their money. In the end unless the company sees something being a good thing (mostly towards their wallet) it won't change otherwise. So to be fair, it's pointless to voice your opinion about a change that was made in a game. (Seen this personally happen with too many gaming companies so I stopped complaining and just played not caring one way or another)
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On 2017-04-25 19:09:09Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-04-25 19:03:52
  • To be honest most companies don't care about what players want only their money. In the end unless the company sees something being a good thing (mostly towards their wallet) it won't change otherwise. So to be fair, it's pointless to voice your opinion about a change that was made in a game. (Seen this personally happen with too many gaming companies so I stopped complaining and just played not caring one way or another)
Or we could not buy anything, related to functions that were changed like this one, for months and they would have no profit from it, and then, maybe, reverse back to the way it was since its either free or we dont want it at all.

Giving them no incentive to keep it away from us
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On 2017-04-25 19:25:01Show this Author Only
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Well people adapted to dead servers making alts and some others adapted leaving said servers. To be honest "adapt" is such a loose term you c*e however you like, I doubt the person who said that had to adapt to anything since they are likely among the many who did their tools back when the bug was active.

Simply said, they have a scrip to follow and be it gold stats or Cross-server Sage you will have to adapt to follow it or complain a lot, but that won't change anything.
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On 2017-04-25 19:35:18Show this Author Only
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I'm pretty sure it was the same with the other version, just all in a patch and they just translate, check some bug and patch it in. If they want to change it now they would need to reprogramming that part of the game and everyone know how lazy/bad/time consuming they are with it. So if whether I have to choose between that and like 2 weeks sooner for the new content update, content pls
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On 2017-04-25 20:48:36Show this Author Only
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To be honest, the stats as are now are how they should be, so we shouldn't ask at all for them to go back as they used to be, but for the early opening of the instance after Brothers Farewell (the one that requires around 40k power to open that drops red natures and all the others red tools), so that all the reforged item made so far due to this obvious bug would become very quickly obsolete and pretty useless for the people that got them due to this bug.
It's the only way to get the situation solved in a fair way for everybody.
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On 2017-04-25 21:59:24Show this Author Only
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  • Test Ninja On 2017-04-25 19:09:09
  • Or we could not buy anything, related to functions that were changed like this one, for months and they would have no profit from it, and then, maybe, reverse back to the way it was since its either free or we dont want it at all.

    Giving them no incentive to keep it away from us
Only problem is, no matter how much people say "just don't spend money" people will still spend money. And if people didn't spend money on the game Oasis can see it as "Hey this game is not keeping up with income so let's shut it down!" Which backfires when you "speak with your wallet".
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On 2017-04-25 22:28:29Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-04-25 21:59:24
  • Only problem is, no matter how much people say "just don't spend money" people will still spend money. And if people didn't spend money on the game Oasis can see it as "Hey this game is not keeping up with income so let's shut it down!" Which backfires when you "speak with your wallet".
I wish I could use other games as examples, but like I said the forum rules state that you can't. But there are cases out there where speaking with your wallet & your voice changed games for the better.
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On 2017-04-25 22:32:18Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2017-04-25 20:48:36
  • To be honest, the stats as are now are how they should be, so we shouldn't ask at all for them to go back as they used to be, but for the early opening of the instance after Brothers Farewell (the one that requires around 40k power to open that drops red natures and all the others red tools), so that all the reforged item made so far due to this obvious bug would become very quickly obsolete and pretty useless for the people that got them due to this bug.
    It's the only way to get the situation solved in a fair way for everybody.
It's people like you who let the company walk all over them. I call BS that it was a "bug" there is no way they would let it stay for 3 months if it was. And then the patch to fix it comes out with the essences? Way too coincidental. They saw a new way to fatten their wallets, and they hurt the game in order to do so.
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On 2017-04-25 22:33:47Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-04-25 19:03:52
  • To be honest most companies don't care about what players want only their money. In the end unless the company sees something being a good thing (mostly towards their wallet) it won't change otherwise. So to be fair, it's pointless to voice your opinion about a change that was made in a game. (Seen this personally happen with too many gaming companies so I stopped complaining and just played not caring one way or another)
Then you obviously haven't been in too many communities. Games are changed constantly based on player feedback. I would list you some examples but they remove posts mentioning other games.
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On 2017-04-25 23:03:00Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-04-25 21:59:24
  • Only problem is, no matter how much people say "just don't spend money" people will still spend money. And if people didn't spend money on the game Oasis can see it as "Hey this game is not keeping up with income so let's shut it down!" Which backfires when you "speak with your wallet".
i didnt said "do not spend in this game", i said "do not spend in stuff related to this feature".

completelly different things, you can still spend all you want.

but to make it even more clear, if they put those essences or weaker gold ninja tools with gold stats on events dont buy them.

the game will still make money to support itself but not on the feature that has the problems. and this line of thinking can be applied to other features with similar problems.
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On 2017-04-25 23:08:19Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2017-04-25 20:48:36
  • To be honest, the stats as are now are how they should be, so we shouldn't ask at all for them to go back as they used to be, but for the early opening of the instance after Brothers Farewell (the one that requires around 40k power to open that drops red natures and all the others red tools), so that all the reforged item made so far due to this obvious bug would become very quickly obsolete and pretty useless for the people that got them due to this bug.
    It's the only way to get the situation solved in a fair way for everybody.
the highest instance we have right now, needs you to have 43.2k BP to access it, its the Brothers Farewell hard mode, and still drops worst items then the ones we had before the "downgrade".

the next one to open is the kage instance and it will take a long time for it to open, and even that i'm not sure if they will have better secondary stats then the ones we have right now. they might have better primary stats but with the difference in the secondary stats it might still be worthy to keep the ones we have right now.

where do you see the obsolete items? I really didnt understood your post
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On 2017-04-26 06:06:09Show this Author Only
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  • Test Ninja On 2017-04-25 23:03:00
  • i didnt said "do not spend in this game", i said "do not spend in stuff related to this feature".

    completelly different things, you can still spend all you want.

    but to make it even more clear, if they put those essences or weaker gold ninja tools with gold stats on events dont buy them.

    the game will still make money to support itself but not on the feature that has the problems. and this line of thinking can be applied to other features with similar problems.
"Only problem is, no matter how much people say "just don't spend money" people will still spend money."

This sentence doesn't give a flying crap about what you specified or didn't specify. While the rest of my post is referring to an extreme case still not caring about what you specified or not. So to open your post with what you did shows me you're talking about 1 thing while I'm talking about another.
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On 2017-04-26 06:43:43Show this Author Only
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It's fine if they spend money now, I don't really see the problem.

Just remember to get a refund from your bank when you stop playing, especially if you feel like betrayed by the decision.

I personally will not do it, because I do not really feel bad by their decision. Also, I can complain at Namco/Bandai or Tencent instead.
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