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On 2017-03-02 04:01:27Show this Author Only
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-02 02:50:46
  • I want just Durability + CC immunity, strength as itself is a secondary worry of mine.

    Sad to say CC immunity is atm LM (Root of Warrior) only, unless you run the preview Jinchuuriki Team of KKGaara+Bee+NinetailsNaruto(4tails+)

    there will be a lot more of em once JichuurikiTreasure comes around.

    Alternatively you could try a mass mirror team, as in Kurenai, Ningendo and Firemain + Someone(Itachi?)

    but while i think that sounds like a funny team, Kurenai and Itachi are not good enough till Skillbooks(according to youtube vids) and the whole team is quite fragile

    Which brings us to the second point durability. It does not get much more stable then Sailor Sakura, Earthmain and Sage Naruto.... (not naming Kimimaro and other tanks, while they are stable they usually need certain teams to shine)

    So maybe define what you are searching in durability
jinchuriki treasure is coming out in 7/8 months
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On 2017-03-02 04:50:53Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-02 03:47:26
  • I definitely am really not too enthusiasic about Sage Naruto :/

    I reallly like the ninja, but... if my opponent has a barrier and combos on him, he's dead, no exceptions :/
    Should I run life mood on him, or sth?

    Other than that, I c*e really any ninjas, as long as they can take 1+ combo and live through it, no matter what cir*stances.

    (about preview jinchuriki, I wish I could use it, Bee was one of 3 ninjas I wanted to get from Kage... I still want those 3, no luck 'till now XD)
    This post was last edited by Qolem at 2017-3-2 03:48
With what you have right now (and considering who's built), Wind/SN/Kaze/SS is by far the best lineup you can trot out. If you're having issues with SN being squishy, that's not an SN problem, it just means that you're lacking power.

Running Impetus provides the debuff you're interested in without sacrificing too much of anything else, and wind+SSakura is a deadly combo in itself. Let's say Mei bombs you; you can proc impetus to clear ignite before SSakura's heal (to ensure you actually heal), with the handy side effect of having the heal cooldown reset. Run the clones and that adds durability through meatshields.

For whatever it's worth, the guy you replied to is incorrect as root is not the only source of CC immunity. The new fire mystery clears debuffs, adds a shield, and gives 1 turn of immunity, and you can run Gakido lineups to have a psuedo-CC immune team.
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On 2017-03-02 07:07:09Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-02 04:50:53
  • With what you have right now (and considering who's built), Wind/SN/Kaze/SS is by far the best lineup you can trot out. If you're having issues with SN being squishy, that's not an SN problem, it just means that you're lacking power.

    Running Impetus provides the debuff you're interested in without sacrificing too much of anything else, and wind+SSakura is a deadly combo in itself. Let's say Mei bombs you; you can proc impetus to clear ignite before SSakura's heal (to ensure you actually heal), with the handy side effect of having the heal cooldown reset. Run the clones and that adds durability through meatshields.

    For whatever it's worth, the guy you replied to is incorrect as root is not the only source of CC immunity. The new fire mystery clears debuffs, adds a shield, and gives 1 turn of immunity, and you can run Gakido lineups to have a psuedo-CC immune team.
I guess this lineup might be good, but power is not the issue here. I'm 9th, at 45k power, and yet 2 combos from 35k power kill me, and 1 combo from 40k power does it with ease...

The thing is, I already used the team you mention, and as much as it was, let's say, good, it was still squishy as hell, with 2 characters being dead from singular combos. Neither Sage, nor Main could take any hits, making them easy targets, and it always is what breaks my team apart :/

The theory is all nice, but it sets the expectation of surviving Mei's bombing, while it will not happen :/

Thanks for the effort, but I'm not sure if I can actually trust the wind main as it is :/
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On 2017-03-02 08:21:03Show this Author Only
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I know a friend who uses wind main, sage naruto, gaara the normal one tho kazekage would work, he just doesn't have him yet, and tsunade. Obviously this doesn't include many rare ninjas, and our server isn't as strong as yours is, but he can hold his own and is currently 9th in rankings. With the clones and dance of impetus his sage naruto usually gets in at least two rasen shurikens before he dies, even when he's focused down with people that are stronger than him. As for me, I'm an earth main, but i have jigokudo, so i'm using him, onoki, and yamato. I could use kazekage gaara if I wanted, but i figure having a castable barrier was better.
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On 2017-03-02 08:35:45Show this Author Only
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Temari (Five kages) - Sage Naruto *x
Wind Main - Kazekage Gaara *x
*x - *x - *x

Forgot what the summon, chase and talents is, but that's what a wind main in our server does.
R2 Sage+Temari+Wind Mystery (this one resets the cooldown)
R3 Sage again + Temari
R4 Gaara Mystery

The only downfall of this time is Ninja that can acunpuncture with mystery and chase.
For example, R1 Seal Sage and R2 combo the Wind Main making it impossible to remove CC.

But if you want to have a more controlled one you can replace Temari with Gakido, this will remove CC and will ensure you your rounds of skills spam but sacrificing damage.
This post was last edited by Kisamehada at 2017-3-2 08:38
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On 2017-03-02 09:19:25Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-02 08:21:03
  • I know a friend who uses wind main, sage naruto, gaara the normal one tho kazekage would work, he just doesn't have him yet, and tsunade. Obviously this doesn't include many rare ninjas, and our server isn't as strong as yours is, but he can hold his own and is currently 9th in rankings. With the clones and dance of impetus his sage naruto usually gets in at least two rasen shurikens before he dies, even when he's focused down with people that are stronger than him. As for me, I'm an earth main, but i have jigokudo, so i'm using him, onoki, and yamato. I could use kazekage gaara if I wanted, but i figure having a castable barrier was better.
It's basically the same as aformentioned, but with Tsunade over Sakura? I guess that's cool, but as I said, I have terrible issues with sustain, with Sage Naruto I sometimes manage to use one shuriken, but most of the time none go out, because he's dead :/

That being said, the Earth team you use seems kinda fun, if I ever happen to ge Jigo, I'mma check it out :D Thanks for help :)
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On 2017-03-02 09:21:09Show this Author Only
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  • Kisamehada On 2017-03-02 08:35:45
  • Temari (Five kages) - Sage Naruto *x
    Wind Main - Kazekage Gaara *x
    *x - *x - *x

    Forgot what the summon, chase and talents is, but that's what a wind main in our server does.
    R2 Sage+Temari+Wind Mystery (this one resets the cooldown)
    R3 Sage again + Temari
    R4 Gaara Mystery

    The only downfall of this time is Ninja that can acunpuncture with mystery and chase.
    For example, R1 Seal Sage and R2 combo the Wind Main making it impossible to remove CC.

    But if you want to have a more controlled one you can replace Temari with Gakido, this will remove CC and will ensure you your rounds of skills spam but sacrificing damage.
    This post was last edited by Kisamehada at 2017-3-2 08:38
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    This post was last edited by Kisamehada at 2017-3-2 08:39
The main issues I have atm is getting 1 shotted, and controlled, so this team is not exactly my piece of cake :/ I'm waiting for the level cap increase to get myself that Gakido, hoping he could improve my situation XD

Thanks for the suggestion though, if I go Wind Main, I'll check it out :p
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On 2017-03-02 09:55:47Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-02 09:19:25
  • It's basically the same as aformentioned, but with Tsunade over Sakura? I guess that's cool, but as I said, I have terrible issues with sustain, with Sage Naruto I sometimes manage to use one shuriken, but most of the time none go out, because he's dead :/

    That being said, the Earth team you use seems kinda fun, if I ever happen to ge Jigo, I'mma check it out :D Thanks for help :)
Yeah, jigokudo helps string my lineup together, what with the heal/debuff, the revive, and his double chase that works well with giant katsuyu. I got him really early though, and he's been in my lineup for like 30 or so lvls. I'm only a lvl 79, so that's rather impressive in and of itself. I can get ridiculous buffs out of yamato/onoki/earth main though, that's why I like it. Also good for gnw.
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On 2017-03-02 11:23:24Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-02 07:07:09
  • I guess this lineup might be good, but power is not the issue here. I'm 9th, at 45k power, and yet 2 combos from 35k power kill me, and 1 combo from 40k power does it with ease...

    The thing is, I already used the team you mention, and as much as it was, let's say, good, it was still squishy as hell, with 2 characters being dead from singular combos. Neither Sage, nor Main could take any hits, making them easy targets, and it always is what breaks my team apart :/

    The theory is all nice, but it sets the expectation of surviving Mei's bombing, while it will not happen :/

    Thanks for the effort, but I'm not sure if I can actually trust the wind main as it is :/
If you fight people 10k power lower than you, how do you not have the init advantage? With that team, losing to a team that much weaker should literally be impossible unless there's some sort of user error while running the team.
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On 2017-03-02 15:32:15Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-02 11:23:24
  • If you fight people 10k power lower than you, how do you not have the init advantage? With that team, losing to a team that much weaker should literally be impossible unless there's some sort of user error while running the team.
You telll me that XD Most of the time my barrier doesn't go through, and I'm half dead after ex. 1010 mystery, but in case of other teams, I get too controlled to do anything :/
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On 2017-03-02 23:17:55Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-02 15:32:15
  • You telll me that XD Most of the time my barrier doesn't go through, and I'm half dead after ex. 1010 mystery, but in case of other teams, I get too controlled to do anything :/
If your barrier isn't coming through, you need to work on init. Bad team comps can beat the best lineups with the init advantage.
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On 2017-03-03 01:18:00Show this Author Only
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wind main naruto sage gaara kage asuma wb :lol
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On 2017-03-03 01:34:07Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-02 23:17:55
  • If your barrier isn't coming through, you need to work on init. Bad team comps can beat the best lineups with the init advantage.
That's the whole point of me making this thread though XD I can't work on ini any more than I already do now, but people around me just get better RNG and do it faster :/ I'm in a position in which I am unable to spend on it, so can't artifficialy speed up the process XD
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On 2017-03-03 01:35:17Show this Author Only
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  • Saw Yuuki On 2017-03-03 01:18:00
  • wind main naruto sage gaara kage asuma wb :lol
Thx, I will take a look at it when I go wind. It seems like the asuma's boost will not stay even 1 round though, without any shields to go with it :/
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On 2017-03-03 01:50:25Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 01:35:17
  • Thx, I will take a look at it when I go wind. It seems like the asuma's boost will not stay even 1 round though, without any shields to go with it :/
Use
Iruka Earth Main x
Sailor Sakura KazeKage Gaara x
23112 rhino
or replace iruka with sage naruto and use the 4th chase This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 01:55
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On 2017-03-03 02:46:07Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-03-03 01:34:07
  • That's the whole point of me making this thread though XD I can't work on ini any more than I already do now, but people around me just get better RNG and do it faster :/ I'm in a position in which I am unable to spend on it, so can't artifficialy speed up the process XD
Well then you need to funnel all your resources into increasing your init. You have a good stable of ninjas, so you shouldn't be spending coupons on event ninjas, only power (specifically sources of bp) until sufficiently strong enough.
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On 2017-03-03 04:29:28Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-03 01:50:25
  • Use
    Iruka Earth Main x
    Sailor Sakura KazeKage Gaara x
    23112 rhino
    or replace iruka with sage naruto and use the 4th chase This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 01:55
I hate to say it, but I also tried this one ;P

Either way, thanks :)
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On 2017-03-03 04:32:59Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-03-03 02:46:07
  • Well then you need to funnel all your resources into increasing your init. You have a good stable of ninjas, so you shouldn't be spending coupons on event ninjas, only power (specifically sources of bp) until sufficiently strong enough.
I also do that, all events with initiative at stakes, all goes for initiative :/ Lack of luck just set me behind, with having to wait full bar before I get a lvl up, instead of getting it at half, like most ppl at least sometimes get...

With my ninjas the problem is, regardless of how many I have, most don't work together, or are not that good at the stars I have them at :/
That's a problem I face a lot
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On 2017-03-03 05:02:57Show this Author Only
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If you think the team GaaraKK, Earthmain, Iruka, Sailor Sakura is not sufficiantlly durable, then i have to disappoint you...

2 Superarmors + the strongest offensive Healer + Iruka(Barrier like buff and Shields unaffected by initiative)
stable as heck

If you still get killed by enemies 10k power under you, you might need to check your connection and your playstyle

Edit: Because i forgot

I know the feeling running behind Initiative wise (playing on 172 so close in Server uptime), and catching up is difficult to impossible as the top can still grow well at that point.

I feel your pain, but there is only so much you can expect from the current roster.
This post was last edited by dat***@gmx.de at 2017-3-3 05:07
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On 2017-03-03 05:23:11Show this Author Only
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-03 05:02:57
  • If you think the team GaaraKK, Earthmain, Iruka, Sailor Sakura is not sufficiantlly durable, then i have to disappoint you...

    2 Superarmors + the strongest offensive Healer + Iruka(Barrier like buff and Shields unaffected by initiative)
    stable as heck

    If you still get killed by enemies 10k power under you, you might need to check your connection and your playstyle

    Edit: Because i forgot

    I know the feeling running behind Initiative wise (playing on 172 so close in Server uptime), and catching up is difficult to impossible as the top can still grow well at that point.

    I feel your pain, but there is only so much you can expect from the current roster.
    This post was last edited by dat***@gmx.de at 2017-3-3 05:07
I mean... it's not that this team is not durable, it's that it's 100% obvious how to counter it. Most ppl I face carry control on both chase and mystery, so getting my main shotdown is no problem, and then getting sailor down so she can't do anything, and I lose... that's the main issue I have, not the actual durability of it.

That being said, Iruka is glass af, even at 3*, so I dunno what durability does he bring into the team, shielding 2 ppl besides himself :/

Sage Naruto version would work better, but Sage is easibly controllable :/

I don't mean to be disgraceful, I really appreciate the help and effort, but I went through over 100 teams at the very least, and this was one of them.
It doesn't lack durability, but it takes over 10 rounds to get through with the battle
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