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On 2017-03-01 10:05:02Show All PostsDescending Order
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I know I have already done a topic like that, but I think some things have changed, and once again, at 3 AM, feeling * for not being able to think of absolutely anything, I just want to ask, what main should I try to aim for?
One thing worth noting is, I'm disgustingly slow, when it comes to refines. Even with putting all my resourced possible into them, I am unable to get them high enough, atm I have 1 at lvl 8, rest at 5/6.

(also please, don't say lightning, it's the worst thing I could hear right now :Q)



I'm not even gonna ask for teams this time, I got so much help from everyone who still reads my posts, that I'd feel * for asking for teams as well... Just please for opinion, and why do you think so, maybe which ninjas made you think that this particular main would suit me?

A quick recap:
- What main matches me?
- Why?
- Please let it not be lightning XD

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On 2017-03-01 16:30:47Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-01 10:12:10
  • Well i think everyone does know how broken is Mei,Mabui,Tenten,Water main.
    The best combo and main you c*e is mabui,tenten,watermain,darui.
    Ok you don't go first, np there u can heal the cc u are throw at you 2nd round.
    You have tenten round 1, and believe that is sick dmg, then round 2 u have heal, then mabui,darui.And u have heal.
    I have all the kages, no super rares.And even curse hidan.And guess what i play ? Water main with mei,mabui,tenten, all 65% mooded and 4* mabui.Is not lightning meta believe me, whatever these kids are hoping for, light meta wont be until swordsman.Water it is for me atm.

    EDIT: for the light lovers that might read, i won vs 10k power gap and him having initiative, raikage team.Yeah light its more decent now, meta? Nhe.Only with itachi susano, and i doubt u face that many.
    This post was last edited by 103***@google at 2017-3-1 10:13
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Thanks, I have already played this team some time ago, but the problem I face is dead Mabui on round 1/2.

And well.... my highest mood so far is 45% on main >.< I could never reach further with all my characters needing it.
Tenten damage is sick, although only with barrier, which I'm almost never left with during combat.

I do like Water Main though, and I think I will give this team some more playtests, maybe it will turn out for better. Thanks ^^
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On 2017-03-01 16:35:26Show All Posts
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  • Koncept On 2017-03-01 10:39:16
  • This team annoys me so much, but since you don't have Jigokudo I replaced him with SS.
    https://i.gyazo.com/d0c25106ce67a7391881590f05aa7179.png

    Talents: 3,2,2,3,1 (On your second passive I think you are supposed to use the 4th one, but I think it is unlocked at level 85. Which I think you are, so if you want to use it go for it. I have never played WM so I don't know what it does.)

    Summon: Rhino

    Reason I pick this team is because it is very hard to counter, turn one is kinda slow, but and round 2 you use sage naruto mystery and his passive gives you 20 chakra, then you should be able to use gaara's mystery aswell. Then you use main's mystery and resets all cooldowns and debuffs (wait till last standard before using). Never played this team personally, but you will get the hang of it. I honestly despise this team in Arena, but it is a great team! This post was last edited by Koncept at 2017-3-1 10:40
Thanks, will try it! I already have used it to little effect, but the positioning was a bit different, so maybe it will work like that :)
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On 2017-03-01 16:37:20Show All Posts
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-03-01 11:56:25
  • I'd think you can go for water with mabui darui tenten. It would be a slightly different flavor than mei; but still painfully annoying and effective.
As mentioned in the other post, the big problem is that, even though I have 2 healers, one of them is dead almost immiedietaly, and I don't have the barrier most of the time, which makes 1010s attacks do almost nothing.

As said, I'll give it another playtest, but it's a team I kinda don't trust, because of the initiative lack :/
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On 2017-03-01 16:47:02Show All Posts
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  • warhubs On 2017-03-01 14:50:24
  • water with mabui darui tenten
    May i ask, the form and skill though, it intrigue me how effective this team is ... also Qolem, seeing your already earth main, and you dont wanna hear that sword ninja main lol , seem the choice is either fire, water or wind main with a lot favour towards water main. Seeing your ninja rooster, i think you can pull any main lol .. just focus on what you want to achieve with that particular main ie is it for ninja exam, survival or that darn arena XD.
Don't mind me being Earth, it's just what happened to be usable in my previous team.

"that sword ninja main" would be alright, and I really feel dumb for not being able to overcome just... sadness I feel whenever I change into it. It's kinda new and weird for me, but I am unable to enjoy playing lightning.

I don't mind either of the other mains, although Wind seems kinda weak, whenever I play it, she's the first to die, and last to contribute in fight. That being said, anything goes, as long as it's not lightning XD

Water main is what I think I have most chances with, just because she's at least remotely able to tank a hit or two, as opposed to fire post 2.0 or wind. My problem is having some other ninjas that are not going to die, and are going to be healed by her, while also dealing damage. I hoped for Sage Naruto to fulfill that role, but he's sometimes dead from lightning main's standards, so I don't see any more reason to even bother with him XD

With Fire... I want to use that main effectively THE MOST, I adore this main, BUT, since 2.0 came out, I have no clue what to use with him. Whatever I do, it doesn't work, it lacks, damage, it lacks cc, and it lacks sustain, so all in all... it lacks everything.
From being able to utilize fire main well, it came out to the conclusion of not being able to think about anything with the guy :v The fact that there are close to no "new" strategies with him on forums doesn't really help me with it now, does it xD

Honestly, I don't give a crap about Arena, because when I see Mei, it means I lost the fight. I have not even once won against a team that had Mei, and was faster :v

Survival I can auto with Fukurokumaru, and nothing bad should happen :x I don't mind not having team for it, as any team will do there.

and ofc, Ninja exam I have already finished :D

That all being said, thanks for the feedback ^^
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On 2017-03-01 16:48:35Show All Posts
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  • Tamahime1610 On 2017-03-01 15:13:52
  • u c*so use sailor sakura sage naruto and iruka..with water main and poison tai..i got a lot of success with that simple team in the arena
Ye, I know this team, but my problem is and was, the combos.
It's virtually impossible to do any combos whatsoever with this team, unless I have all golden summon pets, which I don't :/

Iruka dies really quickly, which also doesn't help the situation, but I'll try it again, got him 3* quite recently :)
Thank you ^^
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On 2017-03-01 16:50:37Show All Posts
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  • Linhvn On 2017-03-01 16:08:49
  • You said you have good team with earth+gaara+mabui+ SS and earth main is the best,Why you have to change? ;P
Please calm down, I'm not saying this team is bad. I'm also not saying it's the best. It's just a good team, not too special, but not that bad.
I wouldn't want to face it in any fight myself, but I have a bad habit of getting bored with teams quickly.

I'm currently on a quest to find myself an ULTIMATE TEAM, that I won't get bored with for at least a month, the currect best score was 3 weeks XD
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On 2017-03-01 17:09:57Show All Posts
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  • Praziptat On 2017-03-01 16:54:34
  • if youre a 85 player and come and ask in fourms that's a problem :)
I know it's a problem ;_;

I play this game ever since it came out (this version, that is), and I still am unable to build a team that works... it's come to the moment, in which I don't know if I really can't teambuild, or am too picky to make any team seem worthwhile for me.

That being said, I really like this game, and want to play it, but at the same time playing it only to be beaten around by ppl 5k power lower than me, just because they are faster/have Mei/both, is kinda pointless :/

I feel really bad about asking for help on forums xth time, but I'm at the same time really helpless with what I can do :/
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On 2017-03-02 01:13:49Show All Posts
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-01 18:45:29
  • If you are on the lower Initiative side(im with you there) go for Water-, Wind- or Earthmain.

    The reasoning behind it is simple, you will eat the first combo and the debuffs woven in.
    So you need to either be able to remove them (Wind-/Water-) or stop the combo through superarmor(Earthmain) or your team is already controlled.

    Teams have already been named a few so ill not go into those

    I think the greatest problem is, you are searching for an "ultimate team" which is difficult.
    Being Durable+Strong+Uncontrollable is just a lot to ask for at the same time.

    Most Teamcompositions have counters, especially if you do not have the initiative. That is something you need to keep in mind and adjust your expectations.
Thanks for taking the time to go so deep into it, I appreciate it :)

My experience with Earth main is, if I want to run control in team, I already lose to all the mirrors, since he doesn't really debuff all that much, to have a decoy mirrored :/

Wind is cool, but problem appears, when I get controlled on a healer, and then comboed on main
Healer is out of the round, main dies, I automatically lose the fight.

Water has a similiar issue to Wind, while being at least tiny bit tankier XD

I'm not really searching for "ultimate" team, I'm searching for something that's fun to play. And nobody likes losing 100% of the matches, so it is just a co-need for a team that will not lose every single fight, or at least win more than half.

I want just Durability + CC immunity, strength as itself is a secondary worry of mine.
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On 2017-03-02 03:47:26Show All Posts
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-02 02:50:46
  • I want just Durability + CC immunity, strength as itself is a secondary worry of mine.

    Sad to say CC immunity is atm LM (Root of Warrior) only, unless you run the preview Jinchuuriki Team of KKGaara+Bee+NinetailsNaruto(4tails+)

    there will be a lot more of em once JichuurikiTreasure comes around.

    Alternatively you could try a mass mirror team, as in Kurenai, Ningendo and Firemain + Someone(Itachi?)

    but while i think that sounds like a funny team, Kurenai and Itachi are not good enough till Skillbooks(according to youtube vids) and the whole team is quite fragile

    Which brings us to the second point durability. It does not get much more stable then Sailor Sakura, Earthmain and Sage Naruto.... (not naming Kimimaro and other tanks, while they are stable they usually need certain teams to shine)

    So maybe define what you are searching in durability
I definitely am really not too enthusiasic about Sage Naruto :/

I reallly like the ninja, but... if my opponent has a barrier and combos on him, he's dead, no exceptions :/
Should I run life mood on him, or sth?

Other than that, I c*e really any ninjas, as long as they can take 1+ combo and live through it, no matter what cir*stances.

(about preview jinchuriki, I wish I could use it, Bee was one of 3 ninjas I wanted to get from Kage... I still want those 3, no luck 'till now XD)
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On 2017-03-02 07:07:09Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-02 04:50:53
  • With what you have right now (and considering who's built), Wind/SN/Kaze/SS is by far the best lineup you can trot out. If you're having issues with SN being squishy, that's not an SN problem, it just means that you're lacking power.

    Running Impetus provides the debuff you're interested in without sacrificing too much of anything else, and wind+SSakura is a deadly combo in itself. Let's say Mei bombs you; you can proc impetus to clear ignite before SSakura's heal (to ensure you actually heal), with the handy side effect of having the heal cooldown reset. Run the clones and that adds durability through meatshields.

    For whatever it's worth, the guy you replied to is incorrect as root is not the only source of CC immunity. The new fire mystery clears debuffs, adds a shield, and gives 1 turn of immunity, and you can run Gakido lineups to have a psuedo-CC immune team.
I guess this lineup might be good, but power is not the issue here. I'm 9th, at 45k power, and yet 2 combos from 35k power kill me, and 1 combo from 40k power does it with ease...

The thing is, I already used the team you mention, and as much as it was, let's say, good, it was still squishy as hell, with 2 characters being dead from singular combos. Neither Sage, nor Main could take any hits, making them easy targets, and it always is what breaks my team apart :/

The theory is all nice, but it sets the expectation of surviving Mei's bombing, while it will not happen :/

Thanks for the effort, but I'm not sure if I can actually trust the wind main as it is :/
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On 2017-03-02 09:19:25Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-02 08:21:03
  • I know a friend who uses wind main, sage naruto, gaara the normal one tho kazekage would work, he just doesn't have him yet, and tsunade. Obviously this doesn't include many rare ninjas, and our server isn't as strong as yours is, but he can hold his own and is currently 9th in rankings. With the clones and dance of impetus his sage naruto usually gets in at least two rasen shurikens before he dies, even when he's focused down with people that are stronger than him. As for me, I'm an earth main, but i have jigokudo, so i'm using him, onoki, and yamato. I could use kazekage gaara if I wanted, but i figure having a castable barrier was better.
It's basically the same as aformentioned, but with Tsunade over Sakura? I guess that's cool, but as I said, I have terrible issues with sustain, with Sage Naruto I sometimes manage to use one shuriken, but most of the time none go out, because he's dead :/

That being said, the Earth team you use seems kinda fun, if I ever happen to ge Jigo, I'mma check it out :D Thanks for help :)
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On 2017-03-02 09:21:09Show All Posts
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  • Kisamehada On 2017-03-02 08:35:45
  • Temari (Five kages) - Sage Naruto *x
    Wind Main - Kazekage Gaara *x
    *x - *x - *x

    Forgot what the summon, chase and talents is, but that's what a wind main in our server does.
    R2 Sage+Temari+Wind Mystery (this one resets the cooldown)
    R3 Sage again + Temari
    R4 Gaara Mystery

    The only downfall of this time is Ninja that can acunpuncture with mystery and chase.
    For example, R1 Seal Sage and R2 combo the Wind Main making it impossible to remove CC.

    But if you want to have a more controlled one you can replace Temari with Gakido, this will remove CC and will ensure you your rounds of skills spam but sacrificing damage.
    This post was last edited by Kisamehada at 2017-3-2 08:38
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The main issues I have atm is getting 1 shotted, and controlled, so this team is not exactly my piece of cake :/ I'm waiting for the level cap increase to get myself that Gakido, hoping he could improve my situation XD

Thanks for the suggestion though, if I go Wind Main, I'll check it out :p
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On 2017-03-02 15:32:15Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-02 11:23:24
  • If you fight people 10k power lower than you, how do you not have the init advantage? With that team, losing to a team that much weaker should literally be impossible unless there's some sort of user error while running the team.
You telll me that XD Most of the time my barrier doesn't go through, and I'm half dead after ex. 1010 mystery, but in case of other teams, I get too controlled to do anything :/
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On 2017-03-03 01:34:07Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-02 23:17:55
  • If your barrier isn't coming through, you need to work on init. Bad team comps can beat the best lineups with the init advantage.
That's the whole point of me making this thread though XD I can't work on ini any more than I already do now, but people around me just get better RNG and do it faster :/ I'm in a position in which I am unable to spend on it, so can't artifficialy speed up the process XD
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On 2017-03-03 01:35:17Show All Posts
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  • Saw Yuuki On 2017-03-03 01:18:00
  • wind main naruto sage gaara kage asuma wb :lol
Thx, I will take a look at it when I go wind. It seems like the asuma's boost will not stay even 1 round though, without any shields to go with it :/
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On 2017-03-03 04:29:28Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-03 01:50:25
  • Use
    Iruka Earth Main x
    Sailor Sakura KazeKage Gaara x
    23112 rhino
    or replace iruka with sage naruto and use the 4th chase This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 01:55
I hate to say it, but I also tried this one ;P

Either way, thanks :)
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On 2017-03-03 04:32:59Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-03 02:46:07
  • Well then you need to funnel all your resources into increasing your init. You have a good stable of ninjas, so you shouldn't be spending coupons on event ninjas, only power (specifically sources of bp) until sufficiently strong enough.
I also do that, all events with initiative at stakes, all goes for initiative :/ Lack of luck just set me behind, with having to wait full bar before I get a lvl up, instead of getting it at half, like most ppl at least sometimes get...

With my ninjas the problem is, regardless of how many I have, most don't work together, or are not that good at the stars I have them at :/
That's a problem I face a lot
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On 2017-03-03 05:23:11Show All Posts
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  • AncientSeraf On 2017-03-03 05:02:57
  • If you think the team GaaraKK, Earthmain, Iruka, Sailor Sakura is not sufficiantlly durable, then i have to disappoint you...

    2 Superarmors + the strongest offensive Healer + Iruka(Barrier like buff and Shields unaffected by initiative)
    stable as heck

    If you still get killed by enemies 10k power under you, you might need to check your connection and your playstyle

    Edit: Because i forgot

    I know the feeling running behind Initiative wise (playing on 172 so close in Server uptime), and catching up is difficult to impossible as the top can still grow well at that point.

    I feel your pain, but there is only so much you can expect from the current roster.
    This post was last edited by dat***@gmx.de at 2017-3-3 05:07
I mean... it's not that this team is not durable, it's that it's 100% obvious how to counter it. Most ppl I face carry control on both chase and mystery, so getting my main shotdown is no problem, and then getting sailor down so she can't do anything, and I lose... that's the main issue I have, not the actual durability of it.

That being said, Iruka is glass af, even at 3*, so I dunno what durability does he bring into the team, shielding 2 ppl besides himself :/

Sage Naruto version would work better, but Sage is easibly controllable :/

I don't mean to be disgraceful, I really appreciate the help and effort, but I went through over 100 teams at the very least, and this was one of them.
It doesn't lack durability, but it takes over 10 rounds to get through with the battle
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On 2017-03-03 06:05:17Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-03-03 05:49:32
  • Well then..other than lightning the best team I see for you is
    Onoki Sage Naruto x
    Fire Main Kurotsuchi x
    34243 dog of hell

    If you end up as lightning the best team for you would be sasuke main kimi sailor sakura using lightning buff instead of leech
    that fire main team though is a lot stronger than it looks though speed may be an issue to you vs lightning teams This post was last edited by hie***@gmail.com at 2017-3-3 05:51
If I ever get the speed required for this team to work I will give it a go, it's one of those I've not seen before :D

As I said, as long as I can stay out of lightning, I will, this class is just making me uncomfortable :/

That being said, thanks for the help, I appreciate it. I know I'm a tough customer, if I can call myself that, with all those weird conditions I have for my teams :/

That being said, I also went through testing of water team, mabui, gnw1010, darui, and even though I can say it works better than it seemed before, it's still lackluster, and I still lost to people 5k lower than me, that were also slower... * Mei, she's haunting me XD
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