LOGIN
Register
Reply
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
1＃ Go ToSo I've been reading a lot of the complaints on forums regarding server merges and I must admit, at first I was like "Why are you complaining? You can do events again etc", but now, after undergoing a merge, I completely know were they are coming from. Firstly, the two servers that merged with my server NEVER needed the merge to begin with. I personally checked both servers and they both had 3-4 groups each with total BP well over 1 million and they both have 5-6 big spending players, their only issue is, they had no competition. Now, at first I was really happy with the merge as it meant meeting new players, events being more exciting etc, but wow was I wrong. In one day of the merge there are only 30 players from my server who actually stayed but 5 who are quiting, then we move onto other servers who are struggling badly, so badly that they can't even do events since they never happen and they are STILL waiting now. Little do they know that once their server does eventually merge, they're going to be up against players with BP 30k+ higher than theirs and so they quit.
My server is basically the Hidden Rain village, we were fine on our own, a little quite but still got on with daily activities, but then, the two neighbouring villages wanted more, they wanted more people to fight so they decide to face each other and guess what? Our Hidden Rain village is stuck right in the middle, constantly falling prey to these big villages because none of us have the power to fight back and so...my village, my server and it's players, are dead.
This is a WARNING to all new servers and new players, both mildly P2P and F2P, try and keep your server ALIVE, don't get to the point were you need a merge to be able to do events because I guarantee that the merge will kill your server off.
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 58
- Posts: 350
That's 'cause they prioritized the more active servers first. Doesn't really make sense now does it? I'm sitting on S16 with only 3 active groups, but the one is a farce that got a abandoned because most of the members joined with another group. War is nothing but free packs now, which isn't even fair because ten packs are NOT enough. As leader of one of the groups, our pack rotation is people getting 1 pack every 4 weeks. FOUR WEEKS.
Point is, what should happen is small servers get merged with other servers. What's happening is larger servers are getting merged with other large servers, because there are more active people. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 29
- Posts: 2271
- NoobityBoobity On 2017-02-16 07:51:57
-
That's 'cause they prioritized the more active servers first. Doesn't really make sense now does it? I'm sitting on S16 with only 3 active groups, but the one is a farce that got a abandoned because most of the members joined with another group. War is nothing but free packs now, which isn't even fair because ten packs are NOT enough. As leader of one of the groups, our pack rotation is people getting 1 pack every 4 weeks. FOUR WEEKS.
Point is, what should happen is small servers get merged with other servers. What's happening is larger servers are getting merged with other large servers, because there are more active people.
Errr... your server also don't need to merge?
Your group sounds like it have 40 active players, and it sounds like there is at least one other active group (and one deadish), which means there are like 80 active player in your server, that's wayyyy more than some of the others.
Now I'm not saying the server they merged are less active than yours, I'm sure I don't know, but there are OTHER servers that are in far worse shape. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 59
- Posts: 317
They merge servers weirdly.
First they pick the servers that will receive a merge not on the server's activity, but rather by what servers ask for it. On top of that they take the word of paying players much more than non-playing. So if your server has a VIP in it, and that VIP feels that your server needs a merge chances are that you are getting a merge.
Then there is how they choose who gets merge with who. I have no idea how they do it, to me it seems almost random. My server got merged with a server that was much much stronger th*, and another that was much weaker th*. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
- Dragonfire14 On 2017-02-16 08:08:27
-
They merge servers weirdly.
First they pick the servers that will receive a merge not on the server's activity, but rather by what servers ask for it. On top of that they take the word of paying players much more than non-playing. So if your server has a VIP in it, and that VIP feels that your server needs a merge chances are that you are getting a merge.
Then there is how they choose who gets merge with who. I have no idea how they do it, to me it seems almost random. My server got merged with a server that was much much stronger th*, and another that was much weaker th*.
That's what's happened with us, only both the servers have 90% big spenders. Apparently they're merging servers that are relatively close to each other in terms of how old they are which is wrong, they should be looking at each server and finding out which server has the same average BP with them. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 25
- Posts: 369
- XzileTigerZ On 2017-02-16 08:14:07
- That's what's happened with us, only both the servers have 90% big spenders. Apparently they're merging servers that are relatively close to each other in terms of how old they are which is wrong, they should be looking at each server and finding out which server has the same average BP with them.
agreed merge by power -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 13
- Posts: 310
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 29
- Posts: 2271
You know there is one way to make merger less problematic and still have the ptws get their merger when they want it.
When merger is done on "request", they are always merged upward to servers that didn't request it.
Merge upward is defined as: the requesting server have a lower average BP, lower top ftp BP and lower top player(ptw) BP than the server they are merged into.
What I really worry about is toxic super ptw (note NOT all super ptw are toxic, but you know some are) kill their server, request merge and get it, proceed to kill their new server and repeat. But dumping them in a stronger server with stronger ptw(who hopefully aren't toxic) will hopefully curb their toxicity, and that's why I suggest "requested" merge should go upwards.
If no one request merger, then they can go find low activity servers to merge "normally" -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 13
- Posts: 310
- PraiseLuka On 2017-02-16 08:25:38
-
You know there is one way to make merger less problematic and still have the ptws get their merger when they want it.
When merger is done on "request", they are always merged upward to servers that didn't request it.
Merge upward is defined as: the requesting server have a lower average BP, lower top ftp BP and lower top player(ptw) BP than the server they are merged into.
What I really worry about is toxic super ptw (note NOT all super ptw are toxic, but you know some are) kill their server, request merge and get it, proceed to kill their new server and repeat. But dumping them in a stronger server with stronger ptw(who hopefully aren't toxic) will hopefully curb their toxicity, and that's why I suggest "requested" merge should go upwards.
If no one request merger, then they can go find low activity servers to merge "normally"
i like the merge suggestion you posted in the other thread and i find it the best possible solution. Them going for it is surely a big NO , they don't spent much time when checking servers out 100% as they don't even check and read your entire PM before dismissing you. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
- PraiseLuka On 2017-02-16 08:25:38
-
You know there is one way to make merger less problematic and still have the ptws get their merger when they want it.
When merger is done on "request", they are always merged upward to servers that didn't request it.
Merge upward is defined as: the requesting server have a lower average BP, lower top ftp BP and lower top player(ptw) BP than the server they are merged into.
What I really worry about is toxic super ptw (note NOT all super ptw are toxic, but you know some are) kill their server, request merge and get it, proceed to kill their new server and repeat. But dumping them in a stronger server with stronger ptw(who hopefully aren't toxic) will hopefully curb their toxicity, and that's why I suggest "requested" merge should go upwards.
If no one request merger, then they can go find low activity servers to merge "normally"
Honestly, I know the P2P are who are keeping the money in the developers pockets but at the end of the day, a LOT of F2P players enjoy this game a lot and put just as much time and effort into it as most and they should really get the benefit of the doubt, atm, F2P players are just training themselves up to be test dummies for the stronger players. -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 72
- Posts: 1207
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 13
- Posts: 310
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 13
- Posts: 310
- XzileTigerZ On 2017-02-16 08:37:55
- Honestly, it would be easy for them to create a new team who's primary role is a sort of match-making role to find servers who are balanced in power, there would be no need to worry about the activity of either server since the merge alone will increase activity.
i suggested that a few days ago and even volunteered to do it for free but the thread got locked -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 27
- Posts: 46
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 59
- Posts: 317
- XzileTigerZ On 2017-02-16 08:33:40
- Honestly, I know the P2P are who are keeping the money in the developers pockets but at the end of the day, a LOT of F2P players enjoy this game a lot and put just as much time and effort into it as most and they should really get the benefit of the doubt, atm, F2P players are just training themselves up to be test dummies for the stronger players.
Problem is that they don't care about the F2P player base. Some mods go as far as to insult them. -
-
They could care about f2p people tho. If f2p people don't play the game, p2w people won't enjoy the game because the playerba
se will be obviously so small that you shouldn't bother play / spend money so they rather can leave the game.
Most of the player base in any game and here too is f2p , if u disregard the majority of playerba se ( in this case the f2p) the game will eventually die. All games die , but that just makes it faster. If the game dies faster it generates less profit for the company behind it. It's a vicious cycle and a lose / lose situation if they continue like that. I won't give them advice, they should have someone to do it for them like "game management director" or something. Maybe they change the attitude. If they don't, oh well, it ain't us that will lose anyway. Maybe it's time to move on. -
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 19
- Posts: 192
-
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 4
- Posts: 42
- Adrian Martin On 2017-02-16 13:25:20
- my server is combined over 4 server and only have 2 active group and only around 20 ppl active daily, bcoz everybody using lightning main now the game went boring without variation LMAO so ppl on my combined server stop playing :lol:lol
Adrain i have no idea what level you are but dont worry the lighting phase will die out longer and longer you go through the game. Lighting dies out late game. Also i agree that they should pay more attention to the f2p. They do make up a god part of their player base and hell i seen some go far. Like one guy who's f2p but in the top 10 in power in my server. Still i dislike the lower merging with bigger we sadly crush one server due to this since we were higher level and stronger we kinda kill 1 server so they should merge by equal power. Also the 3 group thing is sad in gnw because we only really have 3 main groups well 4 but that one is barley hanging on so its boring -
-
-
- Registered: 2017-07-24
- Topics: 4
- Posts: 42
-
Reply
Quicky Post
Reply
Log in in order to Post. LOGIN | Register