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1＃ Go ToHi, first off, I couldn't find a fitting label to this post. :(
I have been playing Naruto online for about 15 days now and when I started playing it was in a new server as well. I find this game quite fun to play.
But after playing it for sometime, I have been starting to wonder.
Look, I guess each server is quite small since new servers emerge and new players will join there. So I guess, the people who are playing in my server will stay fixed that way. The most active/strongest players has been gathered in one group. Their group leader did a good job promoting it by spamming everyone in private chats asking them to join. But that leaves a quite big gap compared to the other groups.
It brings a strong feel of a "we/them" feeling in this game some time.
I don't talk much with people when I play. I'm quite casual too, not too competitive. I have participated in weekly events such as the Sage battle one. The concept is really nice. But since I'm not one of the strongest players, participating is quite unfun for me. When strong players just like 'wait around' and 'farming' you know. That it feels quite pointless and demotivating to play. xd
The same with the convoy quests. Taking the SS mission I get attacked every single time and I lose. I know that you can't win all the time. But in this case, I feel like: 'If I participate, I will lose'. Cuz this game is basically more towards 'pay 2 win'. So being 'fair' isn't even a discussion.
It is still alright. I don't take the game too seriously. But playing often, it is always THE SAME players who plunder me/farming me. It does get a little annoying to see them around after awhile. Something like: "Look it is that guy again who has been plundering me everyday for the past week."
So I was thinking that, for the long term, more competivie/talkative players out there. It seem quite easy to like, cause a fight among the players. If someone by chance lose their temper, it would likely to start * talking and stuff.
Isn't that quite unhealthy for a game?
I think, it would been better. If player profile were not open for view instead set to private, and that player names will not be shown in plunder and those competitive battles, rather be kept anonymous. That way, concealing player's identity might be good to keep the player community more friendly with each other. What do you guys think? Anyone thought about this?
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TL;DR it won't work, because eventually you can just tell people apart by looking at their team.
You know how in sage world battle field doesn't show players name?
Well, your server probably haven't reached this point yet, being new and the teams player use volatile as a result. But in our server, we can EASILY tell who is who by the team they are using. And in the rare event when players use the same team (note that at this point, everyone have some and only some of the rare ninja, thus not everyone C*e the same teams), usually can tell them apart by their power (if you hover your mouse over the enemy portrait on the upper right, it tells you how much power that team have). And you DO need to know their power, this helps you judge how you should act as sometimes maybe a combo can kill something and therefore you should do that, but against others it can't and could potentially be useless (especially if they have healers to clear off whatever CC you put on them). And besides, you can see the hp bar, and usually estimate their strength based on that anyway, since more hp and more power usually goes hand in hand.
Of course, I'm only talking about opponent that matters. For example, as a level 85, I'm pretty unfamiliar with most player below lv 80, because the battle end too fast and too easily for it to matter... well except one, who is super strong for her level, so we all know that one. But you get the gist. -
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- PraiseLuka On 2017-02-16 05:37:05
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TL;DR it won't work, because eventually you can just tell people apart by looking at their team.
You know how in sage world battle field doesn't show players name?
Well, your server probably haven't reached this point yet, being new and the teams player use volatile as a result. But in our server, we can EASILY tell who is who by the team they are using. And in the rare event when players use the same team (note that at this point, everyone have some and only some of the rare ninja, thus not everyone C*e the same teams), usually can tell them apart by their power (if you hover your mouse over the enemy portrait on the upper right, it tells you how much power that team have). And you DO need to know their power, this helps you judge how you should act as sometimes maybe a combo can kill something and therefore you should do that, but against others it can't and could potentially be useless (especially if they have healers to clear off whatever CC you put on them). And besides, you can see the hp bar, and usually estimate their strength based on that anyway, since more hp and more power usually goes hand in hand.
Of course, I'm only talking about opponent that matters. For example, as a level 85, I'm pretty unfamiliar with most player below lv 80, because the battle end too fast and too easily for it to matter... well except one, who is super strong for her level, so we all know that one. But you get the gist.
Ah, I see then. No one is my server has reached past 60 yet.
I just thought that, with events that creates competitive environments without limitations, it sure feels a bit unbalanced in the long run.
In a past rpg game I played, with similar concept to this one it caused a lot of drama between players and guilds. People who play everyday will remember other active players and when conflicts arise between people or guilds it is just very unpleasant. Even if people are not using verbal abuse in fear of breaking the rules, they still have unfriendly tension between each other.
I have not played this game long enough. But I certainly hope it is not one of the games with a lot of drama between players in the same server. xd -
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- Aoitori On 2017-02-16 05:57:09
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Ah, I see then. No one is my server has reached past 60 yet.
I just thought that, with events that creates competitive environments without limitations, it sure feels a bit unbalanced in the long run.
In a past rpg game I played, with similar concept to this one it caused a lot of drama between players and guilds. People who play everyday will remember other active players and when conflicts arise between people or guilds it is just very unpleasant. Even if people are not using verbal abuse in fear of breaking the rules, they still have unfriendly tension between each other.
I have not played this game long enough. But I certainly hope it is not one of the games with a lot of drama between players in the same server. xd
I'm sorry to tell you this but EVERY server has drama between players, I speak from experience. I have played on 3 different servers, looking for one that didn't have too heavily Pay to Win players so I had a little chance. The thing is though, most of the drama is caused simply because the top spenders have it too easy and complain about no competition and so this triggers the Free to Play players to start the whole "It's only easy because you spent your mortgage on a game". Me personally, I would like to see a non spendable server were there are no in-game currency, nothing. This way, players really have to be smart as to what they upgrade etc. The players will need more strategy to win rather than power, but, this server PROFIT OASIS at all so all we can do is dream... -
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- XzileTigerZ On 2017-02-16 06:17:13
- I'm sorry to tell you this but EVERY server has drama between players, I speak from experience. I have played on 3 different servers, looking for one that didn't have too heavily Pay to Win players so I had a little chance. The thing is though, most of the drama is caused simply because the top spenders have it too easy and complain about no competition and so this triggers the Free to Play players to start the whole "It's only easy because you spent your mortgage on a game". Me personally, I would like to see a non spendable server were there are no in-game currency, nothing. This way, players really have to be smart as to what they upgrade etc. The players will need more strategy to win rather than power, but, this server PROFIT OASIS at all so all we can do is dream...
Sad to hear that. I really enjoy the game in general, because I like collecting ninjas and Naruto is one of my fav anime... xd
But if this how the game and the community is, I guess it isn't worth for me to spend money in it. I hate dramas. xd But I don't blame the company wanting to make profit tho. However it ruins a game's fun for the general play base if the game itself is unbalanced with too much p2w rather than skill ba sed. It is like the time and effort you put is next to meaningless if you're not spending cash on it... -
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Well this game still is less p2w than many others with similar concept. And lets be honest...there are not many "big whales" who spend **x $ on every servers, just a few. Most people if they're spending $ they're buying just gaara, maybe 1 time jonin medal or nowadays those monthly coupons. But still it's understanable because servers are not running for free, develepoers won't work for free etc. About complaining ? The thing is, people who complain the most will always complain, if You'll make server without any donations...you'll see them saying "aaa You don't work, You're little kiddo so You've more time to play than me, not fair etc." . You can easily check games where money gives You only cosmetic changes...You c*so meet there "complainers" and haters. This is how some people are, You can jump into their trap and start discussion with them which bring only negative energy...or You can ignore them and have fun with what You have. Same as in life, not everyone works in dream job, not everyone has many thing yet people can be happy with what they've. About hidden names in plunder im not against not for, so I'll be happy with any of this options. have a good day This post was last edited by mar***@gmail.com at 2017-2-16 06:42 -
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- Aoitori On 2017-02-16 05:57:09
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Ah, I see then. No one is my server has reached past 60 yet.
I just thought that, with events that creates competitive environments without limitations, it sure feels a bit unbalanced in the long run.
In a past rpg game I played, with similar concept to this one it caused a lot of drama between players and guilds. People who play everyday will remember other active players and when conflicts arise between people or guilds it is just very unpleasant. Even if people are not using verbal abuse in fear of breaking the rules, they still have unfriendly tension between each other.
I have not played this game long enough. But I certainly hope it is not one of the games with a lot of drama between players in the same server. xd
My server have some drama... ironically it doesn't really stem from the top ptw...
Despite being in a different group than the top 4 ptw of my server (those 4 are in the same group btw), I'm on pretty good term with them. They are, fortunately, not bad/egoistic people as some ptw are. And... well... there are times when I'm dependent on them for TI, being one of the top ftp, when I pass the bench mark for a new TI, few except those 4 are there (usually 0 to 3). This was true for TI81 in 1.0 and 37600 and 43200 in 2.0. Won't happen again now since we are at the "end" unless new TI are added but we still go together sometimes. (and they are willing to help out even when they are done, so they are in fact nice people, can't hate that)
drama.... comes elsewhere.... From people who don't know what humor is(we poke fun at each other, we all know that it is just friendly jibs, even across different group, but some ppl...) and/or people that have entitlement issues (in term of GNW packs, we aren't even doing those based on power, but on a rotation that's loosely tied to various participation/contribution so if you are active, you will get one every 2-3 weeks, but no, some people aren't active at all, joins 1-2 fight a week and expect packs frequently....) -
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Most people from my server and the merged one are gente to others, I don't see major drama and people usually take plunders with humor. Just think even if you lose you still get 15 coupons. If you dont wanna get plundered you can do just 4 S missions. But still you get 15 coupons you didnt have before if you decide to do the SS mission.
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- pixmarko On 2017-02-16 06:41:29
- Well this game still is less p2w than many others with similar concept. And lets be honest...there are not many "big whales" who spend **x $ on every servers, just a few. Most people if they're spending $ they're buying just gaara, maybe 1 time jonin medal or nowadays those monthly coupons. But still it's understanable because servers are not running for free, develepoers won't work for free etc. About complaining ? The thing is, people who complain the most will always complain, if You'll make server without any donations...you'll see them saying "aaa You don't work, You're little kiddo so You've more time to play than me, not fair etc." . You can easily check games where money gives You only cosmetic changes...You c*so meet there "complainers" and haters. This is how some people are, You can jump into their trap and start discussion with them which bring only negative energy...or You can ignore them and have fun with what You have. Same as in life, not everyone works in dream job, not everyone has many thing yet people can be happy with what they've. About hidden names in plunder im not against not for, so I'll be happy with any of this options. have a good day This post was last edited by mar***@gmail.com at 2017-2-16 06:42
I have tried many games, with really good concepts. Most of them are p2w, and no matter how nice the game is. It just sorta defeats the purpose to me, to actually play.If you know what I mean. I don't have anything against people who spend tons of money in games. Cuz if they spend it on games, they can't spend it on other stuff.
One game (and sorry for being offtopic) that I really enjoy and has been playing for years is League of legends. You can spend money on cosmetics, but no money will affect your skills and your game play, it all comes down to time and effort spent. The better you play, the higher rank you get and it really feels like an achievement and I get the feeling 'Yes I did it!', because you get better the more effort you put in, your personal skill no money can buy. That kind of feeling which I can never get in p2w game. -
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- Aoitori On 2017-02-16 07:34:16
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I have tried many games, with really good concepts. Most of them are p2w, and no matter how nice the game is. It just sorta defeats the purpose to me, to actually play.If you know what I mean. I don't have anything against people who spend tons of money in games. Cuz if they spend it on games, they can't spend it on other stuff.
One game (and sorry for being offtopic) that I really enjoy and has been playing for years is League of legends. You can spend money on cosmetics, but no money will affect your skills and your game play, it all comes down to time and effort spent. The better you play, the higher rank you get and it really feels like an achievement and I get the feeling 'Yes I did it!', because you get better the more effort you put in, your personal skill no money can buy. That kind of feeling which I can never get in p2w game.
I know what you mean, I play a game called "Runescape" and it is honestly the most relaxing game ever. It's just one big server, you can go your own pace leveling skills and you can do really well as long as your put the time and effort in. -
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- XzileTigerZ On 2017-02-16 08:23:28
- I know what you mean, I play a game called "Runescape" and it is honestly the most relaxing game ever. It's just one big server, you can go your own pace leveling skills and you can do really well as long as your put the time and effort in.
runescape is nowhere close to LoL as in the concept F2P. You can buy gold on the old one "illegal" but chances for you getting banned is low on that new one you could probably max everything within a day.
To the other guy Aiowhatever your name is "I don't have anything against people who spend tons of money in games. Cuz if they spend it on games, they can't spend it on other stuff." is some of the most * thing iv ever read as an argument/offend/diss to p2w players(but since you open the gate lets go on). Majority of the p2w (big spenders) could probably buy your brokeass life like nothing. You could look it (from a p2ws) perspective more like a hobby, i want to improve this and that on the character. i could go as far as assuming your one of those idiots that dream about a fresh new car and go get yourself indebt to get that car just to realise your fked up and down. 1. the car value goes down from the moment you buy it from the dealer 2. you still have your debt to pay. personly i drive a car worth 2-3k euro, iv spent over 10k (thats 5x the value of my car) on this game and i have 3 homes 250k/200k/90k. btw i dont have driverlicens, but WHENEVER i want to have the car that you * at night for just sitting on, i get it. Instead of spending 10-20hrs a day playing LoL you could work 8hrs a day and get paid just to afford not QQ about p2w people, if your not happy with ur salary go get education and get a nice paying job. NOTHING in life is free, if the price isnt in money then the interess always lays somewhere around the corner. -
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They got monkeys for brains and the game didn't belong to them. They just franchise it. And they are earning like mad. By hiring china kids for work and people using 4k usd to get sasuke susano every now and then.
Many more people are gonna quit when they cant get sage rank in arena. They cannot even put up the cross server function up for a week before releasing the reward shows how out of tune they are with the community.
There are 4 class and 70% of the people uses lightning and they say there is no need to nerf. Might as well take out earth then. When I go to bath, everyone is lightning. As if statues facing left in the waters. -
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- Belerephon On 2017-02-16 08:30:15
- Do convoys when the whales are steam rolling sage .
My thoughts exactly.
Well, if you're not in a group you can convoy during War too...
My server and the ones merged with it don't usually have fights between P2W and F2Ps... as far as I know. Generally, I think we're pretty nice to each other, but each server is different so I can't speak for everyone else.
Concerning what ser***@gmail.com said:
"There are 4 class and 70% of the people uses lightning and they say there is no need to nerf."
I said this before, and I'll say this again. If Lightning *really* needed a nerf, then I'd be able to get away with using my Lightning Sound Ninja teams without having my face being wiped on the floor.
The thing with metas is that once someone finds a way around it or there's a rebalance, all the lightning folks are gonna topple like flies. Just like how in the last update all the earth folks crumpled after everyone else got a buff.
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Most of my ninjas in ranked teams are f2p and still in top 5 in my server and top 30 in overall.
all you to do is play smarter, be patient and most of all depend on luck what you draw. When it comes to Sage Battle or Convoy I just left on Auto and play other game, then wait until the event is over.
I don't care if u get plundered or lost in battle, either way you will still receive some rewards for participating. It may be slower to get stronger, but u don't spend a cent on it.
and save your free coupons even if only 15 coupons from convoy, to spend it big when something you want is on event sales..
And that guy above who talked about car, so much triggered. I have cars and a house under my name i still dont do p2w. It's boring to do p2w. -
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