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On 2016-12-02 06:18:48Show All Posts
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how about you add chaos, poisoning, ignition on your team, it bypasses the shields and goes straight to the life or even immobile or sleep and dont let them give the shields in the first place.

take the shields from earth main and you better just delete the class all together, every class has strengths and weaknesses lear how to play with it and dont cry, or are you expecting to run a random team and still beat everyone? you can only do that if you really overpower the opponent and for that you need to pay.
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On 2016-12-02 19:55:28Show All Posts
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  • Sphere On 2016-12-02 18:39:51
  • How ironic that Lightning element is the counter to Earth in this game
It is damage wise, but pure damage alone will not work against earth main, but they will work on any other earth ninja out there including Hashirama, Neji and so forth. So in come the statuses.

But i do get your point, although if we think about it wind is the counter to lightning and you can easly use a lightning to shut down a wind team, you will take some damage but you can easly win if you have similar or slightly lower power.
Just dont expect to be over 4 levels and 6k power under them and still win.
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On 2016-12-02 23:47:22Show All Posts
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  • Kaigen On 2016-12-02 21:11:16
  • Stranger commentary on the play styles of the mains is that each one has a pretty direct strategy to counter its...erm...counter.

    Lightning's constant attacks and bloodthirsty lets it rip through wind clones like nothing.
    Earth's turtling shields is the antithesis to lightnings bursty early damage.
    Water's easy poison activation goes right through earth's shields.
    Fire can out-control water if talented to do so.
    Wind throws up a huge mount of * clones to absorb fire's control (that said wind still feels a bit weak in this match up since fire's AOE can just demolish a clone defense).
Never the truth was spoken this clearly :D

But it kinda makes sense if we think about it, imagine ninjas were real.

Now if you know before hand that you would be vulnerable to a certain c*ra nature, you would work on finding a way to bypass that weakness so you wouldnt die in battle.

In a way knowing yourself too well helps you overcome the weaknesses and become even stronger in general. Life lesson right there.

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On 2016-12-03 23:32:43Show All Posts
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do you complainers rely only on standard attacks to iniciate the combos? what do you think prompt mysteries are there for? they are garantee combo starters on the other ninjas in the earth main team, use
them to take them out.

if you have 2 ninjas with prompt mystery to start a combo, you might not combo turn one from standard attack, but you will from there on out and you can shut down earth team with ease if you attack the right ninja, worst case scenerio earth main will shield himself to a loss on turn 10 if you play it right and its a matter of time, not if you win or not.

same goes for fire main mirror, if he reflects the first debuff build your combo so that the shut down debuff is the second to go, problem solved.

for 2 months i ran a tobi+hinata+tsunade team that would use tobi's ignition first, that would be reflected to me and cured by tsunade passive, and hinata acupuncture second for the shut down and maybe even chaos from a possible crit from tsunade as third, had no problems with it. and i can probably make this team work for any main (for earth fire and lightning it works haventr tested the others but im sure they work with proper summon) think on what you are doing wrong before complaing, you can make almost anything work if you have all the purple summon and put some thought on it.
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On 2016-12-03 23:39:50Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-12-03 21:53:48
  • Because earth is supposed to be a tank, whats a tank without its shield right?
the shields arent the thing making them tanky, the immunity to combos is because it reduced the damage you can make on then by a lot, shields just add to it.

give me an earth main using full shields and no immunity to combos and i kill the main in 2 turns 3 tops if our power is similar or his even slightly higer. the thing is i never focus on the earth main to begin with, my concern is the ninjas around the earth main that may shut down my team before i can shut down his.
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On 2016-12-03 23:44:21Show All Posts
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  • Isane On 2016-12-03 23:37:01
  • Just wait for people to build full lightning teams with cee stripping all shield with root of warrior and darui and earth will be the least of your problems.
no it wont, stop darui from iniciating the combo (simple interrupt will do the job) kill Cee quick and enjoy.

root of warrior only prevents status for 2 turns it doesnt stop you from interrupting the mysteries, for a team like that go full damage to kill them before they do anything dangerous. its still a great team but you can manage them.
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On 2016-12-04 17:05:44Show All Posts
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  • 3robi On 2016-12-04 08:04:06
  • are you seriously? your comment just gave me cancer Earth mains should be deleted from the game stacking shields every attack and in sage battle you have to wait like 10 hours for a game to end??? fk earth mains
So your logic is that if you cant defeat the opponent in under lets say 5 turns the oponent is OP? Correct me if i'm wrong but that was the vibe i got from your post.

For a reason oasis has a 10 turn limit on the fights, that is how they balance the classes, and to avoid people from going full defense and heal up, dragging the fights. If you want less rounds get more power or deal with it, its how the game works.

Sorry about the cancer though, guess your medical expenses just went up <:3_60:>
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On 2016-12-04 19:50:19Show All Posts
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  • PraiseLuka On 2016-12-04 17:57:09
  • But it is annoying as heck in sage.
    Which is why I maintain that while fire is the most OP class, earth is the most annoying.
You said it yourself, annoying being the key word.

Not OP to the point it needs a nerf like some of this players are asking for.

Just because something is annoying doesnt mean its broken, the class was designed to, if you want, play like that, and that is the point i'm trying to get them to understand.

Asian games give you the tools to play the characters in a variety of ways and is up to the players to choose what to do with each class, a concept rarelly seen in western games where each class can only be properly played in 1 way and everything needs to be easy enough to play. well in this game you have the tools to play any class (wind being the underdog if you dont rank the power) to the extent you want, if the players choose to make earth a full tank they can, its up to the others to figure a way around it, it may be annoying but its the essence of the game adapt and evolve.

If any class can complain it's wind, but that doesnt mean the others need a nerf, it means that wind needs a boost.

I'm really tired of the same argument where if someone is weaker than eveyone else, then others need to be weaker as well, why bring everyone down when you can just take the weaker one and make them strong like the others?

And this apply to everything in life why normalize the standards by the lower standard possible to be "inclusive" of the weak that dont want to put in the work, when you can actually be inclusive by helping the ones with more difficulties to reach ever higher standards in life? This is trully what is dumbing down humanity and will lead to our doom eventually. And for a good satyre of this I recomend anyone to whatch the movie Idiocracy from 2006, and you will see some of this stuff is already happening today.

I for once want a better future to all not a certain doom.
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