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1＃ Go Tofor some reason if i use hinata's mystery all my opponents standard attacks will be focused on her for that turn, as expected.
but the unexpected part is that fire main sleeping standard atack will ignore hinata's mystery and atack other ninjas for that turn.
for some reason that standard atack ignores the targeting restrictions imposed by the mystery, which completely changes the pace and control abilities of the other ninjas since they might be put to sleep.
Yes hinata is in the first rank
the bug might be on the fire main standard attack and not on hinata's mystery
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Special standard attacks will ignore hinata's mystery, it's not just fire main. Kiba w/clone, kankuro w/ puppet, naruto w/ clone etc will also hit their regular target.
That said, it's very hard to discern which normal attacks actually does this. For the fire main, it does have the clause "The skill is not subject to the defense skills of opponent." Note that this skill being ninjutsu, the stat "defense" would not have affected it anyway, so it's probably talking about skills like neji, hinata, kimimro).
Kiba/Naruto have the word "certain hit" on their special normal attack thou I can't find any relevant keyword on the puppet users. -
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a standard attack is a standard attack.
the "special" standard attacks, would be the passives that replace a standard attack if certain situations prove available at the time:
- like naruto, his standard is to call 2 clones, if there are clones on the field he will then attack the opponent and cause low float
- gnw kika, his standard can do a triple combo and knockdown, if akamaru is on the field he will do knockdown without needing the combo (i guess? don't have him yet, normal kiba doesn't have the passive)
- kankaru and gnw kankaru, his standard causes poison, if he has a puppet it will do low float and ignition or poison depending on the version you use
- kakuzu, his standard attack has a chance to combo and cause high float, if a friendly unit died he will garantee a repulse instead
- maybe others that dont come to mind at the moment
this atacks bypass hinata's mystery because they are not standard attacks they are passives that replace the standard attacks, its not about key words as you mentioned
the fire main standard attack doesn't fit this discription and so it shouldn't bypass hinata's mystery that clearly states and i quote "if standing in the first rank, it will be the only target of the enemy's standard attack" -
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- Test Ninja On 2016-11-18 02:11:19
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a standard attack is a standard attack.
the "special" standard attacks, would be the passives that replace a standard attack if certain situations prove available at the time:
- like naruto, his standard is to call 2 clones, if there are clones on the field he will then attack the opponent and cause low float
- gnw kika, his standard can do a triple combo and knockdown, if akamaru is on the field he will do knockdown without needing the combo (i guess? don't have him yet, normal kiba doesn't have the passive)
- kankaru and gnw kankaru, his standard causes poison, if he has a puppet it will do low float and ignition or poison depending on the version you use
- kakuzu, his standard attack has a chance to combo and cause high float, if a friendly unit died he will garantee a repulse instead
- maybe others that dont come to mind at the moment
this atacks bypass hinata's mystery because they are not standard attacks they are passives that replace the standard attacks, its not about key words as you mentioned
the fire main standard attack doesn't fit this discription and so it shouldn't bypass hinata's mystery that clearly states and i quote "if standing in the first rank, it will be the only target of the enemy's standard attack"
I agree with u. Fire man sleep the only one who can ignore her mys and yes more n more stronger for fire :loveliness: ;P -
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- Test Ninja On 2016-11-18 22:52:18
- bumping it up so it wont be forgotten
In your lineup is Hinata the only one on the frontline? I personally haven't this issue with her since I place everyone behind her if I use her. Her Trigrams skill usually deflects the sleep as well for me. I say usually because there are a few occurrences where standards slip through. -
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- On 2016-11-19 13:14:30
- In your lineup is Hinata the only one on the frontline? I personally haven't this issue with her since I place everyone behind her if I use her. Her Trigrams skill usually deflects the sleep as well for me. I say usually because there are a few occurrences where standards slip through.
that doesn't matter, unless he have another taunt up front (like kankuro puppet, neji etc), all normal standard attack will go toward hinata
That attack of fire main is an exception. Whether or not it SHOULD be an exception is another matter altogether, but what he describe is the current interaction of hinata mystery and fire main sleeping standard -
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Fire Main's 3rd standard attack isn't the only one that can ignore "Taunt". Lightning Mains's 1st standard also does this.
It's another one of those "poor skill descriptions" that for some reason still exist. That "defensive skills of the opponent" is actually referring to the "Taunt" skill that is the 2nd effect of Hinata's mystery, the 1st being the high evasion. Any Ninja on the front that has Taunt will be the sole target of enemy standrad attacks EXCEPT the special standard attacks already mentioned and attacks like Fire Main's 3rd standard and Lightning Main's 1st.
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- KenR On 2016-11-19 15:16:56
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Fire Main's 3rd standard attack isn't the only one that can ignore "Taunt". Lightning Mains's 1st standard also does this.
It's another one of those "poor skill descriptions" that for some reason still exist. That "defensive skills of the opponent" is actually referring to the "Taunt" skill that is the 2nd effect of Hinata's mystery, the 1st being the high evasion. Any Ninja on the front that has Taunt will be the sole target of enemy standrad attacks EXCEPT the special standard attacks already mentioned and attacks like Fire Main's 3rd standard and Lightning Main's 1st.
so the ignoring on this 2 skills are related to the taunt? i always tought they ignored the opponents defense and resistance.
if that is the case the skills are working correctly, but the wording of the skills should clearly say it ignores Taunt and not defensive skills, because that would mean ignoring stuff like super armor, neji's and hinata's dodge, kimimaro first atack dodge and so forth, wich they dont at least not always -
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