I'd like to confirm on the call Guy option (if anyone has tried it), does it only bring your training "phase" to the 4th Guy stage? No other innate benefits right?

Correct, I did it once.

Spent 40mil, only got 2 reds. Bad luck overall ~

:Q

Consider yourself lucky, I spent 50m & got only 1 red, after the 1st 12m :lol

For the Initiative chakaras, I guess only shop 1's exist in this version yet.
on CN they usually drops in all quality's, yes... even greens~

Theres nothing lucky about it lol. This game is made for profit. Like in this lucky stars wheel event where u always get ningendo pack in first 10 spins so u think u are lucky and continue to waste ur money ;p 8 Inner gates is no different. U have alot of coins coz u already lvled ur gear etc so u spend them on this and recive maybe 1 red and then u want more and spend cash to get more lulz. It's sad they dont think about f2p guys. They would make more money that way.

And f2p players are the content for paying players pretty much so if you look after your f2p players and they make up the numbers for your game to have a healthy population.
That being said if you do all your daily events you shouldnt struggle for coins. Its interesting that in China you only need to fill out 1 grid that applies to all your characters so it takes 4x as many coins to fill out 4 grids here im not sure how i feel about that yet. On one hand its a giant money sink needing that much more coins on other hand it lets you customise your secondary stats more i guess but someone posted in strategy saying secondary stats dont work so i dont know.

It may take more coins, but in the long run it's actually better because you can customize each ninja, which is actually better.

Assuming the secondary stats work yes but someone said in strategy like this might not be the case. But i havent read the chinese thread about it yet.

Just because 1 person says it doesn't work, doesn't mean you should believe. Like when I told you Tobi wasn't broken, 90% of the thread told you Tobi wasn't broken, but when 1 person said he was you were all on board for it.

Don't believe 1 person until proof is shown.

Ill tell you what i think once i translated the chinese thread on it. Ill remain optimistic for now since im trying to stack some nin *ion so if its effect is minimal ill be dissapointed.

I'll be very sad if that's the case, I stacked a lot of it.

Pretty much same here i stacked lots of control ( purple lv 6 or 7 rune ) on tank to try to avoid sleep and put lots of *ion on my dps with crit on tsunade for higher chaos chance.

I don't even know what control does

Its ice i think? its supposed to make it easier to apply status effects or resist them the way i understand it like maybe resist sleep?

I've never resisted anything like that though, even with the control stat.

I got 4-7 reds so yeah but it's really RNG based.

Maybe you need like a LOT of it for it to make any difference? I know crit combo initiative work for sure but not sure about injury control and *ions.

Hm, *ion probably breaks through their resistance and defence, but not sure about control and injury. Maybe injnury reduces healing

Injury increases outgoing and reduces incoming crit dmg but i cant tell if it makes a difference.

Oh, I guess I'll test it later.