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On 2016-11-03 11:42:53Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So I'd like to hear suggestions from other players on what to do about this. We originally had 5 groups that participated and the one group broke up. However, most of the powerful members of the group went to the strongest group on our server, which we were finally getting close to having actual competition with. So now the powerful group is basically untouchable again and honestly, it's making me want to quit this game. War is a huge part of this game and it was something I looked forward to. Now it's just a day to get your face smashed into the ground and leave our *s ripe for the kicking. Look, I could complain about how the pay to win people have just taken over the game, but that's not really gonna solve anything. So, if any of you have any ideas on how to make war fun again, I'd really like to hear. Oh and for clear up, there are 4 groups now. One is "weaker" th*l three, two are close in power, and one just dominates everything.
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On 2016-11-03 11:44:37Show this Author Only
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Just wait for the server merges.
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On 2016-11-03 11:45:27Show this Author Only
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ia always the same in every single game....
1 group can dominate every time...
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On 2016-11-03 12:00:40Show this Author Only
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Don't go into war thinking that you're gonna win, then. Until server merges happen, and god knows when that's going to be, you're not going to win, especially if you're as outmatched as you say.

Think of it as a way to get free group coins, group contributions, and on Saturday, free seal scroll packs. That's the best you can do.

Although, I have to say, jumping ship and abandoning your group, especially as one of the strongest players, is a pretty *my thing to do.
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On 2016-11-03 12:05:57Show this Author Only
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you have 2 choice basically.
1. join the strongest group
2. stay in your group. and formulate a plan with you group mate.

either way, both of them will bore you at some point.
1. you will get bore because you always win and feel like there no good fight anymore.
2. you will get bore because you lose too often that it make you sick.

your choice though.

oh wait, there is a 3rd and 4th choice actually. you said that there are 4 group that active. if you want beat the strongest group, why not disband the weakest 2 groups and join the second powerful group?? but again, there are consequence from this option.
the 4th is what you already state, quit the game and be happy :lol :victory:
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On 2016-11-03 12:29:10Show this Author Only
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  • XYZDream On 2016-11-03 12:05:57
  • you have 2 choice basically.
    1. join the strongest group
    2. stay in your group. and formulate a plan with you group mate.

    either way, both of them will bore you at some point.
    1. you will get bore because you always win and feel like there no good fight anymore.
    2. you will get bore because you lose too often that it make you sick.

    your choice though.

    oh wait, there is a 3rd and 4th choice actually. you said that there are 4 group that active. if you want beat the strongest group, why not disband the weakest 2 groups and join the second powerful group?? but again, there are consequence from this option.
    the 4th is what you already state, quit the game and be happy :lol :victory:
I've come to far. I realized I can't quit and let my group down. It just *s that players from the disbanded team went to the strongest team. We really could of had a nice balanced war. I just hope the server merge will fix this so we don't have to play 3 accounts just to keep our groups alive.
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On 2016-11-03 12:40:00Show this Author Only
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  • NoobityBoobity On 2016-11-03 12:29:10
  • I've come to far. I realized I can't quit and let my group down. It just *s that players from the disbanded team went to the strongest team. We really could of had a nice balanced war. I just hope the server merge will fix this so we don't have to play 3 accounts just to keep our groups alive.
Yeh it *s but on the plus side you got rid of them early, better play with good people then strong people.

If you are on good terms with some of the other groups on your server you could invite them to join you, a lot of small groups might really consider it cause i imagine they are strugling with no convoy partners and dead group chat etc.
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On 2016-11-03 13:03:54Show this Author Only
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my server is same. one strongest group can fill all lands with 2 or 3 sets. i think 2nd group barely fill all lands. and rest is just 3 or 7 ppl joining for rewards.
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On 2016-11-03 14:02:19Show this Author Only
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It honestly is upsetting that the group that disbanded, most members went on to join the already most powerful group instead of spreading out and trying to make things even. However, many people like being in the more powerful groups and would rather be in a winning group than trying to help other groups become more competitive to compete for the top. That's just how things are unfortunately, and whenever server merges happen, things will liven up.
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On 2016-11-03 14:22:45Show this Author Only
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That happens to us too. There's a top group, then 2 groups equal in strength(I am in one of those), and a group who is always the fourth in rank. But because we are not giving up, we're winning against the top group now, two streaks guys :D
Just don't give up, you may lose now, but tomorrow is another story. The only thing that you can do is get stronger while there's no war. Then give your best shot at strategy when the moment of truth comes. :D
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On 2016-11-03 14:27:22Show this Author Only
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  • dlp2323 On 2016-11-03 14:02:19
  • It honestly is upsetting that the group that disbanded, most members went on to join the already most powerful group instead of spreading out and trying to make things even. However, many people like being in the more powerful groups and would rather be in a winning group than trying to help other groups become more competitive to compete for the top. That's just how things are unfortunately, and whenever server merges happen, things will liven up.
That's the sad truth nowadays. They care less about competing .. all that matters to them is winning ...
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On 2016-11-03 14:34:57Show this Author Only
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What Server you on hopefully you get merged with S7 it feels like that at the moment hear as The Group I'm in We losing members every week from in activeness and we almost lost to the NO.2 Group on are server so hopefully the Merge happens.:loveliness: O yeah also man hold it down don't quit enjoy the game if you can just gotta Patient bud.
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On 2016-11-03 17:21:57Show this Author Only
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Honestly, it happens to me too.

But it's okay, in the stronger group, players usually get seal packs waay longer than the weaker group due to the huge participation. Packs have to be rotated even further before one can get their hands on it.

Like XYZDream stated, just think GNW as a way to get free goodies! :P
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On 2016-11-03 21:09:59Show this Author Only
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Maybe a bit off topic, but had to complain about the groups matching. We have a simmilar situation to what OP said. We have 1 dominating group, 3 groups simmilar power and 2 small groups with 3 ppl with multiple accounts that manage to qualify for saturday war. The issue is that all the 'serious groups' end up in the same bracket, that means that the dominating group goes to the finals, but the problem is that the 'inactive' groups get a free pass to the finals and get almost max amount of packs that go to 'waste' on 3 ppl in group, when other struggling groups would benefit more from them. It's not enough that we can't beat the top group in anyway either of the 3 competing groups, but there is seemingly no way for either of those groups to get at least 2nd place.. it happened 5 times in a row so i doubt it's a coincidence
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On 2016-11-04 00:08:41Show this Author Only
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Yes i agree the GNW matching is super rigged. Any competition should have a form of seeding and GNW does basically the opposite of that. That is just pointless and I just noticed its not even based on qualifier PTs but group level so thats even more nonsensical. I had sent a ticket in but all i got was will forward your suggestion to developer but it is and will be a serious problem sooner or later especially even more so when servers merge and the top groups from each server meet each other and knock out one another leaving them no chance for legend packs.
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On 2016-11-04 00:14:16Show this Author Only
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I just join for the group points.
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On 2016-11-04 01:12:29Show this Author Only
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  • eugeneaalee@gma On 2016-11-04 00:08:41
  • Yes i agree the GNW matching is super rigged. Any competition should have a form of seeding and GNW does basically the opposite of that. That is just pointless and I just noticed its not even based on qualifier PTs but group level so thats even more nonsensical. I had sent a ticket in but all i got was will forward your suggestion to developer but it is and will be a serious problem sooner or later especially even more so when servers merge and the top groups from each server meet each other and knock out one another leaving them no chance for legend packs.
I'm not really convinced that group lvl has something to do. One of the 'inactive' groups i mentioned is higher lvl th*, cuz it was popular before, but ppl left it and it's being kept alive by a few individuals. And as i said before it always gets a free pass to finals. All the active, almost full groups end up on one side with the unbeatable top group, and the rest 2 groups that miraculously qualify for war end up on the other side. It's not about the packs that much as it is with motivation. Explain to our guildies how we always get knocked out in 1st or 2nd round with 30-35 participants but the group that every1 knows has 3-8 ppl participating gets to finals every time. Frustrating.. And 1000 points will keep u satisfied for so long...
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On 2016-11-04 01:50:45Show this Author Only
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Keep struggling if you want competition. Competition doesn't mean, you need to win. Trying to win means competition.

And if fun means winning for you, then you can join them. My group doesnt win GNW, usually dont even get in the semi final, but I am still having fun.
And KusunoGintoki, I understand your point. Same thing happens at us too.
Last night we fought a group who always in top8, more like top 5-6 (let say they are 5th) in power and activity with a lot lvl80 members and 20-30k power ones. And beat them, with they only getting 10 point.
And after when the second round start we get the strongest group as enemy, and this group, the 6th group, the 7th group and the 8th group in power all gets free wins, 3 of them even without any fight. The last one gets max point after 5 minute and we need to strugle to even get in the Saturday fight with our first round 59 point and what we can somehow take from the stronges group.
Honeslty pairings makes no sense to me, sometimes feel like hitting the one who programmed it.
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On 2016-11-05 10:47:16Show this Author Only
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  • DraconusNex On 2016-11-03 12:00:40
  • Don't go into war thinking that you're gonna win, then. Until server merges happen, and god knows when that's going to be, you're not going to win, especially if you're as outmatched as you say.

    Think of it as a way to get free group coins, group contributions, and on Saturday, free seal scroll packs. That's the best you can do.

    Although, I have to say, jumping ship and abandoning your group, especially as one of the strongest players, is a pretty *my thing to do.
You're absolutely right. Thanks for killing my despair and bringing my hope back. I needed that :)
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On 2016-11-05 10:48:34Show this Author Only
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  • Kage Sound On 2016-11-03 14:34:57
  • What Server you on hopefully you get merged with S7 it feels like that at the moment hear as The Group I'm in We losing members every week from in activeness and we almost lost to the NO.2 Group on are server so hopefully the Merge happens.:loveliness: O yeah also man hold it down don't quit enjoy the game if you can just gotta Patient bud.
I'm on S16 Kankuro
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