We run a system where members vote for the people they want to get packs its works like a charm.

Most votes = Legendary, secondary most = Hero, And the third most gets Elite ones.

Noone can get a pack 2 weeks in a row and if you have gotten a legendary week 1 and still get lots of votes you will maximum get a Hero because its unfair if you get a legendary everytime you are capable of getting a pack.

It promotes activity + sociability + helping out (since most people vote for whoever helped them the most in the previous week)

Have been using it for a long time and everyone is extremly satisfied with it.

Only real thing you gotta keep track of as a leader is Votes and a small list of who got what pack what week.

Personally been doing:

Participated in all 4 GNW is entry.
Must be a daily donor/high contribution. (More points if they actually do convoy/plunder/trials)
Rotate packs so no one gets legendary more than once every 3 weeks. (I keep an excel doc)
Personally ask whoever might be close to rare nin draw to get them their next strong ninja.
Prioritize stronger people with better packs.

It's a hassle and there's so many factors that come into play. I lead a 90 member group on S8, and last week only 2 were "unhappy" with pack distributions. You can't please everyone.

A lot of groups do the RNG thing too, but that only turns off more of the stronger players who believe they contribute more.

All in all, if they're going to leave they will leave. Try asking them their opinion on distributing- most of the time it's worse and only really benefits them.

There is no obvious answer, people prefer different ways, some like by donations some like by power or attendance and etc. Pick one that you feel best represents your group and * with it, people who won't like it might go but people who stay are probably staying for good and you might get new people from other groups who find your system more appealing.

We also do it by spreadsheet like the guy above, but only by gnw attendance, show up to fight 5 times and you get 5 times more seal scrolls then guy who only shows up once in the long run. Imo it's the most fair and it encourages weaker/newer people to show up for wars. Sure some bigger p2w players won't like this system since they might feel they are contributing more then weaker players but that's the direction we chose to go.

based on my perspective, people do love packs, but there are some points to be made, are the people unhappy the jonin medal ones? if so why? packs can be really motivating for some people who are low on power, or low on level, or they just want couple seals, i do point out the fact not everyone is gonna be happy, indeed, this week i didnt receive a pack, cuz i received one last week, am i happy, yeah i am, cuz above all, rotating the packs among all members is imo, the best choice a leader can do, cuz you'll be growing as a group, not individuals, for what matters GNW is a team fight, not 1v1, if i have to ditch a 20k power player over a 10k power player i would do it, i rather have someone helpful and socially active, than a selfish player who is unhappy about packs, and their rotation. Groups should be about playing together and not bring out a few players, that think they are entitled cuz they're the stronger in the group.

I run an excell sheet and i keep log who had what pack and how many battles people partiicpated in people who participated in more battles get packs earlier but eventually everyone will get a pack assuming they participating in at least 4 battles overall.

There really isn't any good solution currently for western players. The pack distribution has been made in the chinese market that is always something different than the western market is used to. There has been some solutions suggested like 1-2 seals for everyone participating in the war. That would be a good solution to solve this case but we are still waiting for this thing to get solved.

We also tried the contribution and rotation phase. But there wasn't actually time to get these going since GNW participants already dropped quite a lot. Servers only have 6 guilds actually participating in the wars anymore with really low participant count. Rotating is really hard to do in these cases :D

The system we have for our group is basically a bid system. You get "points" for participating in War and extra points for contributing and increasing your overall power. Example from last week - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18OokBvGEq00K4sJyApcE8EcZ2CX8ez-VDBbcVNFJdok/edit#gid=1409072031

We use a system that rewards donation and participation.

Every participation grants you 1 point and every donation over 200 gives 1 point as well.

It rewards active people more, which is what we want.
Nobody ever complains about it, because its very clear and in my opinion fair.

I believe there's no perfect system, there are many factors to consider and someone is always unhappy lol. We tried a pure rotation system first but people were unhappy, it took too much time to get a pack as the guild kept growing.

The current system is based on both contribution and partecipation to be eligible for a pack. For example, partecipating 5 times and donating a minimum of 100 daily allows you to partecipate in the legendary pack rotation, partecipating less than 3 times excludes you from ever receiving anything. Sorry, I don't remember the details too well as i'm one of those that'll never receive a pack. ;P
It encourages partecipation and ensures that the top players get more packs, more often i guess :)

Im thinking if we get merged it will be probably even worse as some servers have pay2win groups and some dont so some groups are going to go from regularly being 1-3 to 4-8 that wont help morale.

I would rather be 4-8 because that means there is at least 4-8 groups doing gnw lol.

We utilize a DKB loot system - that way, everybody gets a chance to get a pack.

But, of course, this only applies to those who actually attend the GNW.

looks like GNW rewards is going to be a big problem for everyone everytime
For the answer i think rotaion of rewards based on the GNW participation or group contribution or anything that others agree on iis the best thing one can do in these situations.

I normally just give away Hero/Elite packs by using a random list generator. I put everyone with 3-5 rounds in it and just draw it so everyone has a fair chance. Then I put the people who did get one in a Google doc as well as people who didn't. If they got one they don't get added the next week, if they didn't they get added a second time the next week.

Legendary packs I let everyone vote for who did the best. Of course I include myself in all of this so I don't get a pack every week. People tend to get mad about the leader always getting a pack.

this is a good strategy to give out packs. you're a fair leader~ :D
i hope others would follow your way, so it c*so help others (like low levels) grow and be more active.

I'm a leader

The way I do is a lotto. Players who were the most active in the current war (our server's war usually consist of a total of 4 battles across both days) are put into a raffle. Players who have won a legendary box before can't win again unless there is nobody in the raffle who hasn't gotten one. Then I just proceed to raffle out the boxes. If a player didn't get a box, the next time they are in the raffle they get an extra entry.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15k7dg46b6bmT8q9zBwSIweDNXyw2eG3HzbJdWU9p4B0/edit#gid=176491935
this is awesome :)
contributions: convoys, plunders, donations, donations.
and gnw participations

I'm a leader~
Everyone in the group knows(unless really new...like added today) that if you have 3+ participations...you have a chance of getting a pack.
First Legendary pack I ever gave was to one of the members who had participated all 5times possible that GNW AND had a huge load of donations/contributions rivaling what I had at the time. Thought he deserved it.
Next week I got 2 Legendary packs. Gave one to myself and gave the 2nd to a different member that had done amazingly by participating all 5 times(like they should to be worthy) and had increased his donations/contributions by a large amount in that 1 week.

I don't always get a Legendary Pack and no one gets to keep getting one weekly.
If another member participates the maximum amount of times and has not yet received one...he/she will instantly be given a Legendary Pack after that GNW.

If members that have received one before are the only ones eligible(max participations) then I choose the 1 that has received the least Legendary packs to get 1.

I keep my own list of people and their alt accounts as well as their activity rate(helpful in group/chat, donations/contributions, participation in GNW). So after the legendary pack is all done I move on to the others.

I don't bother with anyone who only participated 2times. Sometimes I don't even give everyone who participated 3times a pack. These people are put on a list to where I bump them up a level the next week.
Would have gotten nothing = get a pack
Would have gotten 5pack = 8pack
Would have gotten an 8pack = Legendary Pack(this one sadly hasn't happened lol)

So basically...I try to keep it fair. Though it can get harder to do so, but as a leader it's the right thing to do.
If you participate you will be rewarded for your help in the GNW.
If you don't want to participate then you don't get rewarded and I have more Packs to give out to others that do want them :D Easy as that.

Legendary pack is something I don't try to get for myself...because I prefer it to be a reward to those members that try harder than anyone else. I prefer getting the 8pack of seals lol though I have given myself a 5pack before...I missed a few rounds of the ninja war...ended up with 3/5participations.

Even had members saying I should have taken the Legendary Pack anyways because I'm the leader...that's not right though! lol

Have to agree there's no easy way. There's too few packs, and most people just focus on when they last got a pack so they aren't aware of the 30 other people waiting their turn. Which they shouldn't have to be, but it's just another thing that makes packs the biggest hassle of GNW to me.

I'm a senior in my group, on a server that averages 4-6 groups in GNW. In general we're not a dead server, but the population is dwindling at a worrying rate, and even the active groups have issues with participation.

Because of all that, we encourage people to be there on Wednesday for the group coins etc, but it's ignored when deciding packs and we reassure them its okay if they have to miss. We do keep track in a google doc who's gotten packs and when, and try to rotate so you don't get more then a pack every three weeks or so.

The upper ranks that help with strategy for GNW decide on packs (so the seniors, leader, and chunk of the anbu) with a balance of who did a lot on Sat or just in gen for the guild, f2p and lower level but growing players, and who hasn't gotten a pack in a while that was there on Sat. Deciding which pack, we'll often contact the person to find out how far they are from getting a ten pull/what would be most useful for them.

We try to keep people happy, but when people start asking on Wednesday for packs, you're not going to make everyone happy.