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[ Suggestions ] Balancing Fire Mains Ideas [Mirror Return]

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On 2016-10-24 03:28:59Show All Posts
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Lol fire main is not broken. Take away those two things, change it in any way they become borderline useless. Like when I say useless , I mean like * they become not viable. Every main gets a counter to the mirror. Water can just heal that debuff right off, in fact if running a poison tai build you have nothing to worry about all they will mirror is poison and get poisoned again. If using earth are you serious, stack that shield up and just play smart. Do not cc right of the bat, just bait that mirror, same with wind main. Lightning mains do not even get phased, tai build to the rescue. Really there does not need to be any balanced. To answer your question china doesnt nerf fire main because they become like the second less used class in the game and you will know why soon.
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On 2016-10-24 05:06:06Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-10-24 03:49:57
  • so what you're telling me is.

    you didn't look at the suggested change and continued to reply because you believe i'm a scrublord. amirite?

    FM. Gaara GWN. Naruto. Neji 2*/
    please. help me beat that team.
    that's not using another FM team.
    or game mechanics messing up cast times.
No I looked at the suggested change. I read your whole thread even and still again I still have to explain what others have already said or why the scrubs scream nerf fire main.

Everything a fire main has can be heavily punished. Mirror against a smart player can be heavily punished. If I know a fire main is running mirror, i would bait the mirror and there are many ninjas capable of baiting this passive. Trust me mirror passive does not turn you into a god, I run it and against smart players, they will use it against you. Next death mirage, that skill does not make you op. In fact fire mains give up a lot of defense just for that skill. Initiative turns to * too because of that skill. Now i will point out counters.

Azure is a heavy counter to fire mains genjutsu mirror and death mirage but just as she is a counter, he is a counter to her healing and such.

Earth main is probably the only non counter to fire main, they always leave themselves open to cc, but again with higher ini they can interrupt and most earth mains run a damage interrupt team with a debuffer.

Lightning main should not even be concerned, you are like the king of killing fire mains.

Wind main this is like a counter to fire mains too because again wind mains use clones. Clones if rng kick in take the cc mirrored since the mirror is kind of rng.

You c*so add a mirror user to counter them. Again this class is very balanced , in fact all classes are balanced.
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On 2016-10-24 06:28:09Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-10-24 06:13:52
  • didn't know death mirage puts u behind in the speed tier.
    figured passives, prompts, formation placements. in that order.

    like the scrublord i am, what i need are sources.
    links to how battle mechanics work. mainly who goes first. aside from the prompts taking priority. and formation placements.

    what else factors in?

    the battle mechanics could use a few touches tho. playing manual and trying to interupt the enemy legit relies on pre-spamming your skills and pray it registers in time. that along with selecting your targets. it's rough.

    at least give 1s T.T

    but please, provide factual proofs. something scrublords like i, can go and read for ourselves.
    stuff like LMs are the kings of killing FMs are opinions. even though i agree with it.

    convince me why Mirror Return should not change.
    convince me how FM, Gaara GWN, Naruto, 2* Neji can be beat.
    then you therefore admit that it's the strongest lineup in the game.

    and i don't believe that. so please.

    give me an opposing team, THAT's NOT A FM LINEUP, that can win against my listed FM lineup.
    go ahead and be creative. just listing a lineup so i can compare would be great.

    and don't go giving me RNGesus BS. Mirror Return doesn't need to magically reflect into the right targets. the part is bound to happen. so what? both sides pray equally for RNGesus to be in their favor. but it's tilted in FM's favor it's ridiculous via

    outspeeding Neji? like how is that even possible, please explain.
    and besides, who aside from EMs, would put a disruptor in their first ranked slot?! as far as i'm concern'd the only reliable tanky disruptor capable of filling that slot is Neji.

    so.
    bring up a lineup capable of dealing with my theorycrafted FM lineup.
    remember, you can't use a FM. that defeats the purpose of this threads actual debate. Mirror Return
    edit: bolds for added effect.
    This post was last edited by ch3***@gmail.com at 2016-10-24 06:18
I will give you what you wanted. The reason why all fire mains should hate light mains is because we light mains run a buff team. Like by the start of the battle i am running 120% in buffed up damage plus root of warrior which makes me immune to cc for two rounds. Then if you use warrior killing intent , if you kill said fire main with just again mystery skill it resets, so a spam after spam. actually withing a first round, i dont see a fire main alive anymore unless he is running shield buffs which means round 2 my next character will have him down without targeting on him.

Azure fang has auto heal. SO if you cc like anyone of her ninjas she will heal it right of.Then why death mirage doesnt work on her.Most azure run a ignite/poison tai build. If fire main mirrors he will mirror a poison which your main will heal. If he uses death mirage he will be hit with a silence, a ignite, a poison again. really choose your choice you cant wipe out the debuffs long enough.

Earth mains, they really have no chance.They leave themselves open unless they use someone like Gakido,Neji,Hinata or some debuffer cleaner. If they have a cleaner, they have abetter chance.If they have interrupt,cc, and a cleaner there chances greatly increase.

Wind main. Clones set up. Those clones are op, most wind mains run a rasengan setup, and cc mostly at the end of their combo.So he can mirror all that all he wants.It might just hit your clones (rng comes in).

My experience ,I have tried every main.They are all balanced. They might have thier annoying aspects but there is a counter to all of them.Light main with its damage is really squishy, so is windmain and running a setup for her takes brains.Azure has no damage coming her way and must rely on tactics.Fire must rely on his wacky skills.
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