Reply
Views: 3840 | Replies: 11
[ Lineup ] [Help] Water Main - Survival Trial

 [

Copy Link

]

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-23 00:39:36Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
1# Go To
http://puu.sh/rRO7E/617fd5addc.png
Above are all the ninja I own. Along with my level 41 Water Main.
I shall be getting Kabuto from the vendor very soon as well.

Here are the talents available at level 41, as it's easy to forget when things unlocked once you have them all;
http://puu.sh/rROgn/2cf151a7e9.png

I managed to get to the end of the 12th fight (somehow) a couple days ago, I'm not entirely sure how I managed it. I've been having great difficulty geting up to the 12th fight.

Could some more experienced Water Mains share some advice, 3 team lineups to get me as far as possible and perhaps some advice on which team to use when?
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 11
  • Posts: 118
On 2016-10-23 01:30:10Show this Author Only
2#
Okay first key is to never use your main until you ABSOLUTELY have to. The second you put your main into a team to pass something, the power that the system bases your next opponent on jumps way up.
It would help to know what your main team is so we don't produce line ups using those ninjas.
I never use my main team until the 12th fight at the very least, sometimes not at all or not until the second breakthrough.

Specifically, I like to have a very tanky team, a heavy control team, and damager team.
The tanky team I use for my general survivals. The heavy control teams I use when facing a lightening main or anyone doing insane combos/high damage with single mystery.
The damager team is only for easy fights or if I have to sacrifice a team to damage another team before I fight them near the end.

On top of that, you should always retreat if rng isn't going your way or if you lose a ninja the first time you try a fight. Then you can rework it to try and save that character, or use a different team to do it.

It will also get a ton easier for you after the lvl 50 elite instance when you get Gai. Team Gai is a good team as either a control or damage team in survival.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-23 01:38:05Show this Author Only
3#
  • Nara Temari On 2016-10-23 01:30:10
  • Okay first key is to never use your main until you ABSOLUTELY have to. The second you put your main into a team to pass something, the power that the system bases your next opponent on jumps way up.
    It would help to know what your main team is so we don't produce line ups using those ninjas.
    I never use my main team until the 12th fight at the very least, sometimes not at all or not until the second breakthrough.

    Specifically, I like to have a very tanky team, a heavy control team, and damager team.
    The tanky team I use for my general survivals. The heavy control teams I use when facing a lightening main or anyone doing insane combos/high damage with single mystery.
    The damager team is only for easy fights or if I have to sacrifice a team to damage another team before I fight them near the end.

    On top of that, you should always retreat if rng isn't going your way or if you lose a ninja the first time you try a fight. Then you can rework it to try and save that character, or use a different team to do it.

    It will also get a ton easier for you after the lvl 50 elite instance when you get Gai. Team Gai is a good team as either a control or damage team in survival.
Well THAT explains why it's been so difficult to get further, even though I managed to get 12 beaten before. I was unaware it upped the difficulty based on the previous match.

My main team for stuff is Gaara/Kakashi/Sakura. However if there's a better way to set up for the survival I'm quite happy to have that team split up.Also, since the team is based on immobilising enemies to block mysteries, it might not be worth keeping together since the initiative system is * in Survival.

I've been retreating when RNG *s, but it wasn't enough to beat the buffed enemies from having used my main.

Gai? Do you mean Guy perhaps? I assume the level 50 EI give you his frags as a clearance reward?
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 4
  • Posts: 101
On 2016-10-23 04:24:38Show this Author Only
4#
My strategy is to first, not use my main (save her for later fights, 10-12), and start with a team of 3 star Sasuke, Sakura, 3 star Naruto, and Tenten (I realize, you don't have 3 star Sasuke or Naruto yet, but this team only works with them being 3 star). They should be able to get through at least the first 6-9(maybe) fights and not die, if you utilize them correctly.

Of course, you c*ways use the classic Team 7 (Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke)
(If Sasuke dies, you can replace him with Hinata, although you won't get as much combos/dmg done.)
The second team, I use, when all/some fall (by now, you should be at least at 6-9th level, 9th preferably.) You can now use your main, Hinata, Kakashi, and Kabuto(since you mentioned you were going to get him. He's pretty useful.)



With skill set of:


These 2 teams get me through, but of course, I'll provide a couple more in case your some ninjas from your second team die.

For this team, in case Kabuto dies, cause the AI DOES aim for Kabuto frequently.
(Not alot of combos, I'm afraid, but it does decent damage, and has immobile, paralysis, and ignite. So nice, amirite?)

Skillset being:

Basically any combo will cause immobile to your opponent, isn't that nice? Kakashi will cause paralysis with Lightning Blade, and Ignite with Fire Ball Jutsu. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to utilize Hinata's Sealing Point Palm Strike (cause acupuncture), so until you get to lvl 55 and get a summon, Hinata's acupuncture will have to wait. :C


Another one, if Kakashi dies, cause holy heck, he is pretty squishy. (As well as Kabuto)
(At this point, combos is not always power, but status effects are. Got Immobile, Poison, and more poison. Plus heals from Main and Karin)

Skillset of:


Also, if you upgrade Temari and Kankuro to 3 stars, you c*so use them too. Obviously the Sand Siblings would work well together.
(Gaara is a good shield, plus Kankuro's puppet.)

Skillset: (For poison, immobile, and healing)


Another skillset:



Well, if you do count them all up, you'd realize the total is 13 ninjas, but these are all suggestions, especially the Sand Sibling team. Hopefully this helps you in Survival Trial! Plus, you can retreat as much as you want if something goes wrong, don't be afraid to abuse that opportunity! C:

This post was last edited by TomatoKat at 2016-10-23 04:28
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-23 06:37:31Show this Author Only
5#
  • TomatoKat On 2016-10-23 04:24:38
  • My strategy is to first, not use my main (save her for later fights, 10-12), and start with a team of 3 star Sasuke, Sakura, 3 star Naruto, and Tenten (I realize, you don't have 3 star Sasuke or Naruto yet, but this team only works with them being 3 star). They should be able to get through at least the first 6-9(maybe) fights and not die, if you utilize them correctly.

    Of course, you c*ways use the classic Team 7 (Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke)
    (If Sasuke dies, you can replace him with Hinata, although you won't get as much combos/dmg done.)
    The second team, I use, when all/some fall (by now, you should be at least at 6-9th level, 9th preferably.) You can now use your main, Hinata, Kakashi, and Kabuto(since you mentioned you were going to get him. He's pretty useful.)



    With skill set of:


    These 2 teams get me through, but of course, I'll provide a couple more in case your some ninjas from your second team die.

    For this team, in case Kabuto dies, cause the AI DOES aim for Kabuto frequently.
    (Not alot of combos, I'm afraid, but it does decent damage, and has immobile, paralysis, and ignite. So nice, amirite?)

    Skillset being:

    Basically any combo will cause immobile to your opponent, isn't that nice? Kakashi will cause paralysis with Lightning Blade, and Ignite with Fire Ball Jutsu. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to utilize Hinata's Sealing Point Palm Strike (cause acupuncture), so until you get to lvl 55 and get a summon, Hinata's acupuncture will have to wait. :C


    Another one, if Kakashi dies, cause holy heck, he is pretty squishy. (As well as Kabuto)
    (At this point, combos is not always power, but status effects are. Got Immobile, Poison, and more poison. Plus heals from Main and Karin)

    Skillset of:


    Also, if you upgrade Temari and Kankuro to 3 stars, you c*so use them too. Obviously the Sand Siblings would work well together.
    (Gaara is a good shield, plus Kankuro's puppet.)

    Skillset: (For poison, immobile, and healing)


    Another skillset:



    Well, if you do count them all up, you'd realize the total is 13 ninjas, but these are all suggestions, especially the Sand Sibling team. Hopefully this helps you in Survival Trial! Plus, you can retreat as much as you want if something goes wrong, don't be afraid to abuse that opportunity! C:

    This post was last edited by TomatoKat at 2016-10-23 04:28
Thank you. I should be getting Kabuto tomorrow before I do Survival, so I shall let you know how it goes.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 7
  • Posts: 1066
On 2016-10-23 07:57:49Show this Author Only
6#
I usually do completely opposite, beat all survival with just main team. If you use the fact that you can position your ninjas to perfectly counter enemy and that you can retreat if unlucky combo on you happens (or until you get free combo from normal attacks to cheese much stronger enemy) without any penalty.

Survival is based solely on your level not power or anything and it's based on your current mains level the moment you 'see' the enemy, doesn't matter if she/he is in team or not. Usually 10th will be same, 11th and 12th higher, 12th could be up to 6 higher, power is irrelevant i had people 5k+ and 5k- there, hope you don't get someone very p2w.

Good strategy early on is push till 11th or even better 12th, till you scout the enemy, then do all your daily stuff and power up, then beat them once you are stronger, but this becomes pointless later on when you stop being able to gain a level a day or more.

As for teams, i used this to full clear survival early on, used this team all the way until 50+ when i farmed my first purple summon for better team.

Hinata *x *x
*x *x *x
Main Kakashi Sasuke

3
2
3
2
2

This team needs 2 star Sasuke, it won't work with 3. This was my general formation, but for survival change it vs your current enemy.

Don't forget in survival AI is very predictable, so if you run acupuncture/immobilize you can cancel their skills very easily and don't forget about retreat *on, you can have as many tries as you want without any penalties if you just retreat before the fight is decided. This post was last edited by Dym at 2016-10-23 07:59
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-24 10:43:32Show this Author Only
7#
  • TomatoKat On 2016-10-23 04:24:38
  • My strategy is to first, not use my main (save her for later fights, 10-12), and start with a team of 3 star Sasuke, Sakura, 3 star Naruto, and Tenten (I realize, you don't have 3 star Sasuke or Naruto yet, but this team only works with them being 3 star). They should be able to get through at least the first 6-9(maybe) fights and not die, if you utilize them correctly.

    Of course, you c*ways use the classic Team 7 (Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke)
    (If Sasuke dies, you can replace him with Hinata, although you won't get as much combos/dmg done.)
    The second team, I use, when all/some fall (by now, you should be at least at 6-9th level, 9th preferably.) You can now use your main, Hinata, Kakashi, and Kabuto(since you mentioned you were going to get him. He's pretty useful.)



    With skill set of:


    These 2 teams get me through, but of course, I'll provide a couple more in case your some ninjas from your second team die.

    For this team, in case Kabuto dies, cause the AI DOES aim for Kabuto frequently.
    (Not alot of combos, I'm afraid, but it does decent damage, and has immobile, paralysis, and ignite. So nice, amirite?)

    Skillset being:

    Basically any combo will cause immobile to your opponent, isn't that nice? Kakashi will cause paralysis with Lightning Blade, and Ignite with Fire Ball Jutsu. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to utilize Hinata's Sealing Point Palm Strike (cause acupuncture), so until you get to lvl 55 and get a summon, Hinata's acupuncture will have to wait. :C


    Another one, if Kakashi dies, cause holy heck, he is pretty squishy. (As well as Kabuto)
    (At this point, combos is not always power, but status effects are. Got Immobile, Poison, and more poison. Plus heals from Main and Karin)

    Skillset of:


    Also, if you upgrade Temari and Kankuro to 3 stars, you c*so use them too. Obviously the Sand Siblings would work well together.
    (Gaara is a good shield, plus Kankuro's puppet.)

    Skillset: (For poison, immobile, and healing)


    Another skillset:



    Well, if you do count them all up, you'd realize the total is 13 ninjas, but these are all suggestions, especially the Sand Sibling team. Hopefully this helps you in Survival Trial! Plus, you can retreat as much as you want if something goes wrong, don't be afraid to abuse that opportunity! C:

    This post was last edited by TomatoKat at 2016-10-23 04:28
I used some of the lineups you suggested. It went well, however I had to improvise a bit when Hinata died :/

Just managed to kill round 11 with 2 ninja left standing. Had a fair bit of trouble dealing with 2 groups each with Gaara . One was Gaara and Earth Main each tanking in front of Kakashi/Karin and it took multiple retreats, but eventually got through it with minimal losses.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 4
  • Posts: 101
On 2016-10-24 12:26:05Show this Author Only
8#
  • PJP2810 On 2016-10-24 10:43:32
  • I used some of the lineups you suggested. It went well, however I had to improvise a bit when Hinata died :/

    Just managed to kill round 11 with 2 ninja left standing. Had a fair bit of trouble dealing with 2 groups each with Gaara . One was Gaara and Earth Main each tanking in front of Kakashi/Karin and it took multiple retreats, but eventually got through it with minimal losses.
Really glad I could help!

I realize not all of these teams are for back row killing, but targeting your mysteries to the ones in the back (Kakashi/Karin), really helps alot.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-24 17:10:30Show this Author Only
9#
  • TomatoKat On 2016-10-24 12:26:05
  • Really glad I could help!

    I realize not all of these teams are for back row killing, but targeting your mysteries to the ones in the back (Kakashi/Karin), really helps alot.
Funnily enough, the Earth main did more damage in it. I focused the back lines and he tore threw my tank :/
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-25 07:51:25Show this Author Only
10#
  • Dym On 2016-10-23 07:57:49
  • I usually do completely opposite, beat all survival with just main team. If you use the fact that you can position your ninjas to perfectly counter enemy and that you can retreat if unlucky combo on you happens (or until you get free combo from normal attacks to cheese much stronger enemy) without any penalty.

    Survival is based solely on your level not power or anything and it's based on your current mains level the moment you 'see' the enemy, doesn't matter if she/he is in team or not. Usually 10th will be same, 11th and 12th higher, 12th could be up to 6 higher, power is irrelevant i had people 5k+ and 5k- there, hope you don't get someone very p2w.

    Good strategy early on is push till 11th or even better 12th, till you scout the enemy, then do all your daily stuff and power up, then beat them once you are stronger, but this becomes pointless later on when you stop being able to gain a level a day or more.

    As for teams, i used this to full clear survival early on, used this team all the way until 50+ when i farmed my first purple summon for better team.

    Hinata *x *x
    *x *x *x
    Main Kakashi Sasuke

    3
    2
    3
    2
    2

    This team needs 2 star Sasuke, it won't work with 3. This was my general formation, but for survival change it vs your current enemy.

    Don't forget in survival AI is very predictable, so if you run acupuncture/immobilize you can cancel their skills very easily and don't forget about retreat *on, you can have as many tries as you want without any penalties if you just retreat before the fight is decided. This post was last edited by Dym at 2016-10-23 07:59
So I tried this method today.

I got up to Match 8 sucessfully with that lineup, however Sasuke became significantly injured that I had to swap to *ternate team for Match 9 (I used the Sand Siblings, with Sakura as support.

Temari almost died from this match and so, for Match 10+, I went back to TomatoKat's lineup of Kabuto/Main/Hinata/Kakashi.

With some creative positioning to have Kabuto's clones tank a lot. This took me through Match 12.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 15
  • Posts: 70
On 2016-10-25 09:40:16Show this Author Only
11#
  • TomatoKat On 2016-10-23 04:24:38
  • My strategy is to first, not use my main (save her for later fights, 10-12), and start with a team of 3 star Sasuke, Sakura, 3 star Naruto, and Tenten (I realize, you don't have 3 star Sasuke or Naruto yet, but this team only works with them being 3 star). They should be able to get through at least the first 6-9(maybe) fights and not die, if you utilize them correctly.

    Of course, you c*ways use the classic Team 7 (Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke)
    (If Sasuke dies, you can replace him with Hinata, although you won't get as much combos/dmg done.)
    The second team, I use, when all/some fall (by now, you should be at least at 6-9th level, 9th preferably.) You can now use your main, Hinata, Kakashi, and Kabuto(since you mentioned you were going to get him. He's pretty useful.)



    With skill set of:


    These 2 teams get me through, but of course, I'll provide a couple more in case your some ninjas from your second team die.

    For this team, in case Kabuto dies, cause the AI DOES aim for Kabuto frequently.
    (Not alot of combos, I'm afraid, but it does decent damage, and has immobile, paralysis, and ignite. So nice, amirite?)

    Skillset being:

    Basically any combo will cause immobile to your opponent, isn't that nice? Kakashi will cause paralysis with Lightning Blade, and Ignite with Fire Ball Jutsu. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to utilize Hinata's Sealing Point Palm Strike (cause acupuncture), so until you get to lvl 55 and get a summon, Hinata's acupuncture will have to wait. :C


    Another one, if Kakashi dies, cause holy heck, he is pretty squishy. (As well as Kabuto)
    (At this point, combos is not always power, but status effects are. Got Immobile, Poison, and more poison. Plus heals from Main and Karin)

    Skillset of:


    Also, if you upgrade Temari and Kankuro to 3 stars, you c*so use them too. Obviously the Sand Siblings would work well together.
    (Gaara is a good shield, plus Kankuro's puppet.)

    Skillset: (For poison, immobile, and healing)


    Another skillset:



    Well, if you do count them all up, you'd realize the total is 13 ninjas, but these are all suggestions, especially the Sand Sibling team. Hopefully this helps you in Survival Trial! Plus, you can retreat as much as you want if something goes wrong, don't be afraid to abuse that opportunity! C:

    This post was last edited by TomatoKat at 2016-10-23 04:28
I do now have GNW Kankuro thanks to the "Check in every day" :D
Reply
Quicky Post
Reply

Log in in order to Post. | Register