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1＃ Go ToHi, I'm an Earth main , and i keep runing into this situation/problem with looks just dumb, and i want to know if it's intended or just an bug....
and why , if its intended:
so they use this formation
x x x
x(fire clone)--- tobi ----fire main
x x x
And now comes the problem, why my earth main don't awake from fire main sleep when Tobi or Fire main clone normal attack me( also fire main skill , after he use it i'm still in sleep )?
Because of that my Earth manis in permanent sleep while if i use any other ninja thorse normal attacks awake them, that seems to only work vs earth main, and i can't do nothing about that, thorse 3 ninjas keep normal attack while my ninja is in sleep.Any other ninja normal attack or skills will awake me
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- On 2016-10-10 03:38:31
- No, the problem is that Earth Main uses Strong Armor or sth like that. at least I think that this is a cause of this bug. If I am wrong please correct me.
Yea that's what i'm asking for, using any other ninja will get out of sleep when clone/tobi attack, only to earth main seems to work different , strange , because my earth main it's in sleep from round 1 to 10 without any way to counter it, only by having 3-4 cleansers, to remove the 1000 debuffs that fire main puts, also that fire main clone debuff make me take almost 4k dmg when i use an skill, great balance in the game,Fire main does like 2x more dmg than the second dps class -
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- Indefined On 2016-10-10 03:51:40
- Yea that's what i'm asking for, using any other ninja will get out of sleep when clone/tobi attack, only to earth main seems to work different , strange , because my earth main it's in sleep from round 1 to 10 without any way to counter it, only by having 3-4 cleansers, to remove the 1000 debuffs that fire main puts, also that fire main clone debuff make me take almost 4k dmg when i use an skill, great balance in the game,Fire main does like 2x more dmg than the second dps class
let me explain what i said earlier. your sleep isnt dispelled because you didnt take taijutsu damage, doesnt matter if you are earth,water,light,cancer,wind. -
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- Spike37 On 2016-10-10 03:55:00
- let me explain what i said earlier. your sleep isnt dispelled because you didnt take taijutsu damage, doesnt matter if you are earth,water,light,cancer,wind.
So we all have to play only fire mains so devs buffs others or nerf the current Broken fire main? -
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Why don't you change ur playstyle or formation to counter him? Place a clone infront of your main so he will take the sleep for you.
Use a healer to cleanse debuff.
Use the attack multi time mystery to cleanse everything fire main or any other main can do to you.
Refine your gears.
And how come someone can be perm sleep if they're on the same move order? I assuming that your enemy place his main on 1st slot and so did you.
You r faster than him : You attack => He make you sleep => Next round you can't attack => You sleep again => But because you didn't standard attack this time you will be awake by the end of the round => You can start your mystery on next round.
He is faster than you : He attack => You sleep => Next round because you didn't standard attack last row you will be awake and able to use skill before he attack you again.
So that's basically impossible to perm sleep someone with same move order.
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- Kouka On 2016-10-10 04:32:19
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Why don't you change ur playstyle or formation to counter him? Place a clone infront of your main so he will take the sleep for you.
Use a healer to cleanse debuff.
Use the attack multi time mystery to cleanse everything fire main or any other main can do to you.
Refine your gears.
And how come someone can be perm sleep if they're on the same move order? I assuming that your enemy place his main on 1st slot and so did you.
You r faster than him : You attack => He make you sleep => Next round you can't attack => You sleep again => But because you didn't standard attack this time you will be awake by the end of the round => You can start your mystery on next round.
He is faster than you : He attack => You sleep => Next round because you didn't standard attack last row you will be awake and able to use skill before he attack you again.
So that's basically impossible to perm sleep someone with same move order.
This post was last edited by Kouka at 2016-10-10 03:37
1. Swaping arround will only work vs 1 enemy not all
2.I don't get why they give Fire main so much dmg/defence/utility,
- mirror good defence then almost 2x dmg vs ignited targets for all ally units
- fire clone (that debuffs hurst so * hard 40-50% of your hp, that debuff it's like do i wanna hit my skill and do 800 dmg then get 4k debuff dmg? hell no)
-then you have the sleep what other main have 100% cc on normal attack , that also hits hard :( -
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- Indefined On 2016-10-10 03:53:00
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http://prnt.sc/cror46
Blanced class, probably it's the same for all the other servers, 90% of population fire mains
This post was last edited by mar***@yahoo.com at 2016-10-10 03:54
Fire main is already average when it comes to ppl still using him. MB and CF are now top, at least for S1 -
Kouka's right about this one, there are dozens of ways to counter fire teams.
First of all, assume they are going to be using Mirror Return no matter what. This can be countered by either having more clones than you have ninja or by using mirror return also. Ninja that have mirror return at the moment are: Ningendo, Beheading Sword Kakashi, Kurenai.
Second, some ninja are capable of evading the "OP" sleep attack fire mains use. Kimimaru has *most guaranteed dodge on the first standard used against him. Hinata's mystery makes her invulnerable to it, and Neji on round one can evade it as well.
You might also find it easier to just control him with immobilize, sleep, or blindness.
Third, when setting up your team, try to make sure you always have a debuffer/healer to remove the different types of CC you'll encounter.
Finally try to focus down the fire main before round 3. You don't want to absorb more dragon flames than you have to.
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My curent formation, and i think fire main it's the only main that you are forced to use certain ninjas just for him alone,the thing that he have 100% cc on normal attack it's just out of place, no other mains have that hard cc on normal attack, some not even on skill.(AF have but on crit, that should been the case for fire main also..)
http://prntscr.com/crzn2v
Strange why they can't see the uploaded imaged :(
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Why not move your whole middle row down one, then put ao where shurado is now?
Also, ningendo causes chaos on his mystery yes, but did you know he ALSO causes immobile on his chase?
You can fully utilize his abilities by parcing shurado's repulses in DIFFERENT combos.
Also, this team comp isn't using Ao to the fullest either, since he can shield SIX fire/water ninja and you have 4. I suggest finding a better ninja for the team you're trying to create. Do you have sasori? If i were you I'd use him and shark summon. -
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Most earth mains use gaikido as a counter to fire mains kabuto is also a good easy to grab counter to the sleep healer that works with earth too. lightning roots though is practically a hard counter to firemains cc atm and completely breaks anything the fire main is meant to do for 2 rounds. -
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- On 2016-10-10 18:43:29
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Why not move your whole middle row down one, then put ao where shurado is now?
Also, ningendo causes chaos on his mystery yes, but did you know he ALSO causes immobile on his chase?
You can fully utilize his abilities by parcing shurado's repulses in DIFFERENT combos.
Also, this team comp isn't using Ao to the fullest either, since he can shield SIX fire/water ninja and you have 4. I suggest finding a better ninja for the team you're trying to create. Do you have sasori? If i were you I'd use him and shark summon.
Do you think , i've put that team together at random?:D ofc i know what their chases do, but i hate the fact that you have to build and change team only to be able to fight vs Fire master, i c*e this team no problem vs any other team, except fire ones :(.....Don't know why would they give fire main so much utility/defence/dmg, atleast il hope that we get new skills asap so fire mains stop use the sleep and start using the aoe normal attack..:D -
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