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Why i say survival trial is broken?everytime when you fight strong crimson fists,you kill everyone from his team pretty fast but you fail to kill main char crimson fist and you win but you will lose all characters you used into that fight.Because of crimson fist survival trial is broken because is really hard to kill strong crimson first until the allowed rounds expire so im thinking devs should remove the lose of your characters if you fail to defeat the enemy in until all the rounds are used.
What are your thoughts about this issue?

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On 2016-10-09 16:26:15Show this Author Only
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Does the fight go on for 10 rounds?
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On 2016-10-09 16:28:12Show this Author Only
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I feel like earth main is totally broken op.
there is no counter of him.
a lot of ppl say posion and ignition works for them but reality is they can clear debuff so easily and u cant break
tremendous amount of shields.mostly i win earth main by 8-10 rounds or timed out if i do not lose heavily.

but i think this is not a big issue.
i rather make another party who will go for timed out win.
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On 2016-10-09 16:35:31Show this Author Only
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u gotta get used to using poison ignite damage teams for earth main fights i dont have a problem with earth mains because tobi is a godsend
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On 2016-10-09 16:47:46Show this Author Only
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Poison and ignition goes past the shields so it doesnt matter if their shields are big or not
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On 2016-10-09 16:57:06Show this Author Only
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  • ronaldfranklint On 2016-10-09 16:47:46
  • Poison and ignition goes past the shields so it doesnt matter if their shields are big or not
yeah but you also have to survive so its kinda hard to find a tanky team that c*so do a lot of posion and ignite you know,it may be tanky but it also have other 3 chars that you have to kill first without getting killed..
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On 2016-10-09 17:08:57Show this Author Only
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  • Reawr On 2016-10-09 16:57:06
  • yeah but you also have to survive so its kinda hard to find a tanky team that c*so do a lot of posion and ignite you know,it may be tanky but it also have other 3 chars that you have to kill first without getting killed..
As stated above, Tobi is a very good Ninja for this. Line him up so he auto attacks the main, so every round you are getting the ignition damage on him, while you use his skills along with the rest of your ninja to kill his team.

Also don't forget on Survival it is super easy to line up a fire main with the earth main and just keep him asleep every round, it also helps keep him controlled so he can't use his mystery until he is the only one left (cause at that point every ninja on your team is attacking him and waking him up). If you don't run a fire main, any ninja that can cause sleep, immobile, chaos, and blindness will stop the earth main from stacking his shields.

Also, even if you had to focus every mystery skill on the other 3 ninja, your auto attacks alone should be keeping the mains shields at a lower level. If you are not doing enough standard attack damage to keep his shield low during the whole fight, you might want to look at ninja that hit harder, or increasing their damage output. This post was last edited by Maroner at 2016-10-9 17:10
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On 2016-10-09 17:22:20Show this Author Only
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You probably are keeping the same lineup each time and not moving them around.
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On 2016-10-09 17:23:20Show this Author Only
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  • Maroner On 2016-10-09 17:08:57
  • As stated above, Tobi is a very good Ninja for this. Line him up so he auto attacks the main, so every round you are getting the ignition damage on him, while you use his skills along with the rest of your ninja to kill his team.

    Also don't forget on Survival it is super easy to line up a fire main with the earth main and just keep him asleep every round, it also helps keep him controlled so he can't use his mystery until he is the only one left (cause at that point every ninja on your team is attacking him and waking him up). If you don't run a fire main, any ninja that can cause sleep, immobile, chaos, and blindness will stop the earth main from stacking his shields.

    Also, even if you had to focus every mystery skill on the other 3 ninja, your auto attacks alone should be keeping the mains shields at a lower level. If you are not doing enough standard attack damage to keep his shield low during the whole fight, you might want to look at ninja that hit harder, or increasing their damage output. This post was last edited by Maroner at 2016-10-9 17:10
either way in order to kill crimson fist until the rounds wears off you need to sacriifice survivability,a lot of even if you go for poison sleep,interupt blindness ignite,all chars that does that are very squishy and easy to kill and you also need to deal with the other 3 ninjas first Im having trouble with earth mains that are like 3k less power than me.
This post was last edited by We*er at 2016-10-9 17:25
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On 2016-10-09 17:25:36Show this Author Only
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  • ronaldfranklint On 2016-10-09 17:22:20
  • You probably are keeping the same lineup each time and not moving them around.
I do move them around every time,I know what im doing and before you ask no I dont fight in automode either
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On 2016-10-09 17:28:18Show this Author Only
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I've gone from being a Scarlet to a Crimson recently. I agree poison and ignitions handle us relatively easily. If they have someone capable of curing debuffs then focus them primarily and always save Crimson for last. I don't think we're overly broken but I do think our bulk is something to respect and plan for ahead of time.
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On 2016-10-09 18:36:15Show this Author Only
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I remember back in the day when people used to say crimson fist are weak ;P.

And about * it, what i do is accupunture him with neji, because if he uses his mystery he will get like 3k shield, so you shouldn't let him cast it.
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On 2016-10-09 18:47:20Show this Author Only
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  • Reawr On 2016-10-09 17:23:20
  • either way in order to kill crimson fist until the rounds wears off you need to sacriifice survivability,a lot of even if you go for poison sleep,interupt blindness ignite,all chars that does that are very squishy and easy to kill and you also need to deal with the other 3 ninjas first Im having trouble with earth mains that are like 3k less power than me.
    This post was last edited by We*er at 2016-10-9 17:25
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of line ups are you running? Earth mains that run as a tank sacrifice alot of attack damage to do that, after all, they are shielding instead of attacking. Also, unless you are killing the rest of his team in one round, the Earth main should be shielding the rest of the team most of the time, leaving him open to you when the rest of the team is dead. The only other way he is adding a shield to him self is if you are letting him get his ground pound skill off.

As far as survivability goes, what is your main? Each class has a way to add survivability. Wind mains have clones, and the move that resets cool downs (does it also remove debuffs? I've never been a wind main). Fire mains have control, along with a strong clone, or the ablity to remove debuffs (correct? again, never ran one). Lightning mains tend to have the best of both worlds here, as you can run a heavy damage team and heal your self using the ANBU support passive that allows you to leech life with each taijutsu attack, along with yet another option for a clone. Water mains should be pretty clear... they are a great healer that should allow the rest of your team to focus on damage, they also have a option to run a clone. And last you have the earth main that will shield that two ninja on your team with the least health. (PS: Lightning and Water mains add great control, as they cause acupuncture for 3 rounds) Edit: just wanted to add that when I was a lightning main, I loved facing Earth mains, cause all my ninja would be (or very close to it) full health by the end of the battle thanks to the life leech passive, and the fact that Earth mains do nothing but sit there and let you hit them :P

Also if you are running a damage team and find your self having issues lasting, Guy is a good choice as he brings abit to the table when it comes to fighting AI/Auto teams. You can line him up out of the way so he doesn't die early. But his leech passive is great for a high attack team. Along with an interrupt.

Anyways, if you want any help on teams to beat them, I'd be more then happy to help, but almost everyone I've talked to has been able to demolish Earth mains cause as soon as the team is dead, it is 4 damage dealing ninja (3 if you are Earth or Water using your support skills) against one ninja that can't even fight back. When fighting an Earth main, I would suggest going more damage focus, cause I've noticed that once an Earth team loses its main (or one of it's) damage dealer, losing a ninja on your part isn't an issue any more. This post was last edited by Maroner at 2016-10-9 18:56
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On 2016-10-09 19:18:09Show this Author Only
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I myself have really never faced an issue with crimson fist teams. Tobi and neji handle most crimson fist team pretty well.
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On 2016-10-09 19:26:51Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-09 19:18:09
  • I myself have really never faced an issue with crimson fist teams. Tobi and neji handle most crimson fist team pretty well.
so what team are you suggesting againts earth mains in survival?
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On 2016-10-09 19:35:20Show this Author Only
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http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com ... ead&tid=6117&extra=

I have 2 teams that counter the major crimson fist teams. War kiba, hinata, sasuke and Karin primarily, if you don't have war kiba 3 star naruto or Kankuro works. The other is just a basic stall team.

Please refrain from the word broken also. Crimson fist is not broken. Annoying perhaps but not broken. If you put the crimson fist into sleep,immobile or chaos, he can't cast shield. So Tayuya works if you have a decent sleep team with her and Ino.
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On 2016-10-09 19:38:10Show this Author Only
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  • Reawr On 2016-10-09 19:26:51
  • so what team are you suggesting againts earth mains in survival?
Debuff ninja work really well, but ninja that do lightning damage have bonus damage to Earth ninja.

As far as a team, You have to look at the over all team you are facing. If the team is an Earth main and 3 Pains, then you need high damage out put, combos, and a healer/debuff remover most likely. If you are up against a pain, with a healer, damage dealer, and off tank/damage, focus more on damage and take out the main damage dealer/combo'er first, followed by the healer unless the off tank/damage dealer will hurt you too much.
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On 2016-10-09 22:02:59Show this Author Only
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Dude use Tayuya and fire main with sleep talent.. + tobi for ignite and a extra ninja... you can win .. just make sure that extra ninja has nin as standart attack or taijutsu but in a position after the main earth enemy position.. also your main need to stay in front of earth main and if you have more initiative or 1ª before the main earth position, you can sleep him.. after it, just use Tayuya to interrupt skills of the others ninjas, and tobi to ignite...
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On 2016-10-09 22:15:26Show this Author Only
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  • Reawr On 2016-10-09 19:26:51
  • so what team are you suggesting againts earth mains in survival?
Well, what main are you using first? xD
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On 2016-10-09 22:47:07Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-09 22:15:26
  • Well, what main are you using first? xD
earth ;P ikik but still other earths are just as annoying as me lol
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