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On 2016-10-09 03:07:02Show this Author Only
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On 2016-10-09 03:36:08Show this Author Only
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So Aristeaus does get something from the oasis or w/e? keeps saying "we this" "we that". eh
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On 2016-10-09 03:52:10Show this Author Only
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Meh another thread about this...
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On 2016-10-09 05:38:27Show this Author Only
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Mods, you can close the thread now. No point talking in circles.
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On 2016-10-09 06:42:52Show this Author Only
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Honestly this thread is ridiculous in itself. Im not P2W, I've only been playing for several weeks and I've acquired several rares as is such as Sage Jiraya and Chiyo ten puppets. You need to keep in mind that to host each server is $$ and the only way to manage and open all these servers is due to p2p players. I've had no difficulties beating p2p players on my server. Theres only two I cant beat and they're relatively higher than me in power but I still perform well against them. Sure more than just strategy will be required in certain matchups but thats just the nature of browser games, even mmo's in general. If someone has the money for it and wants to spend it let them, its their hard earned cash after all.
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On 2016-10-09 06:45:37Show this Author Only
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AS long as they let us keep monthly card gift event forever the events arent so bad for casual players . If its only for this month its bad but if its here to stay anyone can save enough coupons to buy good stuff eventually.
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On 2016-10-09 06:53:27Show this Author Only
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I am really sorry guys(if moderators chose to ban me,i'll accept it) but you are plain *, most of you anyways...you morons see this from the point of view of the privileged, you say 300$ for a ninja is not much...
Well here i am, a 23 year old guy, i have a kid 1 year and 1 month old, and a lovely wife...Game devs ask for fcking 7.5k$ for a ninja while with that amount of money i could raise my kid till he reaches 6 years old, you simply do not fcking see that this kind of money could fcking save lifes in real life, and instead you pay that much money for a few pixels on an computer, the prices are soooooooooooooo fcking huge, asking that kind of money is just insane, but they're doing it anyways.Why?you might ask, because they can get away with it. the game is new and the popularity is big, but fortunately(?) this game burned half of it's life away, ppl will start to see the p2w pattern and will soon leave, and the paying guys will leave too(who wants to be no.1 in a server with 5 players).Game devs knew exactly what they were doing(hats down to them) because they know that you got only 2 ways to run a game:
1.you set sky high prices and profit while the game works(usually a few months) then leave(See ArchAge)
2.make a lasting game and take ppl's money over the course of longer periods of time(this only happens when the devs are really "humans" and they care about their game, i might sound racist now but chinese are known to have 0 care about fellow humans(as proof i bring the article where the chinese created fake eggs just because they were 2 cents cheaper to produce(http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/06/how-to-make-a-rotten-egg/ and lots, lots more, i could bring you about 400 articles like this)... but hey, that's just my 2 cents
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On 2016-10-09 06:57:31Show this Author Only
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the point being that devs knew what they were doing and complaining won't change the management's strategy, but complaining helps other understand how it works so they won't get fcked as bad as you did.
In my opinion complaining is the root of evolution, if human's would have not complained, we would have still live in caves.So guys, complain more, help fellow humans understand what they put theirselves into, but bare in mind that this complains won't change the game, they will only help other players. This post was last edited by 122***@facebook at 2016-10-9 07:28
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On 2016-10-09 07:11:34Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2016-10-09 06:57:31
  • the point being that devs knew what they were doing and complaining won't change the management's strategy, but complaining helps other understand how it works so they won't get fcked as bad as you did.
    In my opinion complaining is the root of evolution, if human's would have not complained, we would have still live in caves.So guys, complain more, help fellow humans understand what they put theirselves into, but bare in mind that this complains won't change the game, they will only help other players. This post was last edited by 122***@facebook at 2016-10-9 07:28
Yes well maybe if more people complain constructively we will get more good events like Lucky board . Also what people seem to fail to realise that even this event has good rewards for f2p even if its not great. Like mood scrolls magatama and refines and thread.
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On 2016-10-09 07:40:48Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2016-10-09 06:53:27
  • I am really sorry guys(if moderators chose to ban me,i'll accept it) but you are plain *, most of you anyways...you morons see this from the point of view of the privileged, you say 300$ for a ninja is not much...
    Well here i am, a 23 year old guy, i have a kid 1 year and 1 month old, and a lovely wife...Game devs ask for fcking 7.5k$ for a ninja while with that amount of money i could raise my kid till he reaches 6 years old, you simply do not fcking see that this kind of money could fcking save lifes in real life, and instead you pay that much money for a few pixels on an computer, the prices are soooooooooooooo fcking huge, asking that kind of money is just insane, but they're doing it anyways.Why?you might ask, because they can get away with it. the game is new and the popularity is big, but fortunately(?) this game burned half of it's life away, ppl will start to see the p2w pattern and will soon leave, and the paying guys will leave too(who wants to be no.1 in a server with 5 players).Game devs knew exactly what they were doing(hats down to them) because they know that you got only 2 ways to run a game:
    1.you set sky high prices and profit while the game works(usually a few months) then leave(See ArchAge)
    2.make a lasting game and take ppl's money over the course of longer periods of time(this only happens when the devs are really "humans" and they care about their game, i might sound racist now but chinese are known to have 0 care about fellow humans(as proof i bring the article where the chinese created fake eggs just because they were 2 cents cheaper to produce(http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/06/how-to-make-a-rotten-egg/ and lots, lots more, i could bring you about 400 articles like this)... but hey, that's just my 2 cents
7.5k$ you mean Susanoo Itachi? well it's a great ninja and thats why he cost 7.5k$ but you can get only his fragments and you can do this in time...there is no point to spend 7.5k$ in one day...
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On 2016-10-09 07:46:21Show this Author Only
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DragonulRed....i try to pull you out of ignorance and you jump right in(like a pig in a mud)...if i say that is not right to kill a kid, you'll just say "you don't kill him all at once.First you take the liver, after a month you take the left lung and so on" but you miss the point, that kid still dies
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On 2016-10-09 08:24:28Show this Author Only
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let's face it...the community in this game is made by (mostly) kids, who have everything handed out to them and take it for granted, but when they'll grow they'll start to see(hopefully?) that 7500$ is a lot.They will see that they work 8 hrs a day 5 days a week for 4-500$ and realize that they won't ever be able to afford itachi(a few pixels in the game) they will start to see how the world is unfair and how they'll have to prostitute themselves just so they can live in this world, not to talk about affording a character in a game
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On 2016-10-09 08:35:44Show this Author Only
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True, and that's why I think with all the characters in the manga, it shouldn't be that hard to make these character available in the story line. Itachi should be one of the possible.
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On 2016-10-09 09:00:30Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2016-10-09 07:46:21
  • DragonulRed....i try to pull you out of ignorance and you jump right in(like a pig in a mud)...if i say that is not right to kill a kid, you'll just say "you don't kill him all at once.First you take the liver, after a month you take the left lung and so on" but you miss the point, that kid still dies
This *ogy makes zero sense. Comparing killing a kid to purchasing a ninja, really? As several people have said, most ninjas in this game will be farm-able, EVEN TENDO. Does that justify the $1000 price on him, or any other ninja? To most people, no and patience will get you those ninjas in time. It's only impatient people who believe they must spend that amount right now that see the $1,000 price tag and complain.

That's exactly the problem with our generation. A bunch of complainers searching through Instagram and Facebook whining over not being able to afford a private jet or the latest Prada. The world is indeed unfair, get used to it, stop complaining, and work for success. I respect that you have a kid and you are working to take care of your family, but then you should expect not to be able to obtain the most popular ninjas in this game without paying, at least not right away.

I know I'm in the minority in that, I have the restraint not to spend carelessly on things I don't need. I can compete on my server with FREE ninjas, except against a few people who have spent thousands. I have spent roughly $200 over the past 2 months, which is less than I spend on food per month. I just see a ninja or event I like, and decide not to eat out for a week. And unless you're telling me, you don't have a useless game console, or some other games or things you have put less time into than Naruto Online, don't be so condescending on those who decide their money has more value in a game they'll be playing for months or years.

Edit: A proper *ogy would be a $7,500 phone comes out. Most people see that and think what a ridiculous amount of money that is, it could save lives, etc. The company decides that if you go get a stamp every month for 2 years, you get the phone for free. That's the point everyone is making.

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On 2016-10-09 09:43:19Show this Author Only
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  • Lazyboi On 2016-10-09 09:00:30
  • This *ogy makes zero sense. Comparing killing a kid to purchasing a ninja, really? As several people have said, most ninjas in this game will be farm-able, EVEN TENDO. Does that justify the $1000 price on him, or any other ninja? To most people, no and patience will get you those ninjas in time. It's only impatient people who believe they must spend that amount right now that see the $1,000 price tag and complain.

    That's exactly the problem with our generation. A bunch of complainers searching through Instagram and Facebook whining over not being able to afford a private jet or the latest Prada. The world is indeed unfair, get used to it, stop complaining, and work for success. I respect that you have a kid and you are working to take care of your family, but then you should expect not to be able to obtain the most popular ninjas in this game without paying, at least not right away.

    I know I'm in the minority in that, I have the restraint not to spend carelessly on things I don't need. I can compete on my server with FREE ninjas, except against a few people who have spent thousands. I have spent roughly $200 over the past 2 months, which is less than I spend on food per month. I just see a ninja or event I like, and decide not to eat out for a week. And unless you're telling me, you don't have a useless game console, or some other games or things you have put less time into than Naruto Online, don't be so condescending on those who decide their money has more value in a game they'll be playing for months or years.

    Edit: A proper *ogy would be a $7,500 phone comes out. Most people see that and think what a ridiculous amount of money that is, it could save lives, etc. The company decides that if you go get a stamp every month for 2 years, you get the phone for free. That's the point everyone is making.

    This post was last edited by Lazyboi at 2016-10-9 09:22
Lol this was my bad for making this thread. I've never played an online game that tried to release "in-game items" for this much money. The only games I've play were ones that "tried" to give a even-level playing field to everyone.

Patience isn't the problem. I've never been told "since you can't afford/want to pay for this premium item, just wait 8 months - 2 years+ to get it ok?" I've been told to farm it. Farming any of the items took around 2 months max, 8 hours per day every day doing nothing but farming. I'm fine with that. The last mmo I was on, I was in the top 20 of the server after paying $200 in the span of 6 years. I've paid $500 within 3 months to this game and I'm just "paying to stay near the top".

About the phone *ogy... If a $7,500 phone came out, and they told you to go get a stamp every month for 2 years, people would accept that. Why? You're telling them how they can farm it. That is not the only thing they're spending money on. They buy a stamp and move on (Which is equivalent to buying fragments in the shops every day). A majority of people in this forum are telling people to save up (not spending any coupons) for 8+ months to obtain 1 single character. That's like telling people to save up for a year to buy the phone, don't buy food, don't pay bills, don't buy anything you like until you have enough to get that phone, only to have it be outclassed by something that comes out a week later. That is what everyone is telling the f2p people when they say "just save up for it, it'll only take you a year of not buying anything".
The disconnect between the f2p in this game and the p2p players is disgusting. Yes, some of them have really bad attitudes, they want everything for free. That is why you compromise, the gap between the two should not be a year big. If p2p players can get a character instantly, let the f2p be able to farm him within 2 months or so. Saving coupons and building frags through in-game options. You'd have a much healthier competitive scene.


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On 2016-10-09 09:57:21Show this Author Only
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  • Hakkyoku On 2016-10-09 09:43:19
  • Lol this was my bad for making this thread. I've never played an online game that tried to release "in-game items" for this much money. The only games I've play were ones that "tried" to give a even-level playing field to everyone.

    Patience isn't the problem. I've never been told "since you can't afford/want to pay for this premium item, just wait 8 months - 2 years+ to get it ok?" I've been told to farm it. Farming any of the items took around 2 months max, 8 hours per day every day doing nothing but farming. I'm fine with that. The last mmo I was on, I was in the top 20 of the server after paying $200 in the span of 6 years. I've paid $500 within 3 months to this game and I'm just "paying to stay near the top".

    About the phone *ogy... If a $7,500 phone came out, and they told you to go get a stamp every month for 2 years, people would accept that. Why? You're telling them how they can farm it. That is not the only thing they're spending money on. They buy a stamp and move on (Which is equivalent to buying fragments in the shops every day). A majority of people in this forum are telling people to save up (not spending any coupons) for 8+ months to obtain 1 single character. That's like telling people to save up for a year to buy the phone, don't buy food, don't pay bills, don't buy anything you like until you have enough to get that phone, only to have it be outclassed by something that comes out a week later. That is what everyone is telling the f2p people when they say "just save up for it, it'll only take you a year of not buying anything".
    The disconnect between the f2p in this game and the p2p players is disgusting. Yes, some of them have really bad attitudes, they want everything for free. That is why you compromise, the gap between the two should not be a year big. If p2p players can get a character instantly, let the f2p be able to farm him within 2 months or so. Saving coupons and building frags through in-game options. You'd have a much healthier competitive scene.


    This post was last edited by Hakkyoku at 2016-10-9 09:53
You aren't the first person to make a thread like this and you have valid points. Personally, I'm with you in that I enjoy hard work being rewarded over money, but when I had to work full-time (and now that I'm finishing school), I began to appreciate that some games were catered towards people with less time.

My post wasn't directed towards you, as you seem quite rational. It's all the similar threads people have made to yours just ranting and rambling about how unfair the game is and how they want ninjas EVERY week. I agree I enjoyed MMORPGs that had the farming and grinding model, it was rewarding, but there aren't many of them left (I'm still hoping for a new one). I get the frustration, but this is the type of game where those "people paying to stay near the top," have to keep spending, otherwise the f2p players will slowly catch up.

The information is available. This isn't the first version of the game, and it just takes some time to do the research. It's like someone came and said "hey, the company didn't say anything, but collect these stamps every month to get a free phone based on the research I did." I'd be excited, not complaining about the price of the phone. That's just another option, you can instead save up and purchase the ninja you want RIGHT AWAY. Purchasing is just an extra way of obtaining most ninjas, they are farm-able over time.
To your edit: Of course, I agree it could be done better and the current gap isn't something I'm happy with. That is where we can suggest improvements. Not a lot of companies hire moderators to listen to our feedback and try to support a positive community environment.
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On 2016-10-09 10:05:25Show this Author Only
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  • Lazyboi On 2016-10-09 09:57:21
  • You aren't the first person to make a thread like this and you have valid points. Personally, I'm with you in that I enjoy hard work being rewarded over money, but when I had to work full-time (and now that I'm finishing school), I began to appreciate that some games were catered towards people with less time.

    My post wasn't directed towards you, as you seem quite rational. It's all the similar threads people have made to yours just ranting and rambling about how unfair the game is and how they want ninjas EVERY week. I agree I enjoyed MMORPGs that had the farming and grinding model, it was rewarding, but there aren't many of them left (I'm still hoping for a new one). I get the frustration, but this is the type of game where those "people paying to stay near the top," have to keep spending, otherwise the f2p players will slowly catch up.

    The information is available. This isn't the first version of the game, and it just takes some time to do the research. It's like someone came and said "hey, the company didn't say anything, but collect these stamps every month to get a free phone based on the research I did." I'd be excited, not complaining about the price of the phone. That's just another option, you can instead save up and purchase the ninja you want RIGHT AWAY. Purchasing is just an extra way of obtaining most ninjas, they are farm-able over time.
    To your edit: Of course, I agree it could be done better and the current gap isn't something I'm happy with. That is where we can suggest improvements. Not a lot of companies hire moderators to listen to our feedback and try to support a positive community environment.
    This post was last edited by Lazyboi at 2016-10-9 09:59
Have you tried Final Fantasy 14? It's a MMO that has quite a good grind to it.
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On 2016-10-09 10:13:56Show this Author Only
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You've got to remember this is a business, Trying to make a profit. This post was last edited by at 2016-10-9 10:15
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On 2016-10-09 10:20:46Show this Author Only
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I'll be closing this thread to stop the argument.
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