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On 2016-10-05 06:36:45Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I want someone to explain how this matching works, seriously. I just ended my 12th day losing streak during Convoy. That's 48 Convoy attempts with only 2 successes. Out of those 46 losses 44 were against the top 10 strongest people on my server. That goes beyond the realm of bad luck and seems to ignore the laws of probability and/or RNG.

It has become super irritating at this point and is slowly driving me to not enjoy the game, as well as severely hindering my ability to level my group skills, which need 60 points per level. I get 1 a day at this rate.
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On 2016-10-05 07:21:59Show this Author Only
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you can win if you are in a weak group, try joining the strongs' group
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On 2016-10-05 09:01:45Show this Author Only
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Run convoy with someone strong then
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On 2016-10-05 09:31:48Show this Author Only
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Or u can do convoy 10 mins before the time limit :)
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On 2016-10-05 09:36:31Show this Author Only
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  • Overmain On 2016-10-05 09:31:48
  • Or u can do convoy 10 mins before the time limit :)
overmain i remember you u use to play ninja classic
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On 2016-10-05 10:30:10Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 09:36:31
  • overmain i remember you u use to play ninja classic
n who are u?
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On 2016-10-05 11:16:03Show this Author Only
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actually the way the game matches ANYTHING would be great. i have 2 chars on 1 server and often i would need daily arena stuff done so I would queue up and wait like 4 minutes with no result so I hop on other char to fight against it, queue up on that one and it INSTANTLY matches. This has happened on multiple occasions to multiple people. But we will probably never be told how the game figures it out (if they could even manage to program something smart lol) because blah blah blah "No - Daiske"
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On 2016-10-05 11:37:19Show this Author Only
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When you're doing your convoy runs, someone else is doing plunder. The person who is plundering gets to choose the two people they want to target, which in this case is you. So if you find yourself fighting someone stronger, it's because they chose you specifically.

If this is recurrent, wait a little longer than normal to do your convoy because those plundering only get 2 chances to plunder, so a lot of them will be done within 10 minutes. Of course that doesn't eliminate late players or those that choose to plunder after convoy.
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On 2016-10-05 11:46:26Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 11:16:03
  • actually the way the game matches ANYTHING would be great. i have 2 chars on 1 server and often i would need daily arena stuff done so I would queue up and wait like 4 minutes with no result so I hop on other char to fight against it, queue up on that one and it INSTANTLY matches. This has happened on multiple occasions to multiple people. But we will probably never be told how the game figures it out (if they could even manage to program something smart lol) because blah blah blah "No - Daiske"
If you're matching for that long it's because there is no one else matching for the arena. That is why when you bring your alternate character after waiting for so long it matches instantly. It's just you and your alternate character in arena.
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On 2016-10-05 11:52:28Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 11:46:26
  • If you're matching for that long it's because there is no one else matching for the arena. That is why when you bring your alternate character after waiting for so long it matches instantly. It's just you and your alternate character in arena.
no. i'm saying my alt gets matched with someone else instantly meanwhile the first char is still waiting to get matched with someone. don't be * man
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On 2016-10-05 12:01:31Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 11:52:28
  • no. i'm saying my alt gets matched with someone else instantly meanwhile the first char is still waiting to get matched with someone. don't be * man
That is my fault, I misread some of what you said. No reason to be rude.

From what I know of the arena is that your rank contributes to who you get paired with. I couldn't get paired with my friend because I'm six paths sennin while she was a ninja student. If your rank is low/high the chances of being paired with someone opposite to you is low.

If your alternative character is close in rank to you, then you could just be unlucky and may need to refresh your arena matching from time to time.
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On 2016-10-05 12:06:06Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 12:01:31
  • That is my fault, I misread some of what you said. No reason to be rude.

    From what I know of the arena is that your rank contributes to who you get paired with. I couldn't get paired with my friend because I'm six paths sennin while she was a ninja student. If your rank is low/high the chances of being paired with someone opposite to you is low.

    If your alternative character is close in rank to you, then you could just be unlucky and may need to refresh your arena matching from time to time.
I've been matched with ninja as 6 paths before and I've been matched against 6 paths while being a student. My current level compared to my alts level is not that big of a difference (because on my main i've lost a ton of points so others can get wins). Even when trying to arena against other people around the same level it can take a while. The game does what it wants, I doubt the people that are doing the coding even know how it works.
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On 2016-10-05 12:14:10Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-10-05 12:06:06
  • I've been matched with ninja as 6 paths before and I've been matched against 6 paths while being a student. My current level compared to my alts level is not that big of a difference (because on my main i've lost a ton of points so others can get wins). Even when trying to arena against other people around the same level it can take a while. The game does what it wants, I doubt the people that are doing the coding even know how it works.
Hm. That is interesting. Since getting to six paths I rarely match with anyone under Kage. Perhaps you're right though about the arena being completely random.
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On 2016-10-05 12:31:57Show this Author Only
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  • Overmain On 2016-10-05 10:30:10
  • n who are u?
just a random that saw you on forums alot
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On 2016-10-05 13:02:34Show this Author Only
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I believe Niji explained it quite well how convoy/plunder works...
When you are low level or low power in your server, you tend to be an easy prey.. Noone wants to lose in convoy/plunder.. so people chose others they know they have a high chance of win... Ofc this doesn't work everytime. Since it won't let you close/refresh the plunder results, you are forced to choose whoever showup there, whether weak or strong..

I think plundering is luck based.. if there are too many people stronger than you in your server, have a high chance of losing... and since most of them are done in the first 15 min - you might have a hard time finding a match later for plunder.
But convoy, thats a different story. For this, keep in mind 2 things:
1) Start late.. by then many will be done and your chance to go without being attacked will increase a lot.
2) Try to get someone strong in your group as partner. That way people will be discouraged from attacking you.
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