Hello,
How do you know that the critical rate is increasing instead of reducing? Please let me know, thanks!

I can see it after several matches. I have tested it without weakness seal and with. Before I was testing it I noticed it in regular matches in arena, that opponent ninjas weakened by seal are unusually more often giving me critical. Although final damage is lower, but it is because of lowered injury rate a nin/att stats. It simply can be seen after several matches. I was curious about responses. I can make video on it with several matches for you to see but I thought people with Asura 4star can realize for themself in same amount of time as watching some of my video...I did not record so far...but I can

I will make video with some tests today and I´ll put it here..

I think that it works properly.

I understand his +2 wording literally as setting enemy critical rate to flat 50% (not lowering by 50% !) - meaning every ninja that has this seal applied on will have 50% chance to crit period. Doesn't matter how much critical stat X ninja had before seal was applied and that's probably why enemy ninja that normally would never crit you cuz of critical stat difference with seal on him starts to crit you.

Quick off top here for fellow Ashura gamers just use Y mystery bro. Idk what is wrong with EN / NY community and who baited everybody into using +2 version but it's terrible in comparison to Y and here is why:

- 75% stat lower is enaugh to reduce enemy damage don't need that crit/injury on top of it

- Y version stops all forms of healing which is much more important in current meta where 1 mystery from Shisui or water main heals everything back to full

- MOST important thing tho Y mystery can be applied like old Naruto debuffs post enemy standard attack and then it carries over to the next round which can for example permanently lower enemy sus Shisui damage even if you are slower than him

Same power match-up vs faster Shisui thanks to Y mystery being applied permanently from R1 enemy Shisui was not able to out dmg my Water main healing.

If I used +2 mystery he would just destroy me, cuz of not being able to re apply my debuff before he attacks in next round.

So as always test things properly yourself. Don't copy other people even if top30 spacetime uses same thing - they are wrong. in CN If I'm not wrong Y version lasts straight up 2 rounds no need to wait for enemy standards so after that skill update comes live only a madman would use +2 instead.

PS Took 5 years of testing things out but yes you can reliably win vs vanilla Shisui gamers in current meta ~same power range so I guess Tachibana you were right it's not THAT bad even tho you probably had no idea how to achieve it yourself.

Asura weaken seal test - YouTube

Okey, I have made video anyway..so I am putting it in. Under weaken seal ninja causes more often critical.

BUT ! Kiriya, what you posted about critical make sense. And actually you are really smart about this. Thank you very much for you recommendation for Y mystery. I will switch :)

What bothers my mind though..is that on konoha proxy it say, critical rate is reduced to 50 % ...so if it is reduced it means it has been lowered from normal state. It was lowered from 100 % to 50% . That logically means target under weaken seal should do less often critical, don´ t you think ? Maybe if we had proper description for ninjas in game we would know for sure what developers thought and if they ´re really set it how they supposed.

It should reduce the critical stat like you said but I don't know chinese myself so there is a problem with those translations maybe something is missed in between or even original chinese wording is bad for this kind of things idk.

I also noticed that enemy crits a lot with +2 seal so I just assume it works like old Susano Sasuke fiesta where it said increased critical damage by 1,5x and what it meant in reality was that it didn't increase his injury stat by 50% but locked the damage to be pathetic 50% more than original non crit hit and Ashura seal is most likely the same. Doesn't reduce critical stat by 50% but sets it to flat 50%

PS

Forgot for ppl that want to copy my team, last ninja that is missing from picture cuz of being removed by enemy Asian Itachi is Christmas Konan - yes not a meme she is very good for my team for 3 reasons:

- Undodgeable chase that can easly proc 10T Madara 30hit chase which paralyze Shisui and stops all of his dmg in combination with Ashura Y seal

- Gives 20 chakra per round so I can drop Ashura mystery round 1 with out having to use things like earth main chakra wall that can be stopped and then gg you insta lose

- Gives entire team round 1 60% def and res which helps a bit in tanking round 1 damage before you apply paralyze and Ashura Seal on enemy.

- Bonus reason as long as you are faster she kills those annoying lions from Sai and completly counters those setups

Madara has to be obviously BT for his irremovable paralyze chase

Water main HAS to use water arm mystery to apply 2 round super armor removal on enemy Shisui otherwise you won't be able to chase him down.

Healing standard - BT Healing talent + BT experimental ninjutsu (dodge before you have BT experimental ninjutsu) chase Water Trumpet + Rhino

Future update I think Edo Yugito BT could be better than Konan for the team cuz of perma revive, 5% lowering initative on even rounds for enemies removing Shisui advantage and gives more chakra - only downside that her chase is not undodgeable - have to test how impactful that is but I think she is a good idea to check it out.

What you says make sense in the end... it is what it is and it looks exactly how you described. Just wondered, because they´re creating something called weaken seal and then actually doesn´t make sense to raise somehow critical. Only reasoning is bad programming behind this and that they actually sometimes have problem to set things how they thought initially. I don´t want to be bad but it is not first time I have bad feeling about this and how they mess with game. And I just think, OK they create veeery interesting battle system, they can change characteristics here and there and yet they do amateur programming which they can´ t solve after. And also..I don ´t understand that mania from chinese making effort showing that everything they create must be better for themselves than western world. They hate west so much or what? :D they´re really putting things better for themselves.

BUT also I don ´t want to be negative. I really appreciate your attention and your insights :) so thx

Thank you for the video. I'm sending this in to be investigated. It's possible that this debuff is meant to be a lock to 50% crit chance (making a debuff with pros and cons, similar to how NY hashirama works), which would not be odd, but it may also be bugged. I'm also checking with the translator to see what the intended verbiage on the text should be. I'll let you know once I have more information. Please feel free to bump this thread in a few days if I haven't responded to you, and I'll bump the requests for further investigation.

Edit: OK, already got word back. It is a mistranslation. As Kiriya said, it is meant to reduce it TO 50%, so the text is incorrect but the ability is working properly. I've put in a request to get the text updated, though I can't promise this will happen immediately since it's a minor change and there's already a backlog on stuff like this, but hopefully it can get fixed soon.

Thanks for letting us know about the error! ^_^

Very thankful for your time and effort <3 :))