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On 2021-06-28 03:34:27Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hello, why in a fight between two players using Edo Tensei Release Madara, the one who has the less power wins the barrier?
Is that intended? Because yeah madara's barrier prevails over any other barrier, right, but beween two players using the same ninja why does the player with less power earn the barrier in this case?

If two players use Edo Minato, the player who has more power will win the barrier, it works like that with every single ninja who has a barrier as passive. Except Edo Madara.
Why? If fighting a guy with Edo Madara and he has less power than I have, MY Madara's barrier should prevail, not his.

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On 2021-06-29 07:47:11Show this Author Only
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Hello,
We've been told that this ninja is supposed to work this way, though we haven't been told why. It's definitely an odd interaction that goes against how barriers normally work. But he also has the potential to poison your own team if you use deep forest wall on yourself, too. Definitely an odd ninja.

Edit: I'm also being told that the barrier casting is apparently based in his personal initiative, not the team initiative, so it's heavily affected by his position in the team, i.e., whether he's p1 or in the support position.




This post was last edited by Tachibana Saeko on 2021-06-29 07:54:00.
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On 2021-06-29 08:01:57Show this Author Only
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Thanks for the reply, very odd indeed.

About the initiative thing... it'll require further testing, so far every battle i've seen with a Madara with poison barrier it was the weaker player's Madara whose barrier prevailed.

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On 2021-06-29 18:34:26Show this Author Only
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so now we have a full susanoo, my katon build, but imo this clearly takes the crown, those are some LUCKY rolls


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On 2021-06-29 19:20:07Show this Author Only
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  • LambertSpinka On 2021-06-29 18:34:26
  • so now we have a full susanoo, my katon build, but imo this clearly takes the crown, those are some LUCKY rolls


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On 2021-06-29 20:21:47Show this Author Only
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the barriers works of the overall initiative (all barriers) not personal initiative, you might have 20k ini on pos1 and 5k on others that would be 35k ini overall but he have 10k on everyone that would be 40k overall thus wining the barrier

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On 2021-06-29 22:51:59Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-06-29 20:21:47
  • the barriers works of the overall initiative (all barriers) not personal initiative, you might have 20k ini on pos1 and 5k on others that would be 35k ini overall but he have 10k on everyone that would be 40k overall thus wining the barrier

Right, that's exactly how I expected it to work since every other barrier in the game works that way.
Yet im finding lesser initiative players win the barrier when I fight them, so i'm confused.

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On 2021-06-30 02:13:41Show this Author Only
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  • Perfect_Cell On 2021-06-29 22:51:59
  • Right, that's exactly how I expected it to work since every other barrier in the game works that way.
    Yet im finding lesser initiative players win the barrier when I fight them, so i'm confused.

It is frustrating, but it has always been like this, even before Madara got his BT. Even back when he was first released he was sometimes recommended as a counter to Edo Minato's barrier because the lower init player would always get the barrier up.

For me, it's really unfortunate, because my P1 has high init relative to my BP, so now when I fight similar/weaker powers who should be getting sc3wed because of their lower init, they instead get the barrier and I'm the one getting poisoned. Almost makes me kinda mad I stacked so hard into P1 initiative lol.

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On 2021-06-30 04:24:43Show this Author Only
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Strip your initiative runes. Give your P2 control ninja more than average initiative, lock their P1 and dominate round 2.

Overstacking isn't permanent, you can trade all of your equipment, mangatamas and runes.

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On 2021-06-30 09:04:18Show this Author Only
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  • brensonlee On 2021-06-30 04:24:43
  • Strip your initiative runes. Give your P2 control ninja more than average initiative, lock their P1 and dominate round 2.

    Overstacking isn't permanent, you can trade all of your equipment, mangatamas and runes.

good luck splitting lvl 14 runes

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On 2021-06-30 21:22:51Show this Author Only
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  • Korren On 2021-06-30 02:13:41
  • It is frustrating, but it has always been like this, even before Madara got his BT. Even back when he was first released he was sometimes recommended as a counter to Edo Minato's barrier because the lower init player would always get the barrier up.

    For me, it's really unfortunate, because my P1 has high init relative to my BP, so now when I fight similar/weaker powers who should be getting sc3wed because of their lower init, they instead get the barrier and I'm the one getting poisoned. Almost makes me kinda mad I stacked so hard into P1 initiative lol.

Completely in agreement.
If Edo Madara has the peculiarity of always beating other ninja's barriers so be it, I can deal with that i'm not against it, but in a fight between two Edo Madara the strongest one's barrier should prevail, not the other way around.

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