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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-26 21:51:00 ｜ Show this Author Only ｜ Descending Order
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Guys.. need know why if my initiative is much more higher than my enemy, why they still start first?...
I don't understand how to manage equipment in survival or is all random?... because I have almost all the initiative items in my main, and he is in 1ª position in the battlefield. Or in survival only works battle armor rank and not the refinement?.
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Overmain
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On 2016-09-26 22:11:58 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Ya i dont understand about this one. Trial n Arena cant see our equip so we dunno which highest equip.
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On 2016-09-26 22:22:03 ｜ Show this Author Only
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u have more initiative? u sure?. u cant see dat in arena or trial.
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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-26 22:58:51 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Well I have all my parts in 125 and 2 of 165 and other of 315... main equipment and also 1ª position in battlefield... battle armor rank 2...
Checked the enemy.. he has 1 part of 165, 3 of 125 and 1 of 210... his battle armor rank is 2 too...
I can only think... my items in the main character are being changed between all my ninjas in survival trial. Any one know why and how to deal with this?.
Also note.. all my other ninjas have 1 part of 125 and the rest is 85

NOTE: those numbers are refinement stats. This post was last edited by Ryonell at 2016-9-26 11:00 This post was last edited by Ryonell at 2016-9-26 11:00
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Feugon
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On 2016-09-26 23:05:42 ｜ Show this Author Only
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I am pretty sure the rank (positioning) effect who goes first.
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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-26 23:12:34 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • Feugon On 2016-09-26 23:05:42
  • I am pretty sure the rank (positioning) effect who goes first.
I know about positioning.. I have my main in 1ª and the enemy I described above with the refinement and stats is also in 1ª... I need to know why he start first the standard attack.
Also in pvp (normal) I start first.. but this is not happening in survival trial... that's why I'm asking.
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Kouka
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On 2016-09-26 23:18:34 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Same thing happen to me, I don't know why some no name players can out speed me in survival. It's annying as F because I don't use healer in team.
And I know I'm way faster than my enemies because I always stay around top 3 sage battle in my servers, as far as I know there are only few players in my server can out speed me and those I met in survival are far from that list.
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Sourav
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On 2016-09-27 01:15:51 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Confused about survival too.. Same things happens, enemy with lower initiative often outspeed me in last battles. Also a strange thing, I use the same main team in survial that normally use everywhere. It has less hp in survival, maybe less stats too.

One more thing: Its about sweep. I can complete whole survival with all ninja alive or barely sacrificing one if needed. It let me sweep till level 9 next day. But, if I change something in my team, remove/add someone, then it won't let me sweep any levels except first level and I have to manually play all of them.

If someone could explain these different facts about survival, tha'd be much appreciated. Why would we have less hp in survial? Why would our gears shift position?
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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-27 02:33:19 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • Sourav On 2016-09-27 01:15:51
  • Confused about survival too.. Same things happens, enemy with lower initiative often outspeed me in last battles. Also a strange thing, I use the same main team in survial that normally use everywhere. It has less hp in survival, maybe less stats too.

    One more thing: Its about sweep. I can complete whole survival with all ninja alive or barely sacrificing one if needed. It let me sweep till level 9 next day. But, if I change something in my team, remove/add someone, then it won't let me sweep any levels except first level and I have to manually play all of them.

    If someone could explain these different facts about survival, tha'd be much appreciated. Why would we have less hp in survial? Why would our gears shift position?
This never happened to me... maybe is based in BP.. what is your current BP right now?. Also I'm starting to think about the equipment... the most probably thing is because my main items are being used in my others ninjas, instead of my main.
I really would appreciate a confirmation of this. :(
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Overmain
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On 2016-09-27 21:07:31 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Or maybe if u put 1st ninja to line up will getting higher equip :Q
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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-27 22:32:55 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • Overmain On 2016-09-27 21:07:31
  • Or maybe if u put 1st ninja to line up will getting higher equip :Q
Already tried this.. and nothing... I really hate this. And no asnwers of mods. :@
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On 2016-09-27 22:49:36 ｜ Show this Author Only
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I know that might be a bit b*, but are your mystery skills prompt? Maybe that's the problem? xD
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On 2016-09-27 22:50:25 ｜ Show this Author Only
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PS: If you want mods to reply, I'd suggest taking this thread into customer service, as a bug
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Kynareth89
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On 2016-09-27 23:03:27 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Qolem you're not even helping. Obviously people who knows about positions and refinements already know what a prompt skill are. Don't try to reply something just for the sake of "being" part of the thread.

I too would like to know as people lower levels then me are also getting ahead of mine ninjas on the same position / move set.
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Ryonell
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On 2016-09-28 00:09:19 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-09-27 22:49:36
  • I know that might be a bit b*, but are your mystery skills prompt? Maybe that's the problem? xD
All main skills are prompt... so this is not the problem.
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On 2016-09-28 00:24:02 ｜ Show this Author Only
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Which is why I added a second post, advising to go into bugs section with this. Do not hate on me so much, I do what I can -.-
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FG3000
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On 2016-09-28 00:41:33 ｜ Show this Author Only
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I've told people this and I've tested it thoroughly.

Teams in survival and especially in practice breakthrough are boosted in some kind of way. One day I'll make a video about it but until then this is what I found.

I went vs a guild mate level 72 (I was 75) in practice breakthrough, his team went first and did enough dmg to kill my Tsuande 2nd turn. His team was so strong and so fast it was insane considering I was about 5kBP higher. I dueled his SAME exact team outside of Survival and I destroyed him with zero issues.

Survival teams but more so practice breakthrough have some kind of buff, I'm certain of it.
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Sanamabits
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On 2016-09-28 00:48:53 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • FG3000 On 2016-09-28 00:41:33
  • I've told people this and I've tested it thoroughly.

    Teams in survival and especially in practice breakthrough are boosted in some kind of way. One day I'll make a video about it but until then this is what I found.

    I went vs a guild mate level 72 (I was 75) in practice breakthrough, his team went first and did enough dmg to kill my Tsuande 2nd turn. His team was so strong and so fast it was insane considering I was about 5kBP higher. I dueled his SAME exact team outside of Survival and I destroyed him with zero issues.

    Survival teams but more so practice breakthrough have some kind of buff, I'm certain of it.
You are correct. Eventhough you have better refines than them. When it comes to survival trial and breakthrough, enemy has boosted stats and it depends on what stage in the survival they are posted. :)

Update: It turns out that in Survival, Your average initiative will be calculated and thats whats goin to be your stats. This post was last edited by Sanamabits at 2016-9-28 01:01
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TerumiMei
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On 2016-10-15 06:49:28 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • Sanamabits On 2016-09-28 00:48:53
  • You are correct. Eventhough you have better refines than them. When it comes to survival trial and breakthrough, enemy has boosted stats and it depends on what stage in the survival they are posted. :)

    Update: It turns out that in Survival, Your average initiative will be calculated and thats whats goin to be your stats. This post was last edited by Sanamabits at 2016-9-28 01:01
Hello! I know it's been a while since this post, but this question still bugs me and this is exactly the answer I was looking for... So one more question: I get average initiative, what about the opponent? Boosted stats/average initiative or boosted stats/normal initiative like they have?

Thank you!
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Sanamabits
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On 2016-10-15 08:05:45 ｜ Show this Author Only
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  • TerumiMei On 2016-10-15 06:49:28
  • Hello! I know it's been a while since this post, but this question still bugs me and this is exactly the answer I was looking for... So one more question: I get average initiative, what about the opponent? Boosted stats/average initiative or boosted stats/normal initiative like they have?

    Thank you!
It's going to be their normal initiative.
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