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On 2021-01-28 21:05:35Show this Author Only
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  • pizzas On 2021-01-28 08:10:42
  • Why do people take "free ninjas" in events for granted? We didn't use to get ANY free ninjas back in the day aside from the monthly login ninja. I'm just happy we got Kidomaru skilltrials cuz can make some fun arena teams with that

    You want good ninjas? How about you play the game, save up coupons for months and max out a good Fuku rebate like everyone else does. It does take a long time to get to that point but with all these rebates the only way to be efficient in this game is to have patience and be active. Please don't go spending your coupons left and right the second you get them just because you "want" something and then later ask for free ninjas because you were too impatient to make actual good use of your savings. Y'all can do better than that

Yes, I've been playing for two years + , really tired already But you right, i f2p player and i received Kisame FM, Sarutobi edo, kimimaro Hell, all this saved up coupon, and I think I have achieved good results for F2p, my power 470, the truth is that all this is achieved for a long time, unlike whales.



P.S. Therefore, I am annoyed by the update brakes and the fact that a lot has been cut during this time.




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On 2021-01-28 21:24:11Show this Author Only
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  • pizzas On 2021-01-28 08:10:42
  • Why do people take "free ninjas" in events for granted? We didn't use to get ANY free ninjas back in the day aside from the monthly login ninja. I'm just happy we got Kidomaru skilltrials cuz can make some fun arena teams with that

    You want good ninjas? How about you play the game, save up coupons for months and max out a good Fuku rebate like everyone else does. It does take a long time to get to that point but with all these rebates the only way to be efficient in this game is to have patience and be active. Please don't go spending your coupons left and right the second you get them just because you "want" something and then later ask for free ninjas because you were too impatient to make actual good use of your savings. Y'all can do better than that

i don't think anyone asked for good ninjas in myoboku... they asked for ninjas in general... as for... "we didn't use to get ANY free ninjas" i tend to disagree, depending on the "era" we talking about...



as for the conversation overall about myoboku... there are plenty of meme ninjas such as the cats and new year and other ninjas, in general those with passives like "good luck this year" and so on, leave "serious" ninjas for fireworks and give us memes in myoboku lol

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On 2021-01-28 21:25:52Show this Author Only
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  • Acquahitomica On 2021-01-28 16:39:12
  • like i wrote to support for an auto-fish or fishing 10 fish same time like other fish-event but nothing changed , so now i start an hastag

    reply all players please:

    #NoCarpaleXCarpare ( is italian language )

    where Carpale is a tunnel Carpale so a injury in the bottom of the hand that is come for take the mouse so may time

    X is a simbol math too of PER italian word (ex 2X4=8) but italian word PER is a english FOR

    Carpare is a italian (joke) word, mean fish a Carpa so take a fish , can be traslate of fishing word

    in english this hastag can be traslate #NoHand-Injury4Fishing but is better the italian version i think

    so if you like this hastag reply fast i hope will have more chances for future change ....( it seem other hastag ) :)


been asking them with every opportunity... still waiting, CN already have it

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On 2021-01-28 23:01:34Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-01-28 21:24:11
  • i don't think anyone asked for good ninjas in myoboku... they asked for ninjas in general... as for... "we didn't use to get ANY free ninjas" i tend to disagree, depending on the "era" we talking about...



    as for the conversation overall about myoboku... there are plenty of meme ninjas such as the cats and new year and other ninjas, in general those with passives like "good luck this year" and so on, leave "serious" ninjas for fireworks and give us memes in myoboku lol

2016-2018 is where ninjas in events weren't given as generous. Now, at least in a month, you will get 2-4 ninjas depending on the events we get.

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On 2021-01-28 23:53:50Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-28 23:01:34
  • 2016-2018 is where ninjas in events weren't given as generous. Now, at least in a month, you will get 2-4 ninjas depending on the events we get.

that's why i said depending on the "era" cuz there are some of us who play even since roshi was the most op shizzle around or even earlier

but i personally feel like from when they added naruto 6p (dont remember exactly the year, was it jan 2018?) feel like the dummbed down most events, ofc there was very few exceptions but mostly like all the events felt nerfed

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On 2021-01-29 00:02:05Show this Author Only
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Save those coups this week f2p!!!
Still waiting for a MacOs fix to play the game that doesn't include having to run a vm.
I haven't been able to play for almost 3 weeks now.

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On 2021-01-29 05:05:12Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-01-28 23:53:50
  • that's why i said depending on the "era" cuz there are some of us who play even since roshi was the most op shizzle around or even earlier

    but i personally feel like from when they added naruto 6p (dont remember exactly the year, was it jan 2018?) feel like the dummbed down most events, ofc there was very few exceptions but mostly like all the events felt nerfed

Actually there were improvement that I did noted as danzo put it, definitely they gave out more free ninjas as late

they also did tried to save the whales as i'd call it, (by customizing the paywall to them),

they try to balance as much as maybe, nver mind, but it's still much limited as a game.

with the exception that they also draw back on myoboku, but so it didn't matter as it's kinda balanced off

(which then is also a part of their effort to not give too much at a go, that can shortcut the lifetime of the game as i see it)

i was and had been convinced many times that this sorta games, are naturally pay2win and know why,

on the developer's side i do hope (in some way) that the cashflow did motivate into making the game better

however i generically still believe the game overalls is still overtly expensive to play,

(now, that maybe a feature of the game on it's own but, i'm personally not convinced)

that it takes so much to pay to play the game at the right fun level, that the fun slowly yet overtly got drained.

As in people are quitting because they had to pay to get more, and more fun, and the price is just not right ?

(I think the way i express my sentiment back then was, I had to pay to get rid of the boredom i felt stifling in)

I tried so hard to stlck to the competitiveness of the game, yet idk how many times i saw people flare over things

myself included for trying to keep up to all the changes and trying to be on top, and lastly

idk if i liked the way i became who i am, by playing and being competitive and winning and losing some friends

which really don't sound right to me now, even though I like the game much and tried enjoying the good times.

there were those who came, played, left an impression, be a buddy and were then gone, and again i move on

some left because the game eat into them in a negative way, others really can't afford the paywall which is high

and in the end, i felt left alone =P like i am going no where. just grinding for the sake of it at a point,

moving life at a snails pace sometimes, and yet hopping on the rush with others at others.

sometimes if not for the forum or my own fancies in other things, like artworks and stuffs i wondered if i would last. XD

(ps: sorry for my ramblings, skip this post if i'm a bother, i know i tend to get mellow at times XD) back to life !!




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On 2021-01-29 05:27:18Show this Author Only
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  • T_0_M_B_0_L_0_C On 2021-01-29 05:05:12
  • Actually there were improvement that I did noted as danzo put it, definitely they gave out more free ninjas as late

    they also did tried to save the whales as i'd call it, (by customizing the paywall to them),

    they try to balance as much as maybe, nver mind, but it's still much limited as a game.

    with the exception that they also draw back on myoboku, but so it didn't matter as it's kinda balanced off

    (which then is also a part of their effort to not give too much at a go, that can shortcut the lifetime of the game as i see it)

    i was and had been convinced many times that this sorta games, are naturally pay2win and know why,

    on the developer's side i do hope (in some way) that the cashflow did motivate into making the game better

    however i generically still believe the game overalls is still overtly expensive to play,

    (now, that maybe a feature of the game on it's own but, i'm personally not convinced)

    that it takes so much to pay to play the game at the right fun level, that the fun slowly yet overtly got drained.

    As in people are quitting because they had to pay to get more, and more fun, and the price is just not right ?

    (I think the way i express my sentiment back then was, I had to pay to get rid of the boredom i felt stifling in)

    I tried so hard to stlck to the competitiveness of the game, yet idk how many times i saw people flare over things

    myself included for trying to keep up to all the changes and trying to be on top, and lastly

    idk if i liked the way i became who i am, by playing and being competitive and winning and losing some friends

    which really don't sound right to me now, even though I like the game much and tried enjoying the good times.

    there were those who came, played, left an impression, be a buddy and were then gone, and again i move on

    some left because the game eat into them in a negative way, others really can't afford the paywall which is high

    and in the end, i felt left alone =P like i am going no where. just grinding for the sake of it at a point,

    moving life at a snails pace sometimes, and yet hopping on the rush with others at others.

    sometimes if not for the forum or my own fancies in other things, like artworks and stuffs i wondered if i would last. XD

    (ps: sorry for my ramblings, skip this post if i'm a bother, i know i tend to get mellow at times XD) back to life !!

the problem is risen due to selective content... if they was to implement everything from CN including meme ninjas and bts people would have had a goal to go or had something to get/do but they bring mostly only expensive/meta ninjas and non of the features, thats why the game feels like you said a grind with no purpose, as for balancing... in CN there is a feature that can give you at least 500-600 cp per week and at best i think 6k (don't remember the rewards on the first places) that balances the f2p and p2w in the sense that even if p2w can gain the same, at least f2p have something to work towards, you know what i mean, most f2p we have now are either building the meta and by the time they fini* the meta is changed or they are in par with the meta but gated by power

wish i could play again on CN but flash says no...

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On 2021-01-29 08:26:38Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-28 20:23:57
  • No, overall the ninjas they give out in myobuku are awful. Just because a few were given were good doesn't represent that the average. Fireworks, on average, gave out better ones.



But, I Thought The Reason As To Why The Fireworks Event Gave Out Better Ninjas (In The End Though) Was (Ultimately) Because It Was Mostly A (User) "Voted In Ninjas" System And Who Rose Up In The First Spot Were Selected For The Next Fireworks Event Though, Danzo San And Also You Could Compete With Other "P2W Players" (As A "F2P Player") Depending On What Ninjas You Saved Up For (With The Coupons You've Earned So Far) To Spend On (That Is As Such Though Although It (Most Likely) Wouldn't Be The "New" Meta Ninja Lineup (At The Time) Though)..Danzo San (Just Saying)




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On 2021-01-29 09:04:48Show this Author Only
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  • Esponix On 2021-01-29 08:26:38
  • But, I Thought The Reason As To Why The Fireworks Event Gave Out Better Ninjas (In The End Though) Was (Ultimately) Because It Was Mostly A (User) "Voted In Ninjas" System And Who Rose Up In The First Spot Were Selected For The Next Fireworks Event Though, Danzo San And Also You Could Compete With Other "P2W Players" (As A "F2P Player") Depending On What Ninjas You Saved Up For (With The Coupons You've Earned So Far) To Spend On (That Is As Such Though Although It (Most Likely) Wouldn't Be The "New" Meta Ninja Lineup (At The Time) Though)..Danzo San (Just Saying)

The only time people had input in deciding which ninja was only for kurenai summer. Every other fireworks decision was made by Oasis.


Yes, you are able to compete but that depends on a lot of factors. Are you fighting the p2w in arena? If so, you have to use a lot of ninja that give out a lot of cc like summer kurenai, hashirama NY, nagato BT, etc or spam zetsu BT's skill. If you aren't vs them in arena, that whale had to stop playing for a long time for you to beat them. For myself, there were a few players who were 200K+ ahead 1.5-2 years ago. Now I have caught up to them. So, on average, f2ps and casual f2ps aren't able to fight against p2ws.

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On 2021-01-30 00:53:48Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-01-29 05:27:18
  • the problem is risen due to selective content... if they was to implement everything from CN including meme ninjas and bts people would have had a goal to go or had something to get/do but they bring mostly only expensive/meta ninjas and non of the features, thats why the game feels like you said a grind with no purpose, as for balancing... in CN there is a feature that can give you at least 500-600 cp per week and at best i think 6k (don't remember the rewards on the first places) that balances the f2p and p2w in the sense that even if p2w can gain the same, at least f2p have something to work towards, you know what i mean, most f2p we have now are either building the meta and by the time they fini* the meta is changed or they are in par with the meta but gated by power

    wish i could play again on CN but flash says no...

Rewarding the entire player base more coupons (evenly) doesn't balance out f2p and p2w. Power gains are easier the more power you have making those free coupons more valuable for p2w. In other words, the ROI for p2w is higher than f2p.

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On 2021-01-30 02:34:38Show this Author Only
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  • brensonlee On 2021-01-30 00:53:48
  • Rewarding the entire player base more coupons (evenly) doesn't balance out f2p and p2w. Power gains are easier the more power you have making those free coupons more valuable for p2w. In other words, the ROI for p2w is higher than f2p.

The point is that f2ps have to balance trying to get meta teams and increasing their power while p2w can do both at once. Coupons help ease the problem for f2ps while they finish up their meta teams and go hard in power.

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On 2021-01-30 05:34:31Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-30 02:34:38
  • The point is that f2ps have to balance trying to get meta teams and increasing their power while p2w can do both at once. Coupons help ease the problem for f2ps while they finish up their meta teams and go hard in power.

Concurrently, p2w will use those same coupons to become more powerful at a quicker rate either with new ninja or power items. As a low spender compared to our highest players, I will never close the gap in power for as long as they spend more than me. The gap will continue to widen for f2p players just the same, but worse because they aren't spending at all.

Unless we're talking about arena/fair fights where power doesn't matter, then...I apologize for the waste of time.

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On 2021-01-30 07:29:42Show this Author Only
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  • brensonlee On 2021-01-30 05:34:31
  • Concurrently, p2w will use those same coupons to become more powerful at a quicker rate either with new ninja or power items. As a low spender compared to our highest players, I will never close the gap in power for as long as they spend more than me. The gap will continue to widen for f2p players just the same, but worse because they aren't spending at all.

    Unless we're talking about arena/fair fights where power doesn't matter, then...I apologize for the waste of time.

Well f2ps need to know they can't catch up to whales so the gap will always be present. However, giving f2ps more access to the in-game currency, it will give a sense to them that they can finally build on power instead having to give up something. That will help the gaming experience. P2Ws won't experience this as they can do both from the start of playing this game.


As a f2p, it would be nice to build teams much quicker to use in the meta, build up coupons to prep for future teams, and use it for power in comparison to what active f2ps have to deal with. Imagine being able to do fuku deals much frequently - instead of the current 3-4 months.




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  • Danzō On 2021-01-30 07:29:42
  • Well f2ps need to know they can't catch up to whales so the gap will always be present. However, giving f2ps more access to the in-game currency, it will give a sense to them that they can finally build on power instead having to give up something. That will help the gaming experience. P2Ws won't experience this as they can do both from the start of playing this game.


    As a f2p, it would be nice to build teams much quicker to use in the meta, build up coupons to prep for future teams, and use it for power in comparison to what active f2ps have to deal with. Imagine being able to do fuku deals much frequently - instead of the current 3-4 months.

I Do Also Agree With Your Statement Above Concerning The Huge Gap Between "P2W Users And F2P Users" As To Building "meta (Related) Teams" At An Efficient Rate (That Is As Such Though), Danzo San And As For My Previous Statement (Above) Concerning The "Fireworks Event" Situation I Am Sorry That I (Must've) Misremembered How Their Process Went For "Selecting Ninjas For Said Event" (That Is As Such Though Since Of The Length Of Time That This Event Had Been Going On For That Is As Such Though) And Also Following Onto Your Second Statement Onwards From That Matter (That Is As Such Though) I Do Agree With You On A "General Scale Of The Matter At Hand" Though (Because Any F2P Player Can (Theoretically) Beat An P2W Player (To A Degree) If You Have The "Right Ninjas At The Right Time" Though..Which Is Unlikely To Happen (Very Commonly That Is) In "Most Use Case Scenarios" That Is As Such Though)..Danzo San

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On 2021-01-30 14:25:48Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-30 07:29:42
  • Well f2ps need to know they can't catch up to whales so the gap will always be present. However, giving f2ps more access to the in-game currency, it will give a sense to them that they can finally build on power instead having to give up something. That will help the gaming experience. P2Ws won't experience this as they can do both from the start of playing this game.


    As a f2p, it would be nice to build teams much quicker to use in the meta, build up coupons to prep for future teams, and use it for power in comparison to what active f2ps have to deal with. Imagine being able to do fuku deals much frequently - instead of the current 3-4 months.

Well most people can barely afford Fuku once a month and that's the free2play and casuals,

with subscription meaning jonin and/or monthly and/or platinum that's already 3 tier there

then there are the p2w spender that put into froggy, given these amount 2 Fuku of 25k is still overloaded within 4 weeks.

unless they overhaul the pricing system, (not that i mind at this point but think that ain't happening Ez)

the thing is whatever they give to free2play, they are also giving to pay2win.

obviously the competition is still there. however > to kill the boredom of the those with subscription is the key here

not the p2w spender, because those are already catered to naturally already. if we want to build a community

then it's the subscription players we are looking to, to make the game filled and fun.

2 weeks and 10k- 15k power fuku then 2 weeks and a 15k- 20k ninja fuku, imo that would be quite good.

plus that is the price level of fuku we used to have before the inflation of prices.





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  • Danzō On 2021-01-30 07:29:42
  • Well f2ps need to know they can't catch up to whales so the gap will always be present. However, giving f2ps more access to the in-game currency, it will give a sense to them that they can finally build on power instead having to give up something. That will help the gaming experience. P2Ws won't experience this as they can do both from the start of playing this game.


    As a f2p, it would be nice to build teams much quicker to use in the meta, build up coupons to prep for future teams, and use it for power in comparison to what active f2ps have to deal with. Imagine being able to do fuku deals much frequently - instead of the current 3-4 months.

kinda exactly what im trying to say, as long as there is a way to gain anything game changing by money there will be a gap (unless the p2w doesn't have any idea how to play, i'v seen it few times, madara 10tails at launch and every new ninja but a lot lower power then they should and stats all over) that's the system, no point in chasing balance between them, but for f2p to have access faster to content... not to mention having it easier for f2p means possible new people, possible new people means possible new spenders... it would help oasis as well

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  • T_0_M_B_0_L_0_C On 2021-01-30 14:25:48
  • Well most people can barely afford Fuku once a month and that's the free2play and casuals,

    with subscription meaning jonin and/or monthly and/or platinum that's already 3 tier there

    then there are the p2w spender that put into froggy, given these amount 2 Fuku of 25k is still overloaded within 4 weeks.

    unless they overhaul the pricing system, (not that i mind at this point but think that ain't happening Ez)

    the thing is whatever they give to free2play, they are also giving to pay2win.

    obviously the competition is still there. however > to kill the boredom of the those with subscription is the key here

    not the p2w spender, because those are already catered to naturally already. if we want to build a community

    then it's the subscription players we are looking to, to make the game filled and fun.

    2 weeks and 10k- 15k power fuku then 2 weeks and a 15k- 20k ninja fuku, imo that would be quite good.

    plus that is the price level of fuku we used to have before the inflation of prices.


The only people who can do fuku every month are whales. Of course that any free items/ninjas is given to all types of players but f2ps will get a better utility from the use in comparison to whales.


Prices on the current fuku deals are mainly reflected due to the demand of the types of ninjas we have. Oasis won't go back to the 20K unless they go back to limited number of power items only fuku deals or include ninjas that are of quality such as Dan [edo tensei], ino/hinata summer, konan kimino (which was done previously), etc. People won't like this as they are used to the ninjas that are currently in fuku deals. From the looks of it, they have been experiment with what the price should be and what to offer from years. When it first came out, they wanted to see if more demand for deals if they added a better ninja at a premium, then wanted to see if 2 ninjas at 40k would work, which seems like it hasn't. Now fuku, deals are floating between 25k-30k, which have the same quality of ninjas. If they want to experiment even further by adding more rewards at the same price or maybe even lower - cool but that is very unlikely based on Oasis's past actions.




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  • Danzō On 2021-01-31 01:11:49
  • The only people who can do fuku every month are whales. Of course that any free items/ninjas is given to all types of players but f2ps will get a better utility from the use in comparison to whales.


    Prices on the current fuku deals are mainly reflected due to the demand of the types of ninjas we have. Oasis won't go back to the 20K unless they go back to limited number of power items only fuku deals or include ninjas that are of quality such as Dan [edo tensei], ino/hinata summer, konan kimino (which was done previously), etc. People won't like this as they are used to the ninjas that are currently in fuku deals. From the looks of it, they have been experiment with what the price should be and what to offer from years. When it first came out, they wanted to see if more demand for deals if they added a better ninja at a premium, then wanted to see if 2 ninjas at 40k would work, which seems like it hasn't. Now fuku, deals are floating between 25k-30k, which have the same quality of ninjas. If they want to experiment even further by adding more rewards at the same price or maybe even lower - cool but that is very unlikely based on Oasis's past actions.

I (Also) Do Agree With You On Your Statement On This Matter As A Whole (That Is As Such Though), Danzo San




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  • Danzō On 2021-01-31 01:11:49
  • The only people who can do fuku every month are whales. Of course that any free items/ninjas is given to all types of players but f2ps will get a better utility from the use in comparison to whales.


    Prices on the current fuku deals are mainly reflected due to the demand of the types of ninjas we have. Oasis won't go back to the 20K unless they go back to limited number of power items only fuku deals or include ninjas that are of quality such as Dan [edo tensei], ino/hinata summer, konan kimino (which was done previously), etc. People won't like this as they are used to the ninjas that are currently in fuku deals. From the looks of it, they have been experiment with what the price should be and what to offer from years. When it first came out, they wanted to see if more demand for deals if they added a better ninja at a premium, then wanted to see if 2 ninjas at 40k would work, which seems like it hasn't. Now fuku, deals are floating between 25k-30k, which have the same quality of ninjas. If they want to experiment even further by adding more rewards at the same price or maybe even lower - cool but that is very unlikely based on Oasis's past actions.

yea i kinda understand ? but i'm still pressing it, not gonna getting used to it just because oasis called for it.

anyways i disagree with the valuation of ninjas need to price up to 30k fuku compare to 15-20-25k

basically 20k is already a high end fuku if you ask me with 25k being a top end,

and 20k is already 33% increase from 15k and 25k is a whooping 66% increase.

you don't find that kind of percentage increase in normal goods and services

i'd accept if its 18k to 25k fuku, given that the ninja reward is really worth it,

besides meta gets old anyways, in other words devaluation does happens too

knowing oasis to put the bait in the end to make everyone spend that extra mile

30k fuku with more power items is not worth, just give us the ninja frags along the milestone way.

and if it's not worth i ain't want to spend 30k at a go in a fuku, i'll stop at 20k

the maths i'm saying is that spliting that to 8-10k power fuku and a 18-20k ninja fuku is far better on two week each,

that give us much better options to complete a half collected ninja with a low power fuku week synergy for example.

and if i don't want the ninja fuku I'll just forgo that entire ninja fuku after all, same with the power fuku.

because at the current rate, events are not synergize to spend coupons on any non fuku week, just saying .. ..

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