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On 2020-04-21 03:08:13Show this Author Only
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I highly doubt this is an original idea by any means, but I think it would be nice if fireworks were to give an optional style pack in which you could choose the frags you like from maybe 2-3 different ninja. As far as which ninja and how many frags is obviously up for debate, but the option to possibly finish one that you have no intention of getting to 4 stars and using the remaining frags to at least start another (as an example) would be preferable to me.

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On 2020-04-21 04:43:27Show this Author Only
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  • ?O?B?I?T?O? On 2020-04-21 02:49:23
  • Most of the fireworks ninja you are suggesting are very obtainable, some of them could be put in consideration like taishao period but you are asking fr way to much from fireworks event.

    1. Sasori [100 Puppets] It is 400 pulls in Sage Naruto Treasure, it was never unobtainable.

    2. Minato [Hokage] I have seen it for redeem everytime in "Fateful Choice" Event.

    3. Itachi [Anbu] Very easy to obtain in Monthly Event (I have him 3 stars and have an extra 55 frags for 4 stars)

    4. Kakashi [Susano'o] It was in last weeks "Lucky *" Event in the wheel you could obtain 15* his frags per spin. (I saw many people have him)

    5. Iruka you can obtain from extra fragment refine I think. Other ninjas like Utakata [Edo Tensei] Hinata [Cloak] Danzo [Izanagi] I have all seen been recently added in redeem shops.

    I could go on for awhile listing ninjas, but I hope you get my point.

    Fireworks Event makes it obtainable to everyone im not saying its a bad thing but all those ninjas?!?!

    Fireworks Event should only have never before obtained ninja for the prize Example: Dan Kato [Edo Tensei], Minato Namikaze [Suit]. These ninjas were almost never seen before and nobody obtained it and now everyone has one.

    And about the ninjas they haven't added very often like taishao period ninjas, suit ninjas, and some retired old ones that would be very reasonable to add back once in awhile.

    If you want ninjas like I mentioned above about the fireworks event, just save up coupons lol, I recently obtained Kakuzu [Earth Grudge Fear] and almost Minato Namikaze[Hokage] (68 Frags).


I understand what u mean by that, also tho even tho sasori is in treasure people won't really draw for it since there's other people would like to go for different treasures instead like gnw or the limited ones, mostly saving for the ones in the seal rebate which is why he'd be there. Some of the ninjas could be listed but given off an 40 frag thing as konan was earlier with the event. Minato is from pack and not most would go for minato, they'd go for hashirama or tobirama due to them having breakthroughs at 3* and minato having 4* instead. Itachi [anbu] just been in the monthly thing but people won't really be able to obtain 80 frags throughout the time, and some missed other opportunities for him due to being a new server. Kakashi yes he was in Lucky and could get 15 frags but that was a ratio of many things going along with it which would be harder for the rest to gain since he ain't really in events as well. Iruka, i've thought about it for him, i know all 80 would be helpful for alot of players but knowing that how good he is as an support and greatly better with breakthroughs they'll do him like they did konan. Plus it's ok about the second post, i know it was an accident.

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On 2020-04-21 04:48:26Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-21 02:57:00
  • I find it hard to believe that the majority of players would be willing to waste a fireworks week on a practical joke that people would use like, once every two months. Yeah, I don't disbelieve that adding cats to fireworks is a suggestion that others have aside from you, but I am 95% certain they are a minority rather than a popular opinion.


    If I wanted to make a funi haha meme troll team, I'd use some outdated farmable unit instead, or someone who was actually in the canon anime.


    If I wanted specifically to get a meme unit, it would be better on like, a Myoboku trial event than a Fireworks week.

I understand that point of view though cause people would rather want someone useable and worth the time to actually spend on, yet sometimes we can't really decide and only suggest my friend. Others' did ask for it, I given off the suggestions they said too not just mine. Even though canon ninjas would be better, there was still some ninjas they only displayed on like filler episodes and yet here they are being really good ninjas. Sometimes can't really judge the characters depending on who they give tho, cause throughout all the times we've had, they've given us people we would enjoy with and people we don't normally use anymore cause we don't have people to fit with them or we just choose not too really.

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On 2020-04-21 07:06:27Show this Author Only
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  • ?O?B?I?T?O? On 2020-04-21 02:49:23
  • Most of the fireworks ninja you are suggesting are very obtainable, some of them could be put in consideration like taishao period but you are asking fr way to much from fireworks event.

    1. Sasori [100 Puppets] It is 400 pulls in Sage Naruto Treasure, it was never unobtainable.

    2. Minato [Hokage] I have seen it for redeem everytime in "Fateful Choice" Event.

    3. Itachi [Anbu] Very easy to obtain in Monthly Event (I have him 3 stars and have an extra 55 frags for 4 stars)

    4. Kakashi [Susano'o] It was in last weeks "Lucky *" Event in the wheel you could obtain 15* his frags per spin. (I saw many people have him)

    5. Iruka you can obtain from extra fragment refine I think. Other ninjas like Utakata [Edo Tensei] Hinata [Cloak] Danzo [Izanagi] I have all seen been recently added in redeem shops.

    I could go on for awhile listing ninjas, but I hope you get my point.

    Fireworks Event makes it obtainable to everyone im not saying its a bad thing but all those ninjas?!?!

    Fireworks Event should only have never before obtained ninja for the prize Example: Dan Kato [Edo Tensei], Minato Namikaze [Suit]. These ninjas were almost never seen before and nobody obtained it and now everyone has one.

    And about the ninjas they haven't added very often like taishao period ninjas, suit ninjas, and some retired old ones that would be very reasonable to add back once in awhile.

    If you want ninjas like I mentioned above about the fireworks event, just save up coupons lol, I recently obtained Kakuzu [Earth Grudge Fear] and almost Minato Namikaze[Hokage] (68 Frags).


I got Sasori 100 puppets from free draw... well anyway...
I wouldnt mind getting Tsunade kimono version for free :D
however, I think people are * hungry in these events... I mean, we got free Jonin Minato, we got free 40 frags of AoG Konan... we got free Teisho Konan... and ppl will always cry they want something more... Sometimes it feels like "Give us meta ninjas for free"...
I bet even if they give us 80* 5k Madara in Fireworks, ppl will cry its not 10 tails Madara...


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On 2020-04-21 07:56:43Show this Author Only
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@Flames/Nova

But either way sasori [100 puppets] is obtainable from treasure lol.

Just because you would rather draw in GNW or 5kage treasure if you really want him you'd draw for him.

They aren't just gonna give away *ready obtainable ninja as I mentioned before but you clearly didn't get my point.

Anyway, to continue my post im saying that the ninjas that have been obtainable recently shouldn't be given for free, then people who actually tried to get someone like Kakashi [Susano'o] (Me) then get him for free in fireworks. It just doesn't work if oasis makes an event on the ninja that makes the ninja obtainable. Therefore, that ninja shouldn't be given for free.

P.S. Some Reason my quote *on doesn't work so I can't quote.




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On 2020-04-21 08:04:02Show this Author Only
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  • ?O?B?I?T?O? On 2020-04-21 07:56:43
  • @Flames/Nova

    But either way sasori [100 puppets] is obtainable from treasure lol.

    Just because you would rather draw in GNW or 5kage treasure if you really want him you'd draw for him.

    They aren't just gonna give away *ready obtainable ninja as I mentioned before but you clearly didn't get my point.

    Anyway, to continue my post im saying that the ninjas that have been obtainable recently shouldn't be given for free, then people who actually tried to get someone like Kakashi [Susano'o] (Me) then get him for free in fireworks. It just doesn't work if oasis makes an event on the ninja that makes the ninja obtainable. Therefore, that ninja shouldn't be given for free.

    P.S. Some Reason my quote *on doesn't work so I can't quote.




I understand that truly, but you know people worked for summer temari last time and they still given her out for firework, suit minato was in events and still given out on firework. Even though you've worked on someone, oasis will still put an what if to giving out certain ninjas no matter what hard work u done, same with jonin minato and shisui, people obtained those through hard work yet later on was given free.

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On 2020-04-22 16:23:42Show this Author Only
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-21 08:04:02
  • I understand that truly, but you know people worked for summer temari last time and they still given her out for firework, suit minato was in events and still given out on firework. Even though you've worked on someone, oasis will still put an what if to giving out certain ninjas no matter what hard work u done, same with jonin minato and shisui, people obtained those through hard work yet later on was given free.

Point exactly. I actually worked (and paid) for my s.Temari, which became a hard staple in my teams since... Then that fireworks rolled around and I 4 starred her but by then she became so common that copycats in my group got her 4 starred f2p and I havn't lived down the ribbing for having paid to get her on release.

I'd hate to start seeing more and more people annoyed over bigger nin like SOSP, Edo *hokage* etc, showing up.

However I'd love to see HB Kushina appear in fireworks If only to playout and start killing her meta -insert syndrome quote.

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On 2020-04-22 23:17:20Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-21 02:57:00
  • I find it hard to believe that the majority of players would be willing to waste a fireworks week on a practical joke that people would use like, once every two months. Yeah, I don't disbelieve that adding cats to fireworks is a suggestion that others have aside from you, but I am 95% certain they are a minority rather than a popular opinion.


    If I wanted to make a funi haha meme troll team, I'd use some outdated farmable unit instead, or someone who was actually in the canon anime.


    If I wanted specifically to get a meme unit, it would be better on like, a Myoboku trial event than a Fireworks week.

See?

People want to have meme cats in fireworks. People want to have Suit ninjas in fireworks. So next time you start complaining how Oasis gives *** ninjas for fireworks take into consideration that maybe that's what community asked for. If they have one person writing to them that they want Konohamaru and another that wants edo Itachi guess which one will they choose to give?

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On 2020-04-23 02:59:54Show this Author Only
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i would really like kakshi susanoo, hes a fairly old ninja, and alot of fun to use, please put him in firework events, and double the milestones if need to

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On 2020-04-23 19:37:13Show this Author Only
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  • BattleCrier On 2020-04-21 07:06:27
  • I got Sasori 100 puppets from free draw... well anyway...
    I wouldnt mind getting Tsunade kimono version for free :D
    however, I think people are * hungry in these events... I mean, we got free Jonin Minato, we got free 40 frags of AoG Konan... we got free Teisho Konan... and ppl will always cry they want something more... Sometimes it feels like "Give us meta ninjas for free"...
    I bet even if they give us 80* 5k Madara in Fireworks, ppl will cry its not 10 tails Madara...


My server started with Jonin Minato in fireworks and nobody complained about him or any Fireworks ninja since, except Suit Minato. The rage would be unbelievable if we actually waiting a whole month for a meme cat ninja. Anyone that suggests such things has either been playing for 3+ years and has everything imaginable and is just trolling, or really needs to have his head examined. 5k Madara would be welcomed with cheer and celebration, without a single complaint.




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On 2020-04-23 22:15:11Show this Author Only
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  • Kharan On 2020-04-22 23:17:20
  • See?

    People want to have meme cats in fireworks. People want to have Suit ninjas in fireworks. So next time you start complaining how Oasis gives *** ninjas for fireworks take into consideration that maybe that's what community asked for. If they have one person writing to them that they want Konohamaru and another that wants edo Itachi guess which one will they choose to give?

"People" as in "100 people out of the 10,000 that play this game", sure. Whatever you say boss, you do you. "People" may want it, but it's far from the "majority" and I have no reason to believe that more than 50%... no, more than 35% of players would genuinely want a fricking meme unit over someone more useful. If you feel like proving me wrong, then now's your chance boss. Show me the stats, show me some meaningful numbers before you brag about one lucky example.


Seriously, you can't be genuinely telling me that people WANT the gently caressing CATS in fireworks, all for a joke that wears off after 20 minutes that you're only going to use maybe once every 3 months. Look me in the eye and tell me with good faith that people would be willing to give up a chance at getting a legitimate character, who was actually in the Naruto anime, for a dumb joke that gets old faster than I can say "Daiske".



Yeah, of course they're going to give the worse choice. Because they pretty much amount to nothing more than a living embodiment of a very specific section of Freud's psycho*ytic theory. You being okay with this is only reinforcing their behavior even further than it has ever, ever needed to be. This horse was beaten dead long, long ago, and you should know that by now considering how long you've been around.




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On 2020-04-23 22:22:57Show this Author Only
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-21 04:48:26
  • I understand that point of view though cause people would rather want someone useable and worth the time to actually spend on, yet sometimes we can't really decide and only suggest my friend. Others' did ask for it, I given off the suggestions they said too not just mine. Even though canon ninjas would be better, there was still some ninjas they only displayed on like filler episodes and yet here they are being really good ninjas. Sometimes can't really judge the characters depending on who they give tho, cause throughout all the times we've had, they've given us people we would enjoy with and people we don't normally use anymore cause we don't have people to fit with them or we just choose not too really.

Hey guys, Tobin here to explain the joke.


So basically, the meme characters like the joke cats are now important enough to be judged at the same level as filler characters? That seems kind of unfair to the filler characters if you ask me. Not to mention the fact that none of what you said is relevant to the cats, since they are completely useless in actual matchups and aren't good whatsoever.


You can say "others asked for it" as much as you want, but that won't get any closer to convincing me that the majority of players, or even more than 25% of the playerbase, would actually be happy to see the cats there in place of a ninja whom they could actually use.




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On 2020-04-23 23:54:32Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-23 22:22:57
  • Hey guys, Tobin here to explain the joke.


    So basically, the meme characters like the joke cats are now important enough to be judged at the same level as filler characters? That seems kind of unfair to the filler characters if you ask me. Not to mention the fact that none of what you said is relevant to the cats, since they are completely useless in actual matchups and aren't good whatsoever.


    You can say "others asked for it" as much as you want, but that won't get any closer to convincing me that the majority of players, or even more than 25% of the playerbase, would actually be happy to see the cats there in place of a ninja whom they could actually use.

Even though the filler characters aren't listen, doesn't mean they won't give. Yet even though the cats don't do much, their fun to use when you're messing around with teams to make for fun. Can't really get upset at what people will want, cause it'll show the greediness in you man. Accept that we're getting ninjas too, cause oasis can just make it to where we have to recharge an high amount to where no one will get the character. I'd rather be grateful for the funny characters they give out, at least we can try something instead of having to be all serious in this game, ease up and have some fun. Many people will rather try having fun in the game then be all out serious cause it'd tend to just being a game others will stop playing since people are too serious. I mean I understand you're statement 100% but even though I can't just think badly on ninjas people will be given free too, oasis will set the time which other feelings will come when they feel like it. So be happy that we getting ninjas man, one thing that's good for f2ps instead of having to save so much for a ninja who'll either countered or already is countered.

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On 2020-04-24 00:43:27Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-23 22:15:11
  • "People" as in "100 people out of the 10,000 that play this game", sure. Whatever you say boss, you do you. "People" may want it, but it's far from the "majority" and I have no reason to believe that more than 50%... no, more than 35% of players would genuinely want a fricking meme unit over someone more useful. If you feel like proving me wrong, then now's your chance boss. Show me the stats, show me some meaningful numbers before you brag about one lucky example.


    Seriously, you can't be genuinely telling me that people WANT the gently caressing CATS in fireworks, all for a joke that wears off after 20 minutes that you're only going to use maybe once every 3 months. Look me in the eye and tell me with good faith that people would be willing to give up a chance at getting a legitimate character, who was actually in the Naruto anime, for a dumb joke that gets old faster than I can say "Daiske".



    Yeah, of course they're going to give the worse choice. Because they pretty much amount to nothing more than a living embodiment of a very specific section of Freud's psycho*ytic theory. You being okay with this is only reinforcing their behavior even further than it has ever, ever needed to be. This horse was beaten dead long, long ago, and you should know that by now considering how long you've been around.

You misunderstand one thing. You are basing your posts on the notion that this game is about majority. No, it is not. It never was and never will. It's about profit. Everyone has to invest something in this game. You either invest your money or you invest your time. Sure if they give out good ninja for free that went out of meta that's great but don't grow accustomed that this'll be a regular thing.

Besides there are plenty of ninjas that you can consider "good". You want to have good ninja? You want to have relevant ninja? Then grind and piece him event by event. You have multiple choices. But what should a person do when he/she wants a particular ninja that didn't appear in events in ages? To you the cat may be * but someone might actually waited for him to appear. Could they put him in another event? Not really since putting him in fireworks would be the most beneficial for the company. But as long as there is one person who genuinely wrote to oasis that he/she wanted the meme cat in fireworks for whatever reason, be it finishing collection or just because the cat is cute (and I believe there would be such a person) and is happy with getting said cat because it didn't have another way of getting him then I won't complain that the've given **** ******* cat for fireworks.

So I don't have to prove you anything. Majority of the people didn't want rune or refine updates. They even held pool on that. Did anything came out of "majority" voting no? So if you came here looking for democracy or whatever ideals you have in your head, I have some bad news for you. They will chose the one person that voted for the cat over 10 000 that voted for edo Itachi.



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On 2020-04-24 06:51:26Show this Author Only
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  • Kharan On 2020-04-24 00:43:27
  • You misunderstand one thing. You are basing your posts on the notion that this game is about majority. No, it is not. It never was and never will. It's about profit. Everyone has to invest something in this game. You either invest your money or you invest your time. Sure if they give out good ninja for free that went out of meta that's great but don't grow accustomed that this'll be a regular thing.

    Besides there are plenty of ninjas that you can consider "good". You want to have good ninja? You want to have relevant ninja? Then grind and piece him event by event. You have multiple choices. But what should a person do when he/she wants a particular ninja that didn't appear in events in ages? To you the cat may be * but someone might actually waited for him to appear. Could they put him in another event? Not really since putting him in fireworks would be the most beneficial for the company. But as long as there is one person who genuinely wrote to oasis that he/she wanted the meme cat in fireworks for whatever reason, be it finishing collection or just because the cat is cute (and I believe there would be such a person) and is happy with getting said cat because it didn't have another way of getting him then I won't complain that the've given **** ******* cat for fireworks.

    So I don't have to prove you anything. Majority of the people didn't want rune or refine updates. They even held pool on that. Did anything came out of "majority" voting no? So if you came here looking for democracy or whatever ideals you have in your head, I have some bad news for you. They will chose the one person that voted for the cat over 10 000 that voted for edo Itachi.



I'm very well aware of how little the majority means, but I did not intend to debate by the cramped constraints of Oasis's rules and behaviors when I started this discussion. I'm saying that I think this is how it should be theoretically, in a more ideal world. We may not be in that world necessarily, but pushing for progression to that state is never a bad thing. The viewpoint you're holding is incredibly cynical and completely counterproductive to practically any positive change that the community could try to push. It's a 100% understandable mindset considering this company's track record, but I still don't think that "this will never happen" is a viable reason to not only give up, but actively try to shut down others who want to enact positive progress.


Like, personally, I believe world peace is impossible to get because humankind is just too individualized to not get into fights over stuff. Does that make it pointless to try and create world peace? I dunno boss, it's still a good thing to reduce the overall amount of conflict in the world, even if it's never going to be completely gone. Either way, it feels like we're getting nowhere. Might be a good idea to just drop it and agree to disagree, but if you want to continue I'm all for it.

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On 2020-04-24 07:03:21Show this Author Only
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-23 23:54:32
  • Even though the filler characters aren't listen, doesn't mean they won't give. Yet even though the cats don't do much, their fun to use when you're messing around with teams to make for fun. Can't really get upset at what people will want, cause it'll show the greediness in you man. Accept that we're getting ninjas too, cause oasis can just make it to where we have to recharge an high amount to where no one will get the character. I'd rather be grateful for the funny characters they give out, at least we can try something instead of having to be all serious in this game, ease up and have some fun. Many people will rather try having fun in the game then be all out serious cause it'd tend to just being a game others will stop playing since people are too serious. I mean I understand you're statement 100% but even though I can't just think badly on ninjas people will be given free too, oasis will set the time which other feelings will come when they feel like it. So be happy that we getting ninjas man, one thing that's good for f2ps instead of having to save so much for a ninja who'll either countered or already is countered.

Hey gamers, Tobin here. Today I learned that if I get a piece of literal po0p in the mail and want literally anything else else, I'm being greedy, because I should be grateful for getting mail in the first place.


Joking aside, I think the cats aren't funny in the slightest, and I can't stand seeing them, but that's just me and myself. Like I said, if I was gonna make a joke team I'd use actual canon characters, aka anyone who isn't a cat or a Hebihime.

I feel like whenever this type of discussion comes up, there's always a group of people who think we should be grateful for getting free stuff in the first place, and a group of people who think we should be getting more. Honestly, I can see where you're coming from to some extent, but I still think that saying "we should be grateful for this" is like saying "we should be happy that we have lunch breaks at work". Anyways, I think that's about all I'll say on this matter.

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On 2020-04-24 12:36:22Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-24 07:03:21
  • Hey gamers, Tobin here. Today I learned that if I get a piece of literal po0p in the mail and want literally anything else else, I'm being greedy, because I should be grateful for getting mail in the first place.


    Joking aside, I think the cats aren't funny in the slightest, and I can't stand seeing them, but that's just me and myself. Like I said, if I was gonna make a joke team I'd use actual canon characters, aka anyone who isn't a cat or a Hebihime.

    I feel like whenever this type of discussion comes up, there's always a group of people who think we should be grateful for getting free stuff in the first place, and a group of people who think we should be getting more. Honestly, I can see where you're coming from to some extent, but I still think that saying "we should be grateful for this" is like saying "we should be happy that we have lunch breaks at work". Anyways, I think that's about all I'll say on this matter.

You're gonna have to think like how oasis will put their formats for events and how they think. You can't really expect canon and good ninjas who will be put in meta or still has an meta worth. I mean I already said I understood what you meant for the characters given and wanting canon people instead. Yet we'll not always get it, lately has been people good yes ,but you c*so just get things for free. They can duplicate the people or even add ones we'll not mostly use in like real events where we need to be serious but even tho, it'll be a fun thing to even just have an character no matter how good or bad they are. Oasis can easily take down the event and here we are having to work for people who aren't even gonna be in events anymore, so as I said, be grateful that we get these ninjas instead of thinking down on them.

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On 2020-04-24 14:04:17Show this Author Only
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You should have said edo minato.

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On 2020-04-24 14:47:03Show this Author Only
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  • Christ The Beas On 2020-04-24 14:04:17
  • You should have said edo minato.

Wouldn't have been put there at all sadly, due to how useful and how many events he's in frequently.

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On 2020-04-24 15:56:34Show this Author Only
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  • TobinExplains On 2020-04-24 06:51:26
  • I'm very well aware of how little the majority means, but I did not intend to debate by the cramped constraints of Oasis's rules and behaviors when I started this discussion. I'm saying that I think this is how it should be theoretically, in a more ideal world. We may not be in that world necessarily, but pushing for progression to that state is never a bad thing. The viewpoint you're holding is incredibly cynical and completely counterproductive to practically any positive change that the community could try to push. It's a 100% understandable mindset considering this company's track record, but I still don't think that "this will never happen" is a viable reason to not only give up, but actively try to shut down others who want to enact positive progress.


    Like, personally, I believe world peace is impossible to get because humankind is just too individualized to not get into fights over stuff. Does that make it pointless to try and create world peace? I dunno boss, it's still a good thing to reduce the overall amount of conflict in the world, even if it's never going to be completely gone. Either way, it feels like we're getting nowhere. Might be a good idea to just drop it and agree to disagree, but if you want to continue I'm all for it.

This game and forum don't deserve someone with your eloquence and wisdom Tobin. Always happy to read your thoughts.

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