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On 2020-04-20 02:55:57Show All Posts
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Hey guys, Tobin here to explain the joke.



So basically, Fireworks SHOULDN'T be a joke and 100% shouldn't give out joke ninja like the cats.



It's neat that you've compiled up a list, but don't give them the idea to make fireworks worthless for a week because it gives out a worthless cat.
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On 2020-04-21 02:57:00Show All Posts
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-20 07:11:10
  • Yes I know how you feel from the cats being on the list but it wasn't just me that given the suggestion, others did too that I asked. Giving out cats tho, would be people making troll teams and at least adding a little fun to the game where people will laugh and see a cat rolling around town lol

I find it hard to believe that the majority of players would be willing to waste a fireworks week on a practical joke that people would use like, once every two months. Yeah, I don't disbelieve that adding cats to fireworks is a suggestion that others have aside from you, but I am 95% certain they are a minority rather than a popular opinion.


If I wanted to make a funi haha meme troll team, I'd use some outdated farmable unit instead, or someone who was actually in the canon anime.


If I wanted specifically to get a meme unit, it would be better on like, a Myoboku trial event than a Fireworks week.




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On 2020-04-23 22:15:11Show All Posts
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  • Kharan On 2020-04-22 23:17:20
  • See?

    People want to have meme cats in fireworks. People want to have Suit ninjas in fireworks. So next time you start complaining how Oasis gives *** ninjas for fireworks take into consideration that maybe that's what community asked for. If they have one person writing to them that they want Konohamaru and another that wants edo Itachi guess which one will they choose to give?

"People" as in "100 people out of the 10,000 that play this game", sure. Whatever you say boss, you do you. "People" may want it, but it's far from the "majority" and I have no reason to believe that more than 50%... no, more than 35% of players would genuinely want a fricking meme unit over someone more useful. If you feel like proving me wrong, then now's your chance boss. Show me the stats, show me some meaningful numbers before you brag about one lucky example.


Seriously, you can't be genuinely telling me that people WANT the gently caressing CATS in fireworks, all for a joke that wears off after 20 minutes that you're only going to use maybe once every 3 months. Look me in the eye and tell me with good faith that people would be willing to give up a chance at getting a legitimate character, who was actually in the Naruto anime, for a dumb joke that gets old faster than I can say "Daiske".



Yeah, of course they're going to give the worse choice. Because they pretty much amount to nothing more than a living embodiment of a very specific section of Freud's psycho*ytic theory. You being okay with this is only reinforcing their behavior even further than it has ever, ever needed to be. This horse was beaten dead long, long ago, and you should know that by now considering how long you've been around.




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On 2020-04-23 22:22:57Show All Posts
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-21 04:48:26
  • I understand that point of view though cause people would rather want someone useable and worth the time to actually spend on, yet sometimes we can't really decide and only suggest my friend. Others' did ask for it, I given off the suggestions they said too not just mine. Even though canon ninjas would be better, there was still some ninjas they only displayed on like filler episodes and yet here they are being really good ninjas. Sometimes can't really judge the characters depending on who they give tho, cause throughout all the times we've had, they've given us people we would enjoy with and people we don't normally use anymore cause we don't have people to fit with them or we just choose not too really.

Hey guys, Tobin here to explain the joke.


So basically, the meme characters like the joke cats are now important enough to be judged at the same level as filler characters? That seems kind of unfair to the filler characters if you ask me. Not to mention the fact that none of what you said is relevant to the cats, since they are completely useless in actual matchups and aren't good whatsoever.


You can say "others asked for it" as much as you want, but that won't get any closer to convincing me that the majority of players, or even more than 25% of the playerbase, would actually be happy to see the cats there in place of a ninja whom they could actually use.




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On 2020-04-24 06:51:26Show All Posts
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  • Kharan On 2020-04-24 00:43:27
  • You misunderstand one thing. You are basing your posts on the notion that this game is about majority. No, it is not. It never was and never will. It's about profit. Everyone has to invest something in this game. You either invest your money or you invest your time. Sure if they give out good ninja for free that went out of meta that's great but don't grow accustomed that this'll be a regular thing.

    Besides there are plenty of ninjas that you can consider "good". You want to have good ninja? You want to have relevant ninja? Then grind and piece him event by event. You have multiple choices. But what should a person do when he/she wants a particular ninja that didn't appear in events in ages? To you the cat may be * but someone might actually waited for him to appear. Could they put him in another event? Not really since putting him in fireworks would be the most beneficial for the company. But as long as there is one person who genuinely wrote to oasis that he/she wanted the meme cat in fireworks for whatever reason, be it finishing collection or just because the cat is cute (and I believe there would be such a person) and is happy with getting said cat because it didn't have another way of getting him then I won't complain that the've given **** ******* cat for fireworks.

    So I don't have to prove you anything. Majority of the people didn't want rune or refine updates. They even held pool on that. Did anything came out of "majority" voting no? So if you came here looking for democracy or whatever ideals you have in your head, I have some bad news for you. They will chose the one person that voted for the cat over 10 000 that voted for edo Itachi.



I'm very well aware of how little the majority means, but I did not intend to debate by the cramped constraints of Oasis's rules and behaviors when I started this discussion. I'm saying that I think this is how it should be theoretically, in a more ideal world. We may not be in that world necessarily, but pushing for progression to that state is never a bad thing. The viewpoint you're holding is incredibly cynical and completely counterproductive to practically any positive change that the community could try to push. It's a 100% understandable mindset considering this company's track record, but I still don't think that "this will never happen" is a viable reason to not only give up, but actively try to shut down others who want to enact positive progress.


Like, personally, I believe world peace is impossible to get because humankind is just too individualized to not get into fights over stuff. Does that make it pointless to try and create world peace? I dunno boss, it's still a good thing to reduce the overall amount of conflict in the world, even if it's never going to be completely gone. Either way, it feels like we're getting nowhere. Might be a good idea to just drop it and agree to disagree, but if you want to continue I'm all for it.

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On 2020-04-24 07:03:21Show All Posts
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  • Flames/Nova On 2020-04-23 23:54:32
  • Even though the filler characters aren't listen, doesn't mean they won't give. Yet even though the cats don't do much, their fun to use when you're messing around with teams to make for fun. Can't really get upset at what people will want, cause it'll show the greediness in you man. Accept that we're getting ninjas too, cause oasis can just make it to where we have to recharge an high amount to where no one will get the character. I'd rather be grateful for the funny characters they give out, at least we can try something instead of having to be all serious in this game, ease up and have some fun. Many people will rather try having fun in the game then be all out serious cause it'd tend to just being a game others will stop playing since people are too serious. I mean I understand you're statement 100% but even though I can't just think badly on ninjas people will be given free too, oasis will set the time which other feelings will come when they feel like it. So be happy that we getting ninjas man, one thing that's good for f2ps instead of having to save so much for a ninja who'll either countered or already is countered.

Hey gamers, Tobin here. Today I learned that if I get a piece of literal po0p in the mail and want literally anything else else, I'm being greedy, because I should be grateful for getting mail in the first place.


Joking aside, I think the cats aren't funny in the slightest, and I can't stand seeing them, but that's just me and myself. Like I said, if I was gonna make a joke team I'd use actual canon characters, aka anyone who isn't a cat or a Hebihime.

I feel like whenever this type of discussion comes up, there's always a group of people who think we should be grateful for getting free stuff in the first place, and a group of people who think we should be getting more. Honestly, I can see where you're coming from to some extent, but I still think that saying "we should be grateful for this" is like saying "we should be happy that we have lunch breaks at work". Anyways, I think that's about all I'll say on this matter.

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On 2020-04-25 01:41:13Show All Posts
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  • Kharan On 2020-04-24 20:28:22
  • You say that "but pushing for progression to that state is never a bad thing". Is it though? Because right now your behaviour is akin to some poor girl living in an abusive relationship that keeps coming back each week for more slaps because she believes she will reform her "sweethart" through the sheer amount of willpower and arguments alone. Even if she keeps getting back yet another black eye in return. You'd ask where is the breaking point? Where is the straw thet breaks the camels back? Is it truly beneficial to said girl to * with her "beloved" if all she gets is punches?

    Each week is the same complain, complain, complain. Have the * and quit playing if everything bothers you so much. If everyone that says "Another *ty events week I'm quitting" actually held true to their word perhaps it'd force some change. Either that or the game would just shut down. But whatever, it's just a couple of pixel on the screen anyway. Take joy in small things for you never know when they'll be taken away or changed for much worse.

I think that's a rather vivid and over-the-top @nalogy for a browser game, but let's roll with that and go on your terms boss. If I'm the abused girlfriend who speaks out and tries to reform her boyfriend, then you're the abused girlfriend who does nothing, who has already been broken and just su.cks it up because she's happy that she has a boyfriend at all even if he's terrible. I could say the exact same thing to you – if you are willing to use such an extreme @nalogy to describe the devs, then why don't you just leave too?


No an@logy is necessarily perfect, but this @nalogy doesn't 100% mesh with the cir*stance because the relationship between an individual player and a company isn't in a vacuum. If we really want to make this accurate, then put the abusive boyfriend is in a polygamous relationship with 1000s of people, so that if some lucky girl actually DOES get him to change, it affects way more than just their relationship. It affects all the other ones too. Think of it like reforming a toxic family member. Not only do you have one less negative presence in your life, but the rest of your family doesn't have to deal with them anymore too.


Edit: Kinda hypocritical of me to bring up an equally vivid an@logy, huh? I'll add the disclaimer that this particular scenario isn't half as intense or important as the toxic family member example. I brought it up to make a parallel point regarding the mechanics of the dynamic, rather than the intensity.




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