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On 2019-07-21 00:29:57Show this Author Only
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  • its thatboy On 2019-07-21 00:10:37
  • @Koncept


    I was 2nd place for most fire works, and didnt spend a coupon. My group is so dead. We had about 4 "active" members at the time the event started. I added about 1 more relevant member since then. The rest are either fodder begginers, or alts that never really do anything.


    And Regardless, Considering we got so many of her frags first day, I'm almost certain most groups would either have all of her frags or the majority by the end of the event. You can spin it any way you want. At the end of the day, she's available for free. For doing absolutely nothing other than what you'd already be doing if the event didn't exist. Or for just being a part of a group.

I'm sure most group will get her and it's definitely possible to get 500+ contribution by the end of the week. All I am saying is dead groups won't get her unless they spend or become active again. I only expect 4 of the 10 groups doing the event on my server to get her. She can be obtained completely free, I'm just saying there will be some groups who don't get her due to the fact they have too many unactive members or not enough of them spent for her. This is a group effort event. Not going to respond anymore. I've said what I needed to.




This post was last edited by Koncept on 2019-07-21 00:30:43.
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On 2019-07-21 00:42:25Show this Author Only
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@Koncept


My group is as dead as can be, most people will have her on my server for free at the end of the day. And it reallly irritatees me. I'm super upset by it because I love sakura and dumped so many coupons on Summer and Sailor Sakura! And they gave both of them away for free?!?!??!?!? Why!?!?


They already gave sailor sakura away. They could have chosen anyone else, but they went for sakura again?


Most of these people sit and do nothing, and there's summer sakura sittting right there for them. I spent over 20k coupons on sailor sakura, and I honestly don't know how much i spent on summer sakura. but my coupons were all gone when I got her. Both are given away for free!


It takes away the feeling that its special to have her, or spend coupons on her. I just don't understand why they're giving away such an op ninja. what sense does this make? At least give away christmas sakura. Not summer sakura. Come on. I love sakura so much, but I keep getting stabbed in the back everytime I spend coupons on her.




This post was last edited by its thatboy on 2019-07-21 01:34:07.
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On 2019-07-21 02:54:06Show this Author Only
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@Koncept


P.S. You're dead wrong.


I just found out a group on my server with only 3 active members is nearly halfway to their summer sakura! and what is this? The third day of the event? Amazing.

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On 2019-07-21 04:57:47Show this Author Only
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  • its thatboy On 2019-07-21 00:42:25
  • @Koncept


    My group is as dead as can be, most people will have her on my server for free at the end of the day. And it reallly irritatees me. I'm super upset by it because I love sakura and dumped so many coupons on Summer and Sailor Sakura! And they gave both of them away for free?!?!??!?!? Why!?!?


    They already gave sailor sakura away. They could have chosen anyone else, but they went for sakura again?


    Most of these people sit and do nothing, and there's summer sakura sittting right there for them. I spent over 20k coupons on sailor sakura, and I honestly don't know how much i spent on summer sakura. but my coupons were all gone when I got her. Both are given away for free!


    It takes away the feeling that its special to have her, or spend coupons on her. I just don't understand why they're giving away such an op ninja. what sense does this make? At least give away christmas sakura. Not summer sakura. Come on. I love sakura so much, but I keep getting stabbed in the back everytime I spend coupons on her.

First off, when you fought the other guy what team was he using? Itachi's 50% ninjutsu decrease only work on the first 2 PURE ninjutsu attack. That means it doesn't work on 6P mystery and Shizuka because they do Tai and Nin damage in their mystery. But Itachi's ninjutsu decrease work on AGK, edo Hiruzen, Kakuzu grudge....

Secondly, it's obvious that ninja prices are going to decrease with time. Of course, there are some exception like Susano Sasuke and AY in the ballon event. Sailor Sakura meta is over and if you have spent coupons on Summer Sakura you got the benefit of having her before us who didn't pay anything for her.

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On 2019-07-21 05:17:00Show this Author Only
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  • its thatboy On 2019-07-21 02:54:06
  • @Koncept


    P.S. You're dead wrong.


    I just found out a group on my server with only 3 active members is nearly halfway to their summer sakura! and what is this? The third day of the event? Amazing.

How so I said either active group or spending group and that group is obviously spending coupons. 3 members and are halfway (2000 points) if it's evenly split that's 666.6 repeating points. You get 5 packs a day with usually 5-10 points each gonna say at most 100 points a day plus bonus fireworks meaning they should be in the 200-300 range per person. Total around 800-900 if none of them spent. I have 395 points and I spent like 200ish coupons.




This post was last edited by Koncept on 2019-07-21 05:19:28.
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On 2019-07-21 07:27:17Show this Author Only
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@Koncept


No, they are not spending. And you dont get just 5 packs a day. you can get bonus fireworks as well. And at the end of the day, If it takes one Newbie in a dead group to spend the coupons they happen to have on hand, then it still means most people in every server are getting her free, Not just "The really major active groups" or "big spenders" like you said. If it only takes one newbie spender who doesnt even know what they're doing, it still means most of every server is getting her for free. So while I appreciate your input, it doesn't do much for me.


@mohmunihih


Sorry bruh. its time for sleepers. I'll respond to you later.




This post was last edited by its thatboy on 2019-07-21 07:28:31.
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On 2019-07-21 07:52:58Show this Author Only
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  • its thatboy On 2019-07-21 07:27:17
  • @Koncept


    No, they are not spending. And you dont get just 5 packs a day. you can get bonus fireworks as well. And at the end of the day, If it takes one Newbie in a dead group to spend the coupons they happen to have on hand, then it still means most people in every server are getting her free, Not just "The really major active groups" or "big spenders" like you said. If it only takes one newbie spender who doesnt even know what they're doing, it still means most of every server is getting her for free. So while I appreciate your input, it doesn't do much for me.


    @mohmunihih


    Sorry bruh. its time for sleepers. I'll respond to you later.

I feel like my point is being understood. I also never said those quotes. You acknowledged the fact that a "newbie" spending coupons in a dead group will help the group get summer sakura and that's sorta what I have been trying to say. Dead groups need spenders to get her. While groups with 20+ active players will be fine getting her for free. Maybe even less active members.

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On 2019-07-21 11:35:41Show this Author Only
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@Koncept



No, my point was hypothetical. And it was ONE hypothetical newb, not multiple Newbies. One newb spending a small amount of coupons, thus giving the whole group sakura for free by the end of the event would still be the same thing as being free compared to my 20k plus spending on her.



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On 2019-07-21 12:24:55Show this Author Only
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  • its thatboy On 2019-07-21 11:35:41
  • @Koncept



    No, my point was hypothetical. And it was ONE hypothetical newb, not multiple Newbies. One newb spending a small amount of coupons, thus giving the whole group sakura for free by the end of the event would still be the same thing as being free compared to my 20k plus spending on her.



Yes she is free to an extent. I'm not sure how you're misunderstanding this. Example: For each player in a group to get her it requires lets say 7-10 active members. If you have that I consider that a fairly active group and that group should get her just fine without spending. Groups with lets say 5 or less active members more than likely will not be able to get the full 80 frags due to the fact they cannot get the rest of her fragments since we are limited to 5 boxes a day (1 for each daily chest). That group would then have to spend coupons to get the rest of the fragments, so in there case she isn't completely free. I hope that better understands it. This is my last comment this has turned into a rant when I am simply pointing out she may not be free for all groups. Some will get her for free, some group members may have to spend to help the other members of there group get her.

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On 2019-07-21 19:28:03Show this Author Only
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@Koncept


It does not take 7-10 active people! 3-4 people can do it. In a dead group. Here you go again trying to project your inaccurate estimations on this issue.


And I don't understand why you keep coming here to clarify she technically isn't free. It doesnt make me feel any better when I spent over 20k coupons, and all everyone else has to do is sit idle in a group while they literally get her for free! You can say Izuna isn't technically free, but I don;t see anyone saying that! It takes more time and work to get Izuna than it does sakura!




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On 2019-07-22 16:33:23Show this Author Only
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Edo itachi halves the damage of the 1st two pure ninjutsu attacks (standard or mistery).

Your resistance may be off the charts but that means nothing against taijutsu attacks (pure tai or even the ones combined, tai and nin).

There are a lot less ninjas or methods that buff your defensive than your resistance, thus your defensive tends to be way lower than your res during the fights.

Also, not trying to be mean, but aren't you guys tired of complaining about what u get for free and what you do not get for free? It's never right with you guys....you complain that you do not get ninjas for free and then after you get a ninja for free you start complaining about which ninja is for free (don't you think that's like being a bit spoiled?).

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On 2019-07-23 08:55:06Show this Author Only
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@Yoddle


Its a different story when they put both sakura's out for over 20k coupons, and then just give her away for free after I spent all the time and hardwork and spent all my coupons on both sakuras! And I never complain about ninja they don't give out for free.

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On 2019-07-23 16:53:36Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2019-07-20 06:19:45
  • power becomes harder to get the higher you go, so a 9k bp difference with him stacking his m1, would be a much bigger difference if he wasn't stacking.


    also consider, if his m1 had 25k injury, but his m2/3/4 only had 10k, but all of your ninjas had 15k you may have much more injury on your ninjas than his back line which helps close the bp gap, but since the difference is so much smaller comparatively it feels like you don't do much damage after getting 1 shot., also remember the higher your crit the more often u crit up to 95% chance, so if ur not critting u it for even less than his m1 is since hes critting 95% of the time vs your 20%?, which is again a huge difference.


    the current power features heavily support stacking just 1 ninja and using the other 3 to buff it, or who have some special feature to give u that slight advantage, edo itachi to reduce nin dmg and cc an enemy or edo minato for the barrier to prevent chakra gains. against a s06p naruto, u WANT your backline dead so he wont heal off them, which makes stacking an m1 an even better idea.


    nerfing injury wont solve the problems, because later on, ninjas have so much hp that u cant kill them easily, so u need that bonus crit dmg or u will never be able to kill 1 enemy ninja. while saying that might make % tactics sound like a good idea if we nerf injury, it ends up having the same effect as leaving injury without the % tactics at higher bp and at lower bp things just die to whoever is faster with ninjas like edo hiruzen being more op for their raw dmg


    what is really needed is power features like 5 natures chakra, which gives a % of ur m1 stats to the rest of ur ninjas on top of giving them their normal amount of stats when u work on them, so the m2/3/4 end up getting more stats total than the m1, but that would require tweeking so it can be finished on the m1 sooner to let the m2/3/4 actualy have time getting the stats, but again with the current feature set people would rather get less power and stack it onto the m1 for more results.

Yep, nerfing injury by itself indeed would not solve the issue, but there's no need for 1 single stat on one single move to be this important when you actually have 4 moves and 5 other stats per move that modify, on paper, the damage you land (attack, ninjutsu, tai p3netration, nin p3netration, nature damage), nor is necessary for injury to almost always be linked to features that give also critical. Imho you should be compelled to choose between injury and critical hit rate after a certain point (25k?) and to spend really really a lot to have both (10 times as much as now at least).

What you say is indeed true about nature chakra feature. That feature and more features like mt.myoboku and ninja assist indeed help in solving the issue in general.




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On 2019-07-23 17:05:31Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-07-21 04:57:47
  • First off, when you fought the other guy what team was he using? Itachi's 50% ninjutsu decrease only work on the first 2 PURE ninjutsu attack. That means it doesn't work on 6P mystery and Shizuka because they do Tai and Nin damage in their mystery. But Itachi's ninjutsu decrease work on AGK, edo Hiruzen, Kakuzu grudge....

    Secondly, it's obvious that ninja prices are going to decrease with time. Of course, there are some exception like Susano Sasuke and AY in the ballon event. Sailor Sakura meta is over and if you have spent coupons on Summer Sakura you got the benefit of having her before us who didn't pay anything for her.

Lets say is over at our mortal levels of power.

If we had 4 positions like our move 1 would be way less over.

The reason why is actually over is that is useless to heal 8/9k once every 3/4 rounds when you get hit by 15k every round in battles against people at your same power.

It's the same thing with life recovery secondary stats and those treasure tool scrolls that heal you for 12/15% hp.

Both would be quite good if we actually had even stats but since none have them both are very bad.

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