Alrighti. There is something I want to talk about. Firstly the Summons Runes
The limit is what 13/14? Why can't wait push that to 20? It only gives ba
Next Gold Refines. We need gold refines, CN has gold refines, in fact they are free with sun coins. Why can't we have the same thing? You guys seem to don't understand. Power is nice. The fact that Devs gave us Runes to 14? This is good. This is good power. And over time you can get free cave keys which you can spend on cave key rebate. This is not a bad thing.
The same thing should be implemented with Gold Refines, Only if Gold Refines are free in Sun Coins.
Lastly. % Tactics. this should be costly. And the big money maker. Since you people like to whine about % Tactics. Make it 30k Ignots for just 5 of any kind. So people stop whining. Power is always nice. Power is good.
Goo Team Osasis <3 I love you Daisuke! This is Ramenkage.
lets try to look at this from a serious point of view.
1) any single feature that increases move 1 secondary stats without increasing by the same amount of higher move 2-3-4 secondary stats has absolutely to not be implemented in game at our current state.
2) about current caps, what i think is that increasing the cap for summon runes, magatamas and battle armor "upgrade" side would be actually a good move if and only if getting to level 9 magatamas and level 12 summon runes becomes way less expensive than now.
3) adding % tactics if limited exclusively to defense, resistance and life primary stats would actually be a good move, if instead it implies to add also ninjutsu and attack primary stats, no, would be quite bad.
Go troll somewhere else.
I changed my mind. Also remember to set 5* requirement for all future breakthroughs. Agree with OP. If you want to make different version, lets not use some lame half measures.
lets try to look at this from a serious point of view.
1) any single feature that increases move 1 secondary stats without increasing by the same amount of higher move 2-3-4 secondary stats has absolutely to not be implemented in game at our current state.
2) about current caps, what i think is that increasing the cap for summon runes, magatamas and battle armor "upgrade" side would be actually a good move if and only if getting to level 9 magatamas and level 12 summon runes becomes way less expensive than now.
3) adding % tactics if limited exclusively to defense, resistance and life primary stats would actually be a good move, if instead it implies to add also ninjutsu and attack primary stats, no, would be quite bad.
I agree with you. That would not be a bad move on osasis. Summon runes Increase from 12-14 to 16-18 isn't bad cuz we get summon scrolls extremely easily and we use them during summon scroll rebate. It's free power so why not?
% Tactics on Def/Resist and Life along side Nin/Tai penearantion should also be good. Instead of Nin/Attack and Sub stats like Crit/Injury/Etc
Why are you guys so negative? Power is power we need a lot more power functuntions
it's not negativity, did you just realize what you just said? you're basically saying "let's empower the top people, and leave the weaker people eating dust..." that's what i interpret from it.
Look if you want to implement more "power" features, okay sure, but dont complain if someone idd does beat you round 1, it becomes boring gameplay for both parties at one point.
You still misunderstand. These functions help pay to win yes. They functions will always help pay 2 win first. Because they have the most money. Over a period of time. It will helper the poorer people. Think of it as a long way to gain power over time. And No I am not trolling I've always been for more power functions. I've told Daisuke on Offical several times, Addision as well and Tobei. Please for the love of god add % Tactics and Gold Refines.
These can be good for the game. And can help everyone. Because at the end of the day. We'll eventually get them. Why not start now? So people can start spending!!
You still misunderstand. These functions help pay to win yes. They functions will always help pay 2 win first. Because they have the most money. Over a period of time. It will helper the poorer people. Think of it as a long way to gain power over time. And No I am not trolling I've always been for more power functions. I've told Daisuke on Offical several times, Addision as well and Tobei. Please for the love of god add % Tactics and Gold Refines.
These can be good for the game. And can help everyone. Because at the end of the day. We'll eventually get them. Why not start now? So people can start spending!!
again you miss my point, why should we get them, and by the time we do, the gap is still there, and will always be there, the point im making is, unless you're willing to spend more than the other guy, you always going to lose if you dont spend i guarantee you 90% times.
This game is Pay two win. If you don't spend u will never caught up. SO get to spending we want your money <3 More you spend for us the more we will get richer. Honestly. Please put in systems of power q.q
well i give you +1 for honesty, but no.
You know what feature needs the lvl cap increased?
8 gates. It'll benefit everyone, especially lower powers who can lvl their purple/oranges easier than red,
Leveling red is more efficient in terms of stats to cost ratio. And increasing the lvl cap on the 8G runes wont change anything, as this feature is the only one power featured that is where you progress with gold, not coupons or ingots. I was top1-3 each 9tails for last 2 years more or less, I dont even have 1 full page of 7x lv11 reds.
If anything, this system needs quality over quantity change.
Leveling red is more efficient in terms of stats to cost ratio. And increasing the lvl cap on the 8G runes wont change anything, as this feature is the only one power featured that is where you progress with gold, not coupons or ingots. I was top1-3 each 9tails for last 2 years more or less, I dont even have 1 full page of 7x lv11 reds.
If anything, this system needs quality over quantity change.
8Gates needs lots of quality of life overhauls, an example such as keep pulling and auto combining lower tier ruins instantly. It takes literally hours of doing it just to waste time. Something as simple as setting that A. auto sells the none rune pulls and B. have a setting that auto fuses runes below a certain quality.
I have so many coins that the last digit can't even be seen, and even half that amount takes 3 hours of clicking 2 *ons in 8 Gates. Making using 8 Gates not hell is just one kindness that would make everyone life easier, after that addressing the power of the feature since its on the weaker side would be nice, but just usability is needed.
would be nice if at low level you click three menus, such as spend limit, level quality limit, and more depending. This allowing to at low level say spend only 5 mill coins, and any rune below blue fuse, priority fire runes, just so you can get a good stock of them. Or once your deep in the money, just set it to spend until you fill all the slots with gold+ runes so that it doesn't take forever to do so.
Please tell me you're joking. All the things you mention above is comeplety nonsense at this time. The gap between f2p and p2w is at its finest state and all you want to do apply these game breaking components to the game? did you see what happened when the 13 14 runes came out? No one asked for that and do people feels grateful? No, I don't think so
Also the game was about a place where you can find the enjoyment and relaxation, not where you can spend cuz you can't get rid of your money. If you want to spend, go ahead but don't force people to spend like you. Notice that the game is not p2w favor anymore, 90% players is f2p so p2w is minor and why apply things that's favor the minors?
P/S: Do you know how broken the %tactic will become when it comes to the game? Go watch DE server and you will know why people don't want this function. (Minato hokage can deal like 5-10k dmg per standard in round 1 even against the same power. And in our server only mysteries deal the same a mount of that dmg if the power gap isn't huge which is suitable with current hp ratio. lf you love the game, play it don't break it!
Why are you guys so negative? Power is power we need a lot more power functuntions
Because they are not the power function required right now to make the game more enjoyable, not even if you are at 900k power.
The game for too long have been a race to make your move 1 more stacked, making useless the other 3 moves and this denies the effectiveness of any strategy that is not focused on full buffing a super nuking team, and it was so up until now, when finally ninja assist and nature chakra features were beginning to rebalance a bit the things, and what do they do? They break the very minimum balancement we began to have again and for no reason.
What is required right now is to increase by a lot the endurance and survivability of move 2 and, overall, move 3 and 4.
We actually need something like nature chakra feature but multiplied by 10 on the effectiveness on move 2/3/4 and features that give more defense/resistance/damage reduction/elemental resistance and injury on move 2/3/4 only.
What we are getting instead are two more megatons to move 1.
What you don't seem to get is that if i want to run an heavy healing/endurance team i shouldn't be compelled to pay 4 times the amount required to run a nuking team.
Did you not ask to yourself why none is running anymore water main? Why almost everybody is struck on earth and fire main or very niche teams with wind main?
What's good in this?
To answer to your point, yes, this game is p2w, but there's no reason that you have to pay this low to actually win and that you do it you have exclusively to follow one kind of strategy
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