yep, those two teams are quite op if used correctly (i suppose the kushina you talk about is normal kushina, the one that summons clones, not the habanero version).
Yes it's kushina Uzumaki, normal version. It's the key point for the two teams to work (if 3 stars). For the wind main version because may use her mystery to eventually wake up wind main or hashirama, for the water version for the same reason and also because the clones that die grant stacks to nature energy gathering. A shark bomb with 4+ stacks begins to hit hard. Overall this works if the enemy in round 1 use kisame samehada or madara 5ks to break edo tobirama bond skill barrier. In that case you have a 100% sure combo starter in kushina (unless the clone dies) that give 1 free stack to minato + immobile.
For the record, you only need Gakido's Y mystery. His Y+1 just increases the shield from 40% res to 50%. Also, Y+1 is the cap, not Y+2.
Also, I just tested that team out. You c*e Minato's mystery every round but round 1, as far as I can tell (I was only able to put it into practice up through round 5, cuz that's when Kakashi dies). It's pretty crazy. And for every round except round 10, his mystery can be used at the very beginning of the round. However, this requires a LOT of using his mystery the turn before, which is super vulnerable to interrupts and stuff. Generally speaking, doing that is not recommended.
The idea is that you use it only if you are 100% sure to not be interrupted, otherwise you just freeze the round using kisame samehada or madara 5ks (that's way he said to bring them in as your 4th ninja, not only for round 1. Consider that dance of impetus reduces to 0 the cd of them too)
just test it ur self first dude . Hokage minato is highest than edo minato. And minato jonin with bond skill mystery is higher than edo minato lol (as we already knew, in the battlefield, our damage is not raw damage, scaling damage by either from chakra or chase or passive are very important)
dont be fooled by other players, just save ur coupons to get naruto six path, or try to get edo deidara 4stars or kakuzu egf 4 stars, when their skill trial is available, u will get endgame line up :)
but if u are a whale/heavy spenders with very high power, then u can buy that edo minato.
I suggest "CO" to watch amber channel first, he is a infamous youtuber of naruto online, he seems like quit the games or kind of ,so he rarely upload videos nowadays
Hokage minato is simply the version of the 3 that has the easiest way to stack his self buff.
But on par stats and par number of stacks of the self buff what garv says is indeed true.
It's just that hokage minato starts round 2 generally with 1/2 stacks of the buff while edo minato doesn't do it.
U said "You c*e Minato's mystery every round but round 1" , its not aplicable dude, since ur wind main or gakido will get controlled by opponents ninja lol
and when ur support ninjas dies, ur team is doomed
like i said unless he is a whale who has tons of power, edo minato is not worth it
He is not meant to work good with our current average power level, exactly like madara 10 tails, edo hashirama and sasuke rinne sharingan.
If you talk about our current situation where you have a lot of blind move 1 stackers with no power on move 2-4 where, basically, every single match is a duel between two move 1 then yes, is like you said,but when your move 2/3/4 begins to have the same or close to the same secondary stats as your move 1 (primary will be always way different) then you'll discover that the 'support' don't die because your move 1 most of the times doesn't crit and if crits just do it for +40/50% of the damage due to a very low difference in injury stat.
P.S. Gakido has for 3 rounds a selfbuff of 60% to resistance, is not that easy to bring down and this becomes a 40% unremovable with his y+1 passive.
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