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On 2019-03-05 00:59:27Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hello guys,

I would like to ask about a few things. First, does anybody have Edo Minato lineups with fire main? Second, how much does he cost and where should I buy him from? Lastly. how is his mystery damage? Is it okay or is it bad? Thank you!

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On 2019-03-05 01:09:31Show this Author Only
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I use him pretty exclusively with wind main for the mystery reset, so I can't answer the first question. As for the others, I believe he usually runs about 20k. I picked him up in the dancing capsule event for about 13k (as did many others in my server once we figured out that math), but that was an exception and I wouldn't expect it to happen again. As for his mystery damage, it's fine. It's the lowest of the three minatos, but it's not so bad as many people claim it is. The big selling point is it hits multiple fields unlike jonin, and is completely undodgeable unlike both of the other two, making it the only undodgeable guaranteed interrupt that I know of. That is the true reason to use him, not his damage. Pair him with a kisame or other such chakra drainer (looking at you sage Hashi), and with a fast slot 1 you can completely deny your opponent any mysteries the round he goes off (with the exception of 0 chakra mysteries which you have to watch out for)

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On 2019-03-05 04:04:56Show this Author Only
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DONT EVER BUY edo minato, he is not good enough, his damage is super super super weak just like kakashi susanoo. If u wanna buy him, u will regret it unless u have tons of power than ur opponent or in the other word, unless you are a heavy spenders lol

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On 2019-03-05 04:23:35Show this Author Only
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he works exclusively with wind and water main.

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On 2019-03-05 04:54:20Show this Author Only
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  • gastorpedo On 2019-03-05 04:04:56
  • DONT EVER BUY edo minato, he is not good enough, his damage is super super super weak just like kakashi susanoo. If u wanna buy him, u will regret it unless u have tons of power than ur opponent or in the other word, unless you are a heavy spenders lol

I'm a f2p and I bought and I'm not regretting.

I used him pos1 with naruto kurama pos2 bee and light main (for leech) and worked very well the damage isn't that bad. Its unforgeable so causing lot of damage to dodge ninja is better than not causing at all

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On 2019-03-05 05:42:50Show this Author Only
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  • gastorpedo On 2019-03-05 04:04:56
  • DONT EVER BUY edo minato, he is not good enough, his damage is super super super weak just like kakashi susanoo. If u wanna buy him, u will regret it unless u have tons of power than ur opponent or in the other word, unless you are a heavy spenders lol

Is his damage really that bad? I've heard it's okay

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On 2019-03-05 06:08:20Show this Author Only
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  • C0 On 2019-03-05 05:42:50
  • Is his damage really that bad? I've heard it's okay

I haven't seen Edo Minato used too much, so I don't know too much regarding his damage...


But I can actually see Edo Minato being amazing for Ranked Battle, primarily for his mystery. It's an undodgable 10 unit interruption, which could stop most enemy mysteries, and hit at least 1/3 of the field.

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On 2019-03-05 06:17:10Show this Author Only
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Good thing about edo minato and kurama naruto combo is that you have undodgeable mystery followed by undodgeable chase. Downside of this lineup is that currently most meta teams are based on 1 main dmg ninja, 2 supports and main and kurama takes a lot of potential utility you could get while offering only this chase effect. Unless you finished p1 completely and are pretty high in upgrading p2 I feel like this lineup has more drawbacks than advantages. Overall I wouldnt recommend buying him in order to use him, more likely for a cool transmog and ranked battle (whatever your reason might be to do that tho).


@C0

His damage is like kage minato but without kunai passive. Minato ina nutshell:

Pros:

+unconditional aoe interrupt

+immune

+tag+ignite on hit

+dodge

+- scaling on chase up to 2 times (see below)

+future bond barrier with edo hokages and required to have to unlock future bond mystery of kurama naruto (useless for now)

Cons:

- 3r mystery cooldown

- no mystery reset mechanic

- cant proc dodge (vs dodge you deal damage 2 times in 6 rounds, while jonin can deal up to 6 times and kage up to 12times in 6 rounds provided jonin resets and kage isnt controlled)

-unreliable scalling (doesnt chase after own mystery or standard, so once your team is dead minato doesnt get any stronger)

-tag/ignite is useless vs natural immunes

In comparison to our current meta pick sosp your minato is most likely to scale in r1 and r2 (assuming you own ini and are similar bp), after that you lose in 10r battle because you dont deal damage and he both damages you and heals himself back.




This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2019-03-05 06:31:10.
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On 2019-03-05 19:02:38Show this Author Only
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X Edo hashirama edo minato

Wind main kushina x

X x x


Talents 32114, summon: koh.


Kushina water main x

Edo hashirama edo minato x

X x x


Talents: 22443 or 23443, summon koh.





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On 2019-03-06 00:03:54Show this Author Only
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  • C0 On 2019-03-05 05:42:50
  • Is his damage really that bad? I've heard it's okay

yes, very bad

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On 2019-03-06 00:42:36Show this Author Only
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  • gastorpedo On 2019-03-06 00:03:54
  • yes, very bad

Unless you actually own the ninja and/or consistently played against him, don't throw nonsense around. When I use him against comparable powered players, his mystery still does 4-5k against their stacked pos 1, which is the best honest to evaluate damage. Honestly, that amount is on par with or even slightly better than most of the current dps units when you look at what they do to opposing pos 1s at comparable powers.

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On 2019-03-06 01:00:33Show this Author Only
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  • goalie720 On 2019-03-06 00:42:36
  • Unless you actually own the ninja and/or consistently played against him, don't throw nonsense around. When I use him against comparable powered players, his mystery still does 4-5k against their stacked pos 1, which is the best honest to evaluate damage. Honestly, that amount is on par with or even slightly better than most of the current dps units when you look at what they do to opposing pos 1s at comparable powers.

Also of note, Edo Minato's mystery triggers repulse, which is a cut above all other mystery chase statuses. Repulse essentially means that all enemies behind the target take 150% damage rather than 100%. No other Minato has repulse on his chase.

Also, Edo Minato pairs well with Edo Sasori, and Edo Sasori is amaaaaazing. The constant revives are a huge deal.


Also, OP, here's an Edo Minato team for fire main that is otherwise totally F2P:

proxy (39)

Note that Kirin is not at all necessary. The purple deer works just fine; Kirin just gets an extra hit over the deer at the end of Minato's standard attack chase. You c*so move fire main to either of the two positions behind Minato. I wouldn't recommend stacking both Ay and your main behind Minato, though. Ninjas like Shisui (with a strong repulse SA) and Madara [Founder], Edo Itachi, or Edo Hiruzen (with their strong whole-row SAs) are way too common right now to recommend a 3-ninja line.




This post was last edited by Gorm on 2019-03-06 01:00:45.
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On 2019-03-06 03:37:28Show this Author Only
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u will get regret it if u bought edo minato, unless you are a heavy spenders who has bigger bp, trust me. On top of that u need to win initiative attribute to make full use of him (only whales c*e him, even in arena, he is very very very week)

u better save up for naruto six path or angel konan or even just use jonin minato.

the biggest-smallest damage between 3 kind of minatos are Hokage Minato (the biggest damage), jonin minato with bond mystery, and then edo minato

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On 2019-03-06 04:25:10Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-03-05 19:02:38
  • X Edo hashirama edo minato

    Wind main kushina x

    X x x


    Talents 32114, summon: koh.


    Kushina water main x

    Edo hashirama edo minato x

    X x x


    Talents: 22443 or 23443, summon koh.





yep, those two teams are quite op if used correctly (i suppose the kushina you talk about is normal kushina, the one that summons clones, not the habanero version).

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On 2019-03-06 04:27:51Show this Author Only
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  • gastorpedo On 2019-03-06 03:37:28
  • u will get regret it if u bought edo minato, unless you are a heavy spenders who has bigger bp, trust me. On top of that u need to win initiative attribute to make full use of him (only whales c*e him, even in arena, he is very very very week)

    u better save up for naruto six path or angel konan or even just use jonin minato.

    the biggest-smallest damage between 3 kind of minatos are Hokage Minato (the biggest damage), jonin minato with bond mystery, and then edo minato

as rough damage dealt, edo minato has the highest outcome.

the only issue is the 3 rounds cd for the mystery,

that said now we have a good and easy to get ninja that works fine with him and is gakido with his mystery y+2

pair him with wind main and you basically have the mystery every round for the first 5 rounds but round 1 (use a madara 5ks or kisame samehada as the 4th ninja and is done)

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  • Garv On 2019-03-06 04:27:51
  • as rough damage dealt, edo minato has the highest outcome.

    the only issue is the 3 rounds cd for the mystery,

    that said now we have a good and easy to get ninja that works fine with him and is gakido with his mystery y+2

    pair him with wind main and you basically have the mystery every round for the first 5 rounds but round 1 (use a madara 5ks or kisame samehada as the 4th ninja and is done)

For the record, you only need Gakido's Y mystery. His Y+1 just increases the shield from 40% res to 50%. Also, Y+1 is the cap, not Y+2.


Also, I just tested that team out. You c*e Minato's mystery every round but round 1, as far as I can tell (I was only able to put it into practice up through round 5, cuz that's when Kakashi dies). It's pretty crazy. And for every round except round 10, his mystery can be used at the very beginning of the round. However, this requires a LOT of using his mystery the turn before, which is super vulnerable to interrupts and stuff. Generally speaking, doing that is not recommended.




This post was last edited by Gorm on 2019-03-06 05:14:32.
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On 2019-03-06 05:29:40Show this Author Only
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  • Gorm On 2019-03-06 04:35:51
  • For the record, you only need Gakido's Y mystery. His Y+1 just increases the shield from 40% res to 50%. Also, Y+1 is the cap, not Y+2.


    Also, I just tested that team out. You c*e Minato's mystery every round but round 1, as far as I can tell (I was only able to put it into practice up through round 5, cuz that's when Kakashi dies). It's pretty crazy. And for every round except round 10, his mystery can be used at the very beginning of the round. However, this requires a LOT of using his mystery the turn before, which is super vulnerable to interrupts and stuff. Generally speaking, doing that is not recommended.

U said "You c*e Minato's mystery every round but round 1" , its not aplicable dude, since ur wind main or gakido will get controlled by opponents ninja lol

and when ur support ninjas dies, ur team is doomed

like i said unless he is a whale who has tons of power, edo minato is not worth it

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On 2019-03-06 05:55:43Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2019-03-06 04:27:51
  • as rough damage dealt, edo minato has the highest outcome.

    the only issue is the 3 rounds cd for the mystery,

    that said now we have a good and easy to get ninja that works fine with him and is gakido with his mystery y+2

    pair him with wind main and you basically have the mystery every round for the first 5 rounds but round 1 (use a madara 5ks or kisame samehada as the 4th ninja and is done)

just test it ur self first dude . Hokage minato is highest than edo minato. And minato jonin with bond skill mystery is higher than edo minato lol (as we already knew, in the battlefield, our damage is not raw damage, scaling damage by either from chakra or chase or passive are very important)

dont be fooled by other players, just save ur coupons to get naruto six path, or try to get edo deidara 4stars or kakuzu egf 4 stars, when their skill trial is available, u will get endgame line up :)

but if u are a whale/heavy spenders with very high power, then u can buy that edo minato.

I suggest "CO" to watch amber channel first, he is a infamous youtuber of naruto online, he seems like quit the games or kind of ,so he rarely upload videos nowadays






This post was last edited by gastorpedo on 2019-03-06 06:06:25.
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On 2019-03-06 06:13:08Show this Author Only
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  • goalie720 On 2019-03-06 00:42:36
  • Unless you actually own the ninja and/or consistently played against him, don't throw nonsense around. When I use him against comparable powered players, his mystery still does 4-5k against their stacked pos 1, which is the best honest to evaluate damage. Honestly, that amount is on par with or even slightly better than most of the current dps units when you look at what they do to opposing pos 1s at comparable powers.

you are the one who throwing nonsense lol

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On 2019-03-06 06:37:27Show this Author Only
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  • gastorpedo On 2019-03-06 06:13:08
  • you are the one who throwing nonsense lol

your comments in this thread so far equate to "don't buy, whale only ninja" (debatable, undodgeable interrupt is good for anyone) and "damage lower than other minatos so must be bad damage" (which in reality only means there are two ninjas with higher damage than him). also other people, myself included agree that his damage is lowest of the minutes, and you know what? it's STILL good damage. and unlike the other two edo minato can't be controlled. he's not a blitz ninja, he's a midrange ninja

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