7th gate guy, yw.

:D love this!

Am i the only 1 around here who beats him in any given 1v1?

with what team

With Fukurokumaru, Zaku, and boy Kakashi.

Is that not how you beat him?

this one is from 2 weeks ago. at that time i had 210k power. he owned initiative.

Any reason why he didn't target your main since you still have health?

Pretty much just a copy and paste of the post I made that got removed

Well, actually you could, when you simultaneously attack and chase him to death on round 1, but given that he has support ninjas like Azure healing, or Crimson's shield, that's very unlikely.

In fact, as Naruto SP owner, once in Sage, I fought against opponent's with "70K" BP difference, I am around 90K that time, and guess what; I won. He's formation wasn't free ninjas, but premium one; I forgot which ninjas and main. Even though I won because he is AFK, that showed how capable Naruto SP is. 20K+? He's worth it! Save your coupons guyss...

SOSP naruto is just simply too OP, unlike other ninja like minato, konan angel, or kurama naruto, his standard attack to reset his mystery is broken, even though you have a ninja like han, tendo or kimimaro that deflect standard attack, or dodge ninja in front of him, just letting him hit 1 of your ninja or main will reset his mystery, he is unstopablle mystery spammer. even more SOSP naruto standard attack has a HIGH change of resetting his mystery.

unless you beat your opponent in power, or beat him with money, nothing can stop him.

Lets face it guys please... He is a premium ninja with 20k coupons that normally goes with at least another support with 20k coupons too.

If you put it like this, then if you have a 2*20k coupons ninjas you could manage to beat him.

Don't complain about him when you are a f2p that use normal ninjas or outdated premium ninjas that cant beat him.

he is good and pretty much good actually for 20k but he is not a God. if you have well stacked minato and 5k madara you can beat him

if you have konan and anbu yamato and fire main you c*so beat him. but you need to invest in ninjas to be able to beat a premium ninja.

Personally I face him in any given day with opponents same as my bp and still manage to kill him. just focus to kill the other 3 ninjas and don't waste your mystery on him in the first 2 rounds (only chases attacks that he suffer is enough) then on round 3 when all his team is dead you can kill him very easy. but ofc you will need to invest wisely to be able to do that.

My guess is that he bet on the fact garv used sand dust and not dance of impetus (like actually was, since this is what the picture shows), and that he hoped to immobilize in round 2 minato with the chase triggered by madara founder mystery after that naruto popped the dodge, way undervaluing the level of damage minato + konan mystery would have delivered on him (if garv didn't misplay he put in queue minato mystery asap, selecting the target tagged by minato in round 1) and i guess kisame was faster than madara 5ks, managing to interrupt it in round 1 (i suppose for faster he meant naruto only).

That said even if the 220k didn't behave so and selected main, the outcome would have been the same.

Since round 4 onwards, regardless what happened in round 2 and 3 (unless there is some serious misplay on garv side), is a match between a 100 chakra konan and a selftacking atk/combo + first hit dodge hokage minato. 100% granted win unless the naruto is 20k+ power stronger than konan, because naruto simply never reduces cd (he just owns a +45% bonus if and only if uses mystery asap, that means to let konan be free to hit when her mystery is available, while konan with 100 chakra owns +100% and minato in round 4 has in the worst case 5 stacks of his selfbuff) while minato stacks attack and once every two rounds pops naruto dodge with his own mystery letting so konan hit him and reduce cd too.

Even if he manages to interrupt konan every time, minato in round 6+ is so stacked that almost flat out kills naruto by himself with his two unavoidable special attacks + standard attack once every two rounds.

Im sorry to tell you that that couldn't possibly be more wrong. Actually 6p Naruto's Standard has one of the worst (if not actually the worst) Reset of the game. Compared to what you are thinking, naruto doesn't reset his mystery just by comboing any ninja, he needs to combo ALL ninjas he hits with his standard, which instantly makes dodge ninjas, and block ninjas (like kimimarou or han) an instant non-reset for him, unless you bait them before getting hit (which is possible when his mystery activates every round).

His standard combo rate is comparable to that of KCM naruto, with that only exception, but he also gets a lesser combo buff by using his mystery, so it isn't strange to see him NOT comboing even with that. This is the reason almost everyone that uses 6p naruto uses him with a Fan ninja tool, because it increases combo rate, which is fundamental for him to "do mystery every round", he actually needs a lot of it, and if you see him comboing in teams with han or kimimarou that often, theres three posibilities:

1.They have really low combo stat in those nins (Kimimarou for example, his block isn't almost 100% guaranted unlike Han's) and so Naruto can just combo them by overwheelming stat difference.

2. Naruto isn't hitting that ninja with his standard, remember there is usually 4 ninjas in a team, its not unlikely naruto will hit the other 3 ninjas without dodge/block and reset his mystery.

3.They are using bee or any team that makes naruto do standard 2 times, and i do need to explain this one? also this is the most common team used for 6p Naruto currently, if you are fighting one of these, they will most likely be able to reset his mystery, even in the first round.

If you have doubts about it just try him in arena and see yourself how terrible his combo rate and reset is compared to other similar ninjas. Outside arena the stacking (which is when you over stack with power your position 1 ninja, so it has the highest stats from your whole team) will make naruto much more effective and he will reset much better. Actually, almost every mystery reset ninja relies a lot in combo stat to be viable, with the few exception of Yagura edo tensei, or swimsuit temari, whose mystery resets with their chasers.

Naruto relies a lot in his mystery to be useful, or "OP". There's no need to keep saying there's already counters for him and that he isn't as good as many are painting him, he relies more on his team and your BP than you and others might think.

yeah, happened exactly this.

in round 1 he used asap madara and i interrupted it with kisame (i was faster on move 2, slower on move 1)

in round 2 i used minato as soon as i noticed he used naruto mystery (my move 3 was faster than his one) and i was a bit shocked when my main was not selected (or he made a mistake in clicking or he hoped to do what scarlett said. he wasn't on auto otherwise he would have wasted main mystery in round 1. then, after naruto landed i used konan too.

in round 3 naruto hit main and selfhealed, kisame didn't die by few hp.

since round 4 onwards went like scarlett said and how always go with a comparable power six paths.

anyways, as he said, even if selected main, the outcome more or less would have been the same.

I totally agree with this where I put Fan for Naruto as his treasured tool.

As SP owner, I can confidently tell you that his combo isn't that good, which means he doesn't reset that much, especially when compared to Kurama version.

The rest of this guy's points are truely true.

Its sad that people straight up give up and think there is no way to beat this ninja.

I have beat this ninja with numerous teams; In many scenarios the naruto was stronger than my position 1.

In one instance we have hokage minato. His tagging kunai, which does a considerable amount of damage, goes through dodge is sinply extra damage over his mystery and standard. He buffs himself so this kunai slice becomes even more lethal.

We also can counter this ninja with Ay 4th raikage-doesnt even need to be skillbroken to serve as a counter. Think about it ou are using a ninja who can leach heal just like naruto but does an insane anount of damage. Instead of dodge he has superarmor and his immunity comes after you use his mystery. In additiom his standardignores dodge. Use that to your benefit haha.

Theres also Kushina but anyone that plays this game can understand her use as a counter.

Just gotta keep your hopes up that ninja is good but not impossible to beat all

Here you are wrong.

Actually is enough that naruto triggers his effect on 1 of the 3 targets he selects to reduce cd.

The fact you only see a multiple of 3 combos if he fails or a multiple of 5 combos if he gets a success is only a graphical effect to let your enemy know if naruto reduced the cd or not (otherwise the enemy would have no way to know it).

This condition makes his standard attack 10 times better than kurama's if the combo rate stat of naruto is high.

If you don't believe me, face somebody with 1 move with 5k higher combo than your naruto and 1 move with 5k less combo and tell me how many times naruto fails in triggering the cd reduction. (is not difficult, it's enough you enemy has 16k combo, you 11k and the 2nd ninja of your enemy 6k)

If what you say was true naruto should fail almost always

If what i say is true (and is so) naruto reduce cd almost always.

80k power minato. and now im spreading power so you even take less damage from his basic attack. this team shines in defeating edo hiruzens even i did beat teams with 50K more power. Team also works great in space time auto. In arena beat 6 path all day.

re-balancing games with nerfs and buffs are great, imo.

Honestly, I don't even give any credence to ideas of how something CAN be beaten.
In these kinds of games, I think the real issue is whether or not something is format-warping.

If something is making people feel forced to discard most every idea in search of something that can possibly beat another particular team then there's a very good arguement that the playing experience could be improved via buffs/nerfs in a game.

I remember when Magic: the Gathering was losing players left and right and the Standard format that was its bread and *er was what is commonly accepted as the worst ever. There was a land called Tolarian Academy and everyone was playing 4 copies (the max allowed) in all of their decks. The first player to land one was winning literally 90% of all the games in the format - basically, it was stoopid. Some of the top players started doing fairly well with a mono-green deck that literally couldn't use the land at all but still played a full 4 copies in their decks along with some spell cards that allowed them to 'fetch' it - since the rules at the time meant if you had one on the table then the opponent couldn't play one. That is the kind of format-warping nonsense that resulted because of the overpowered nature of this one card. For the record, that deck would end up losing in one of the largest tournaments ever played up to that point, despite being piloted by some of the best players in the world, to just a regular ol' Tolarian Academy deck.

Now, here's the big thing though: it's not just that the card was broken and too good. The format was garbage because everyone was forced into doing the same things and the game became all about that one card. The idea of MTG and why it's been so unbelievably popular and successful is that you can build whatever kind of deck you want and employ countless different strategies to try and beat your opponents. The format under Tolarian Academy, however, took all those illusions people had of building all these different kinds of decks with the countless different cards the game gave you.... and it threw it out the window.

Similarly, Naruto Online gives us an absurd number of different ninjas we are supposed to be able to use - wouldn't the game be better if we felt like we were able to use most of them?

Buffs and nerfs are awesome, imo.