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[ Lineup ] Gengetsu's such a Grenadier. He's got Dual Pistols, Sniper Rifle, and a Grenade

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On 2019-02-04 03:23:17Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Gengetsu is one of my favorite Edo characters in the Narutoverse. So it's kind of disappointing that he's no longer in the new meta now. :/ But there IS a reason he was a part of the old meta. I decided to make a decent team for nostalgia.. and he turned out to literally be a Grenadier Commando. His standard attack is Dual pistols. That mystery is a Sniper Shot. His clones gets thrown in and explodes like a grenade. Honestly, people in arena look down on him a bit too much, which is a perfect trap >:D


Here's the team I made for him: https://youtu.be/oA4oT3kjjQ4

The TEam

It's such a clutch team, but it's fun that way :P

(Position 1) Lightning Main: Lightning main increases the resistance and prevents debuffs to most of the team. It also summons a dog as a shield that is capable of blocking some blitz attempts. More importantly however, it is a round 1 and maybe round 2 control ninja to interrupt any mysteries fired off in round 1. It also generates chakra so that Gengetsu can fie off his mystery in round 1. If killed, the rest of the team can still fight well, just without as much combo. Use his position 1 wisely. It might be better to save to round 2 or acupuncture a ninja after they use their standard attack.


(Position 2) Shisui: Shisui increase the damage done overall and increases the chance of round 1 blitz in this team. His ignition is good for clearing status reflect and the dodge on top of immunity from Lightning main makes him a bit difficult to kill. His chaos mystery in round 2 is powerful, but you shouldn’t count on it since he’s position 2. However his mystery definitely is a threat, so your opponent will most likely target him instead of Gengetsu.


(Position 3) Gengetsu: Gengetsu is constantly underrated as a ninja by players around. He’s not seen around and when he is, he usually doesn’t play such a big role. Players that fight you will most likely target a ninja other than him. However with Jinpachi giving him 2 standard attacks and chances to lower his mystery cooldown, he can be the sniper of the team and take out a ninja in round 1. His double standard attack, Sniper mystery, and clone grenade deals quite a lot of damage in round 1. If you add on Jinpachi’s area attack and Shisui’s double hit, chances are that you can take out a ninja without your opponent even being aware of the threat.


(Position 4) Jinpachi: Jinpachi is a strong cornerstone to the team. He gives Gengetsu double attacks, but also clears debuffs whenever he needs to with a 0 chakra cost. Aiming at him is usually not a good idea in the beginning because he gets a ton of resistance and a fairly strong defence from his abilities. This lets him support Gengetsu quite well. The ignition that he deals is especially good when trying to blitz a team that has healers.


Let me know what you think! And if there's a better Gengetsu team you can find.






This post was last edited by okbuthow on 2019-02-04 03:23:17.
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On 2019-02-04 11:55:57Show this Author Only
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for 4 months i used him in arena for ranked battles.

the team was:


water main gengetsu x

mei jinpachi x

x x x


talents: 22112, summon: gamaken.


used to be very good when the most common meta used to be shisui + itachi anbu one (since oneshots directly shisui in round 1).


right now is not that good sadly.

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try mangetsu instead of jinpachi, 2 rounds dodge + tanky clone + double attack to whoever you chose

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On 2019-02-05 00:13:01Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2019-02-04 21:22:16
  • try mangetsu instead of jinpachi, 2 rounds dodge + tanky clone + double attack to whoever you chose

Mangetsu is an interesting choice. It would mean only one round of extra attacks for a chance for Gengetsu to lower his mystery for 1 round. The dodge is nice, but then there's no way to get rid of the debuffs caused by area attacks. We would also lose the dodge clear from jinpachi and ignition vs healers. It would probably be best for frontal assault teams.

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  • The_X On 2019-02-04 21:22:16
  • try mangetsu instead of jinpachi, 2 rounds dodge + tanky clone + double attack to whoever you chose

the problem of mangetsu is that is water, so gengetsu may not be selected by water enhancement and doesn't remove a debuff on gengetsu (even if let him dodge).

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  • Garv On 2019-02-05 04:22:37
  • the problem of mangetsu is that is water, so gengetsu may not be selected by water enhancement and doesn't remove a debuff on gengetsu (even if let him dodge).

fire main with secret jutsu buff (shisui gengetsu and mangetu all secret users)

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On 2019-02-06 17:09:19Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2019-02-06 08:11:59
  • fire main with secret jutsu buff (shisui gengetsu and mangetu all secret users)

Gengetsu, Mangetsu, Shisui AND scarlet blaze. So the 1st passive of the 4th line of sb has the same exact issue of water enhancement in that team and shisui do not boost gengetsu (that's why mei and not shisui).

Jinpachi was better than Mangetsu at the time garv talked about, not only because gives a 2nd standard attack granted every round (Mangetsu doesn't do it in round 2) but also because his mystery pop all the dodges so gengetsu is sure to hit twice the target.

Water main with shark bomb is better in general in that team because is a blitz team so she grants not only the highest boost to gengetsu but also an heavy additional and unexpected round 2/3 hit that may also let you use in round 2 both her and mei, something quite huge in arena.

But obviously as any blitz team is a all or nothing. If something doesn't go as expected you are sure to lose.

The idea basically was: round 1 gengetsu reduces cd and the combo his mystery triggers kill or make unable to do anything the enemy move 1 hero in round 1.

In round 2 shark bomb + jinpachi + eventually mei (if the clone dies or if you stole enough chakra) wiped out the rest.


P.S. Beware that with a bit of luck, if Gengetsu is in front of naruto, and you have mei barrier up, this team still works also against common six paths meta. Naruto is not able to endure the whole combo triggered by Gengetsu + two standards + mystery even if is shielded by bee + earth main passive. It will be able to only if earth main selects him with his chakra wall.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-02-06 17:17:12.
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On 2019-02-06 17:49:17Show this Author Only
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Fire main secret jutsu made gengetsu combo nearly 100% of time.

For arena i use : fire main secret jutsu and 40 chakra passiv, haku edo and minato

I use only gengetsu mystery to kill someone (~ 3.8k-5k dmg no crit) so i get reset.

Minato, haku, gengetsu mysteries everyround. Kinda fun.

I have no jinpachi, but i would use him instead of minato.

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On 2019-02-06 19:41:32Show this Author Only
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  • Thibs On 2019-02-06 17:49:17
  • Fire main secret jutsu made gengetsu combo nearly 100% of time.

    For arena i use : fire main secret jutsu and 40 chakra passiv, haku edo and minato

    I use only gengetsu mystery to kill someone (~ 3.8k-5k dmg no crit) so i get reset.

    Minato, haku, gengetsu mysteries everyround. Kinda fun.

    I have no jinpachi, but i would use him instead of minato.

Yes it does but if gengetsu is not selected by it it doesn't do it.

With mei in the place of shisui works, but still the boost granted by it goes to ninjutsu only while the boost granted by water main goes to tai too.

Try gengetsu mangetsu/jinpachi mei fire main, should work fine.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-02-06 19:43:29.
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-02-06 19:41:32
  • Yes it does but if gengetsu is not selected by it it doesn't do it.

    With mei in the place of shisui works, but still the boost granted by it goes to ninjutsu only while the boost granted by water main goes to tai too.

    Try gengetsu mangetsu/jinpachi mei fire main, should work fine.

With haku + minato, Gengetsu is always selected.

+ i'm not sure secret jutsu have ninja limits.

+ Mangetsu is bad, and have not jinpachi; sadly

Gengetsu, Haku and Minato in same line with haku mystery nearly guarentee 1 kill t1 with gengetsu mystery

Then repeat t2, with additionnal minato's mystery




This post was last edited by Thibs on 2019-02-06 19:50:55.
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On 2019-02-06 22:05:34Show this Author Only
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the problem with jinpachi is that after 2 mystery you rely on auto-attacks and despell... if the fight is a bit longer... on the other hand dodge can be OP since he have to rely on multiple mystery to trigger your dodge or auto attacks which nulify his possible initiative advantage...

look the thing is... this is not a 100% stable meta and things can be tinkered...

mangetsu is a good support in special for the 7swordsmans since some of them don't generate technique points (jinpachi, ameiuri and so on)

you can go troll team with WaM, gengetsu, mangetsu and edo zabuza or kushimaru and depending on the situation you can mystery gengetsu or zabuza/kushi

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