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On 2019-01-26 23:33:17Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2019-01-26 23:05:00
  • The same kit without leech wouldn't seem as broken. But thats because of overloaded kit. Propably taking away any single of his features would make him much more manageable. In most 1v1 scenarios currently he's always full hp as long as opponents backline is alive (and thats all leech fyi). And after that, when it comes to 1ninja vs 1 ninja he doesnt heal that much, but because of dodge, immunity, mystery every round with self chase (or every 2 rounds vs not immune dodge ninja) there arent many ninjas that can compete in such scenario. Thats why everybody is running sosp, because when it comes to that 1v1 you are fighting on even terms. You both can do the same.

The same kit without dodge or immunity or cooldown reduction or self chase or without buffremoval wouldn't seem as broken too.

Yep, completly overloaded kit, even shisui is jealous :))

Imo, leach is not the most annoying thing in his kit.

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On 2019-01-27 00:10:15Show this Author Only
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* some people seem really dumb.
Who blame that need to be nerfed, either is unable to save to get him (and i telling you from a f2p) and cry or is too dumb to make a simple blitz and screw him.
Other this, really, what you all blaming about ? Every f*ucking month you need pull out something, nerf this, nerf that ? Are you gonna do copy/paste of what write the previous time just changing the subject of the cry/nerf blame? We pass trough the brainless water cancer with mei and tenten "ey ey, i put auto and no need do other action", was everywhere, then we had to suffer the "I'm faster and win in the moment the fight start" with the blitz, after that "the look at me , i'm soooo smoooort" with water chaos. Com'on guys stop that no sense kind of post, is naruto really so strong? Ye ? So, why the bloody * hell you aren't already get him at place of coming there crying and blaming for a nerf ?




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On 2019-01-27 00:18:48Show this Author Only
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  • rum1890 On 2019-01-27 00:10:15
  • * some people seem really dumb.
    Who blame that need to be nerfed, either is unable to save to get him (and i telling you from a f2p) and cry or is too dumb to make a simple blitz and screw him.
    Other this, really, what you all blaming about ? Every f*ucking month you need pull out something, nerf this, nerf that ? Are you gonna do copy/paste of what write the previous time just changing the subject of the cry/nerf blame? We pass trough the brainless water cancer with mei and tenten "ey ey, i put auto and no need do other action", was everywhere, then we had to suffer the "I'm faster and win in the moment the fight start" with the blitz, after that "the look at me , i'm soooo smoooort" with water chaos. Com'on guys stop that no sense kind of post, is naruto really so strong? Ye ? So, why the bloody * hell you aren't already get him at place of coming there crying and blaming for a nerf ?

Btw if a simple blitz could do the job people wouldnt complain lol xD but I do agree that complaining for each time meta changes is pointless as we all know that 20k ninjas always change the game.Game is becoming a bit monothonic, not much creativity thats why a good amount of people are leaving game or are actually sad about this even if they can afford to buy him.But in the end of the day is same thing as the 5 kage madara , same thing as Konan AOG etc etc. some ninjas will always stand on the top.At least in my point of view im glad its the protagonist the best ninja to stand on the top of the game and not some kakuzu or some other nonsense ninja




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On 2019-01-27 00:59:12Show this Author Only
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never had issues against a comparable power naruto six paths. I have had them against a 10k+ higher power one that also owns initiative (so against 80k+ move 1 ones), but really, against comparable power ones naruto is not a problem (except in auto teams, there, since he interrupts, he may be a problem).




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Can anyone explain to me why talking about a character getting nerfed is so frowned upon in this game? I have played dozens of games where the company who runs the game will check on the health of the game and make nerfs or buffs accordingly(hearthstone league of legends call of duty etc etc) But when you talk about game balance in this game people treat like you are just some baby complaining. If the people running this game came out with a forum post saying "you know what rinnegan sasuke while he is good he just doesn't compare to his explosive mode counterparts. so we are gonna buff him a bit" That would just mean oasis or whoever is running this game is actually doing their job and making sure the game isnt running into the dumpster. All that being said im aware they cant or wont just go into the game and change things cause they have to follow the chinese template.

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On 2019-01-27 18:11:32Show this Author Only
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  • How are all the On 2019-01-27 12:52:12
  • Can anyone explain to me why talking about a character getting nerfed is so frowned upon in this game? I have played dozens of games where the company who runs the game will check on the health of the game and make nerfs or buffs accordingly(hearthstone league of legends call of duty etc etc) But when you talk about game balance in this game people treat like you are just some baby complaining. If the people running this game came out with a forum post saying "you know what rinnegan sasuke while he is good he just doesn't compare to his explosive mode counterparts. so we are gonna buff him a bit" That would just mean oasis or whoever is running this game is actually doing their job and making sure the game isnt running into the dumpster. All that being said im aware they cant or wont just go into the game and change things cause they have to follow the chinese template.

The answer is simple, those games you mentioned are played in the "present" (you are playing their "Original" form), in naruto online case (and many other kind of "translated from original CN game") we (here in oasis servers) are playing in the "past", while the "present" is in the CN servers.

For a nerf to occur, it has to be mentioned first in the CN community and based on their feedback the CN company would proceed with a nerf (chikamatsu of 10 puppets 10 chase to 6, and all the earth main nerfs) or releasing counters (which is what's used most of the time, edo itachi vs hiruzen/kakuzu/konan).


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On 2019-01-27 18:43:43Show this Author Only
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  • rum1890 On 2019-01-27 00:10:15
  • * some people seem really dumb.
    Who blame that need to be nerfed, either is unable to save to get him (and i telling you from a f2p) and cry or is too dumb to make a simple blitz and screw him.
    Other this, really, what you all blaming about ? Every f*ucking month you need pull out something, nerf this, nerf that ? Are you gonna do copy/paste of what write the previous time just changing the subject of the cry/nerf blame? We pass trough the brainless water cancer with mei and tenten "ey ey, i put auto and no need do other action", was everywhere, then we had to suffer the "I'm faster and win in the moment the fight start" with the blitz, after that "the look at me , i'm soooo smoooort" with water chaos. Com'on guys stop that no sense kind of post, is naruto really so strong? Ye ? So, why the bloody * hell you aren't already get him at place of coming there crying and blaming for a nerf ?

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On 2019-01-27 18:59:21Show this Author Only
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Nerf 1 star Choji!

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On 2019-01-27 20:17:15Show this Author Only
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  • How are all the On 2019-01-27 12:52:12
  • Can anyone explain to me why talking about a character getting nerfed is so frowned upon in this game? I have played dozens of games where the company who runs the game will check on the health of the game and make nerfs or buffs accordingly(hearthstone league of legends call of duty etc etc) But when you talk about game balance in this game people treat like you are just some baby complaining. If the people running this game came out with a forum post saying "you know what rinnegan sasuke while he is good he just doesn't compare to his explosive mode counterparts. so we are gonna buff him a bit" That would just mean oasis or whoever is running this game is actually doing their job and making sure the game isnt running into the dumpster. All that being said im aware they cant or wont just go into the game and change things cause they have to follow the chinese template.

Are you sure? Also is frowned upon, cuz when people struggle, they dont wanna find a solution, they want the easy way out, so how bout a little insight reflection, on which and how many ninjas you have, and play your hand accordingly, game doesnt have to adjust to a vocal minority(even thou sometimes aint true to this game...whale spenders LUL ) you gotta adjust the team, you gotta come up with a counter, or if you dont have the counter, then *s to be you, but move on and play the game, and this is true to alot of games, we gamers are s*fed and we push comes to shove, we cry and moan, but in reality we wanna be babysitted, we want to be cared, so let's just say for a joke, that naruto 6p and actually op, then what? are you going to nerf him, listening to the vocal minority? while angering the majority of people who got him? imo the only annoying part of his kit it's his leech, nothing else, i've been beaten by it, and beaten naruto 6p. So harsh reality is, he's not going to be nerfed, in fact, he will ceased to be meta(which is a term i laugh about) once new ninjas come around or improved versions of the old ninjas come out, or maybe even, new features.

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On 2019-01-27 20:33:05Show this Author Only
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  • CHROLLOLUCILFER On 2019-01-27 00:18:48
  • Btw if a simple blitz could do the job people wouldnt complain lol xD but I do agree that complaining for each time meta changes is pointless as we all know that 20k ninjas always change the game.Game is becoming a bit monothonic, not much creativity thats why a good amount of people are leaving game or are actually sad about this even if they can afford to buy him.But in the end of the day is same thing as the 5 kage madara , same thing as Konan AOG etc etc. some ninjas will always stand on the top.At least in my point of view im glad its the protagonist the best ninja to stand on the top of the game and not some kakuzu or some other nonsense ninja

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Especially this: "At least in my point of view im glad its the protagonist the best ninja to stand on the top of the game and not some kakuzu or some other nonsense ninja"


And to all calling for nerf: would be nice to make hi kit a little bit thinner, I agree, but this Naruto is not unbeatable- get yourself team that can take some hit, delete back line of opp and then Naruto won't be such an issue.

Make some angry mommy team- Kushina is a way to give some beatin' to that kiddo.

Or get Naruto on your own- it takes some strong will sometimes to save those 20k cp but then you will own the OP ninja too! Yay!

You c*so wait for another 20k cp meta changer so then you can complain over new issue~~


I don't have him YET but on my way there, 'cause why not~~



And shame on you, Collin, for starting a war on forum

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On 2019-01-27 23:45:09Show this Author Only
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  • Voidium On 2019-01-27 18:11:32
  • The answer is simple, those games you mentioned are played in the "present" (you are playing their "Original" form), in naruto online case (and many other kind of "translated from original CN game") we (here in oasis servers) are playing in the "past", while the "present" is in the CN servers.

    For a nerf to occur, it has to be mentioned first in the CN community and based on their feedback the CN company would proceed with a nerf (chikamatsu of 10 puppets 10 chase to 6, and all the earth main nerfs) or releasing counters (which is what's used most of the time, edo itachi vs hiruzen/kakuzu/konan).


read the last line of my comment i said i know this

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On 2019-01-28 00:09:02Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2019-01-27 20:17:15
  • Are you sure? Also is frowned upon, cuz when people struggle, they dont wanna find a solution, they want the easy way out, so how bout a little insight reflection, on which and how many ninjas you have, and play your hand accordingly, game doesnt have to adjust to a vocal minority(even thou sometimes aint true to this game...whale spenders LUL ) you gotta adjust the team, you gotta come up with a counter, or if you dont have the counter, then *s to be you, but move on and play the game, and this is true to alot of games, we gamers are s*fed and we push comes to shove, we cry and moan, but in reality we wanna be babysitted, we want to be cared, so let's just say for a joke, that naruto 6p and actually op, then what? are you going to nerf him, listening to the vocal minority? while angering the majority of people who got him? imo the only annoying part of his kit it's his leech, nothing else, i've been beaten by it, and beaten naruto 6p. So harsh reality is, he's not going to be nerfed, in fact, he will ceased to be meta(which is a term i laugh about) once new ninjas come around or improved versions of the old ninjas come out, or maybe even, new features.

You missed the whole point of what i said. I dont know what other games you play but lets just say call of duty for example. In some call of duty the m16 is an overpowered gun and its usage rate is through the roof. So activision or whoever comes in and adjusts the gun to balance it out. I know characters in this game dont get nerfed for the most part. What i am saying is why is the discussion treated like how you just treated my last comment by calling people babies. In other games there are some forums that are used for discussions of character balance. but when you complain about a card in hearthstone for example you can have a forum discussion about why wild growth on turn 2 is horrendously overpowered. and blizzard will eventually look into it and nerf accordingly. you cant even discuss things about this game cause people come through and call you a child a baby a complainer a moaner. I would say like 90% of us who play this game think six paths naruto is overpowered in some way whether you think its the mystery every round that interrupts or the fact that he chases his own mystery into immobile or the leech whatever you think. But if you post it in a thread saying you think he is op all you get is shut up you baby you just want the answers given to you.


And ill just say it one more time cause you had to give me the harsh reality(lol) "I KNOW HE ISNT GETTING NERFED" im talking about the discussion of it.




This post was last edited by How are all the on 2019-01-28 00:10:59.
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On 2019-01-28 00:16:22Show this Author Only
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  • How are all the On 2019-01-28 00:09:02
  • You missed the whole point of what i said. I dont know what other games you play but lets just say call of duty for example. In some call of duty the m16 is an overpowered gun and its usage rate is through the roof. So activision or whoever comes in and adjusts the gun to balance it out. I know characters in this game dont get nerfed for the most part. What i am saying is why is the discussion treated like how you just treated my last comment by calling people babies. In other games there are some forums that are used for discussions of character balance. but when you complain about a card in hearthstone for example you can have a forum discussion about why wild growth on turn 2 is horrendously overpowered. and blizzard will eventually look into it and nerf accordingly. you cant even discuss things about this game cause people come through and call you a child a baby a complainer a moaner. I would say like 90% of us who play this game think six paths naruto is overpowered in some way whether you think its the mystery every round that interrupts or the fact that he chases his own mystery into immobile or the leech whatever you think. But if you post it in a thread saying you think he is op all you get is shut up you baby you just want the answers given to you.


    And ill just say it one more time cause you had to give me the harsh reality(lol) "I KNOW HE ISNT GETTING NERFED" im talking about the discussion of it.

I know he isn't getting nerfed, yet i want to discuss about his nerf...

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻





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On 2019-01-28 00:25:48Show this Author Only
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  • Voidium On 2019-01-28 00:16:22
  • I know he isn't getting nerfed, yet i want to discuss about his nerf...

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


sums up thank you.

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On 2019-01-28 01:14:10Show this Author Only
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  • How are all the On 2019-01-28 00:09:02
  • You missed the whole point of what i said. I dont know what other games you play but lets just say call of duty for example. In some call of duty the m16 is an overpowered gun and its usage rate is through the roof. So activision or whoever comes in and adjusts the gun to balance it out. I know characters in this game dont get nerfed for the most part. What i am saying is why is the discussion treated like how you just treated my last comment by calling people babies. In other games there are some forums that are used for discussions of character balance. but when you complain about a card in hearthstone for example you can have a forum discussion about why wild growth on turn 2 is horrendously overpowered. and blizzard will eventually look into it and nerf accordingly. you cant even discuss things about this game cause people come through and call you a child a baby a complainer a moaner. I would say like 90% of us who play this game think six paths naruto is overpowered in some way whether you think its the mystery every round that interrupts or the fact that he chases his own mystery into immobile or the leech whatever you think. But if you post it in a thread saying you think he is op all you get is shut up you baby you just want the answers given to you.


    And ill just say it one more time cause you had to give me the harsh reality(lol) "I KNOW HE ISNT GETTING NERFED" im talking about the discussion of it.

The difference of bringing up a suggestion of a buff/nerf in characters for this game (and any other asian games) and the Heartstone example you provided is just like what Voidium said, the original server tends to dictate what other servers get. I understand why naruto online isn't following this format especially with ninjas & treasures as it would be hard to keep up if giving all at once for every new server open per region. Bringing up a discussion about Heartstone and seeing the results is going to be more easier to see happen than games like Naruto Online. You can bring up a discussion of buffs/nerfs all you want but the end goal of most people would be the change to happen but that's unlikely if the original server gets changes first.


A little of topic but this is just might be a opinion but since how good kakuzu's skillbooks/trials are in China and any new ninjas that were added in China did not change the meta that much, what I assume for our server is to allow those ninjas to shine before kakuzu since whales would buy both. Of course I won't know how many of the whales in China brought ninjas like 6p naruto if they are running kakuzu teams.




This post was last edited by Danzō on 2019-01-28 01:19:38.
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On 2019-01-28 02:11:57Show this Author Only
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  • Voidium On 2019-01-28 00:16:22
  • I know he isn't getting nerfed, yet i want to discuss about his nerf...

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


Why is that a problem exactly. What is the purpose of this forum? to post your arena victories against ten tails madara teams? this section is literally called general discussion let me know what i can and cant talk about so im not out of line next time




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On 2019-01-28 02:12:51Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2019-01-28 01:14:10
  • The difference of bringing up a suggestion of a buff/nerf in characters for this game (and any other asian games) and the Heartstone example you provided is just like what Voidium said, the original server tends to dictate what other servers get. I understand why naruto online isn't following this format especially with ninjas & treasures as it would be hard to keep up if giving all at once for every new server open per region. Bringing up a discussion about Heartstone and seeing the results is going to be more easier to see happen than games like Naruto Online. You can bring up a discussion of buffs/nerfs all you want but the end goal of most people would be the change to happen but that's unlikely if the original server gets changes first.


    A little of topic but this is just might be a opinion but since how good kakuzu's skillbooks/trials are in China and any new ninjas that were added in China did not change the meta that much, what I assume for our server is to allow those ninjas to shine before kakuzu since whales would buy both. Of course I won't know how many of the whales in China brought ninjas like 6p naruto if they are running kakuzu teams.

yea yea of course i understand all that. i dont expect any changes to happen to the characters cause people talk about i been here too long. its just so silly seeing forum threads where people call each other babies and complainers. even though we all agree the character is broken

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On 2019-01-28 02:38:39Show this Author Only
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  • How are all the On 2019-01-28 02:12:51
  • yea yea of course i understand all that. i dont expect any changes to happen to the characters cause people talk about i been here too long. its just so silly seeing forum threads where people call each other babies and complainers. even though we all agree the character is broken

Well there has been a pattern that if players that can't figure out a counter to a team then they will demand a nerf. Ex: Voidum pointed this out with just searching "nerf". It comes to a point that some players will be viewed as such because they can't express it without acting like a "baby". For your heartstone example with the druid nerf, I've see some hunter players that are clearly whining how OP druid was and some players that can clearly explain why druid needs a nerf.




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eh nvm.




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