Unless your every position has high substats even with Edo Itachi you can get oneshot with 20k+ crit/injury Hiruzen and other ninjas. Defensive lineups need every position to resemble "stacked move 1", I used Chiriku+EM+Hokage Minato today in ST versus a player with 16k substats Angel Konan (my move 1 is 20k substats). Even with all the defensive ninjas it still came out to Konan vs Minato (my p2-p4 9-7k) in the end, although they survived 1st Konan mystery.

thank you for your answers.

i wanted to hear the opinions of other players before replying.

@Stevecarry

it can do it.

if you are, lets say, 60-45-45-45k and your enemy is 100k-30k-30k-30k (that's quite common for ultraoverstackers), you have the same total power, but the latter will oneshot you with ease.

@Chrollolucifer: you are perfectly right, in the end, the fights still end in round 8+ when two overstackers meet each other. what changes is that is just a battle between two ninjas. In swb i use AGK (i chose her over hiruzen because she generally works better against comparable powers and still nukes the low powers as fast as him) but i see i'm literally compelled in using her + kisame samehada + hokage minato because i can kill all those edo hiruzen teams even up to 70k stronger (i don't understand why they continue to select me when they know is 80%+ sure defeat for them, but seems they like to get their streak cut off by me) and is still fast enough to let me be in the worst case 4th-5th and most of the times 2nd or 3rd. I'm level 104, i can't hope in anything better than this since i'm just a low casher.

about the battlegroud i literally don't understand what's the point of people around my power or higher, overall if they recharge, in going in the only event where f2p can hope to cap their sun scrolls. i just consider their presence there the meaniest thing possible there is in this game.

btw, thanks for your reply :-)

@Kuebiko: what's stopping me from playing defensively is the fact they don't bring back +4 elemental resistances, they continue to show only features that grant more atk/nin than def/res, the cost of increasing defense, resistance and damage reduction is too high in comparison with the cost required to increase atk and nin, etc...

you can't go for any defensive lineup at the point of the game I am (over 200k power).

they simply do not work.

@Bosshog: thanks for your reply. I'm in ICEx server, i help him sometimes in doing those tests, so i know them very well. But what i meant by talking about defensive lineups missing is that if i spend the same 50k coupons in defensive stats instead of damaging stats, i don't get at all the some outcome, overall if i miss initiative. to get the same outcome as spending 50k in attacking stats i would need to spend 200k in defensive stats. That's the problem.

@Thunderstuck17: I am in top50. That said, if what you say was true, you would see half people going for defensive lineups and half people going for attacking lineups. why this doesn't happen? because is not possible at all to run defensive lineups right now if you are over 150k power.