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On 2018-12-13 00:56:06Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Dear players

I am about to get my super rare at GNW treasure , after that i will start saving seals for Susano itachi , since am already 40 frags in , for the ppl who already got him , i would like to know how much i need roughly if i want to get him.

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On 2018-12-13 02:41:12Show this Author Only
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By my calculations, you will need roughly about 1,520 seal scrolls of pulling in treasures that give itachi frags. This is based on a loose rate of math that you will get 1 itachi frag for every 38 seal scrolls. I arrived at this conclusion based on personal record keeping. This also takes into account for the variance of getting either 1 or 2 frags per 60 pulls.


So get to saving, chop chop! Good luck!

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On 2018-12-13 04:11:41Show this Author Only
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Overall to get all of his frags(from 0 to 80), i heard, it's 2200 seals scrolls, im at 61/80 atm, so yeah.




This post was last edited by UchihaShay on 2018-12-13 04:12:03.
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On 2018-12-13 04:46:28Show this Author Only
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  • Shyuko On 2018-12-13 02:41:12
  • By my calculations, you will need roughly about 1,520 seal scrolls of pulling in treasures that give itachi frags. This is based on a loose rate of math that you will get 1 itachi frag for every 38 seal scrolls. I arrived at this conclusion based on personal record keeping. This also takes into account for the variance of getting either 1 or 2 frags per 60 pulls.


    So get to saving, chop chop! Good luck!

1540 then , it's long way to go xD , Thnak you )

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On 2018-12-13 04:54:22Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2018-12-13 04:11:41
  • Overall to get all of his frags(from 0 to 80), i heard, it's 2200 seals scrolls, im at 61/80 atm, so yeah.

based on what u say , i need 1100 ? same as what super rare requires in gnw
Thank you and good luck for what is left for you :))

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On 2018-12-13 06:06:48Show this Author Only
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You get 1-2 frags every 60 pulls on average. Thats anywhere between 2400-4800 pulls in total. Assuming you get 1 and 2 frags at the same rate, 3200 is the best approximation. If you need 40 frags, then half of it, which is 1600. There are 5 treasures (kage, lol, edo, jin1, jin2) that offer his frags. For 60 free pulls it takes 120 days, if you divide it by the number of treasures it makes you pull itachi (1-2frag) every 24days on average. So its possible for you to get itachi entirely for free in 960 days ;)


If there's any legit advice I could give you, if you plan to keep playing this game I'd suggest going for edo hashi instead. This way you will obtain some of free Itachi frags. I assume you are about 1k seals in gnw, so you will need more or less 2k seals (which will take you lets say 1.5 year to obtain). By that time, 550days will pass which equals roughly to 22 chances of pulling ssn itachi frags. Lets asume you get 11x 2frags and 11x 1frag, which leads you to 33 out of 40 frags. Now you can save another 300 seals and fini*achi. It's up to you to decide if you want to spend 1600 now (propably 1000 or less because it will take you about a year to gather seals anyway) or add another 1000seals to it and have both instead.


Going for itachi now is a trap and worst decision you can make. trust me, I did the same mistake.

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On 2018-12-13 08:27:55Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-12-13 06:06:48
  • You get 1-2 frags every 60 pulls on average. Thats anywhere between 2400-4800 pulls in total. Assuming you get 1 and 2 frags at the same rate, 3200 is the best approximation. If you need 40 frags, then half of it, which is 1600. There are 5 treasures (kage, lol, edo, jin1, jin2) that offer his frags. For 60 free pulls it takes 120 days, if you divide it by the number of treasures it makes you pull itachi (1-2frag) every 24days on average. So its possible for you to get itachi entirely for free in 960 days ;)


    If there's any legit advice I could give you, if you plan to keep playing this game I'd suggest going for edo hashi instead. This way you will obtain some of free Itachi frags. I assume you are about 1k seals in gnw, so you will need more or less 2k seals (which will take you lets say 1.5 year to obtain). By that time, 550days will pass which equals roughly to 22 chances of pulling ssn itachi frags. Lets asume you get 11x 2frags and 11x 1frag, which leads you to 33 out of 40 frags. Now you can save another 300 seals and fini*achi. It's up to you to decide if you want to spend 1600 now (propably 1000 or less because it will take you about a year to gather seals anyway) or add another 1000seals to it and have both instead.


    Going for itachi now is a trap and worst decision you can make. trust me, I did the same mistake.

I see your point , but going for hashi needs atleast 2k seals , which is unlikely to happen within 2k ( probably even more ) , beside edo hashis frags are more often to appear in events nowadays , on the other hand , itachi's frags are barely even there , also as u mentioned , there is five treasures that provide his frags so i will be geting some from the other 4 treasures .

But your right about some points , didnt get why u thought it's a mistake tho ))





This post was last edited by KURAMA11 on 2018-12-13 08:30:11.
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On 2018-12-14 06:24:34Show this Author Only
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  • KURAMA11 On 2018-12-13 08:27:55
  • I see your point , but going for hashi needs atleast 2k seals , which is unlikely to happen within 2k ( probably even more ) , beside edo hashis frags are more often to appear in events nowadays , on the other hand , itachi's frags are barely even there , also as u mentioned , there is five treasures that provide his frags so i will be geting some from the other 4 treasures .

    But your right about some points , didnt get why u thought it's a mistake tho ))


Because Itachi's spectre of use in todays meta is very limited, even more if you arent top dog of your server. ISure, if you are top power you can still make itachi buff blitz team work. However if you are in top10 with other being really close, itachi cant really shine vs those people. Also everybody nowadays either dodges or is immune, so you cant have chaos on demand. While you might block some annoying spells like madara 5k or samehada barrier, you cant interrupt move1 minato or naruto, which are the most common teams you face today. If you are slower then it doesnt matter, but if you are faster you are basically letting opponent get heavy nuke during r2 for free. If you look at ninja kit, itachi's best side is strong column attack (which hits basically 1 ninja in 1v1), 2x2round chaos and super armor with immunity. Chases are generic and dont offer much.


Hashirama on the other hand doesnt care for dodges if used from move1, has amazing 12target mystery, that can destroy barriers (although they arent as popular as they used to be). If used as a support role he offers full clear + heal to 2 most popular ninjas (naruto/minato) as well as wind/water main with senjutsu talent. Having 2 ninjas that can full clear at least 3 out of 4 ninjas in your team is really hard to deal with. On top of that he offers 2 godlike chases- immobile+full chakra drain and 2man immobile on multihit chase (which, again, our most popular ninjas achieve with ease). His only generic and not-awesome ability is his standard attack, which is single target and dmg isnt anything special.


While itachi is very flexible in 1v1 and can be used as a backline control unit, hashirama in 1v1 fits current meta better. You could potentially argue they are equally useful, but once you start using senjutsu team, hashirama is simply better in every aspect except r1 control on picked target. When it comes to 2v2 or 3v3, cross field damage and heal/clear kicks in and hashi is simply WAY better. Current meta simply favours hashi too much for itachi to even think about being competitive, and while im jonin team user myself, thats why i consider keeping going for itachi when gnw was released a big mistake. People who went gnw instead at that time are about 300 seals away from getting hashi and pretty much 5-10itachi frags away. While I have itachi, im barely 40 frags in towards hashi. And im hardly ever using Itachi anyway. Not saying hes bad, just that his time to shine is over.




This post was last edited by Zathroth on 2018-12-14 06:26:11.
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On 2018-12-18 06:50:09Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-12-14 06:24:34
  • Because Itachi's spectre of use in todays meta is very limited, even more if you arent top dog of your server. ISure, if you are top power you can still make itachi buff blitz team work. However if you are in top10 with other being really close, itachi cant really shine vs those people. Also everybody nowadays either dodges or is immune, so you cant have chaos on demand. While you might block some annoying spells like madara 5k or samehada barrier, you cant interrupt move1 minato or naruto, which are the most common teams you face today. If you are slower then it doesnt matter, but if you are faster you are basically letting opponent get heavy nuke during r2 for free. If you look at ninja kit, itachi's best side is strong column attack (which hits basically 1 ninja in 1v1), 2x2round chaos and super armor with immunity. Chases are generic and dont offer much.


    Hashirama on the other hand doesnt care for dodges if used from move1, has amazing 12target mystery, that can destroy barriers (although they arent as popular as they used to be). If used as a support role he offers full clear + heal to 2 most popular ninjas (naruto/minato) as well as wind/water main with senjutsu talent. Having 2 ninjas that can full clear at least 3 out of 4 ninjas in your team is really hard to deal with. On top of that he offers 2 godlike chases- immobile+full chakra drain and 2man immobile on multihit chase (which, again, our most popular ninjas achieve with ease). His only generic and not-awesome ability is his standard attack, which is single target and dmg isnt anything special.


    While itachi is very flexible in 1v1 and can be used as a backline control unit, hashirama in 1v1 fits current meta better. You could potentially argue they are equally useful, but once you start using senjutsu team, hashirama is simply better in every aspect except r1 control on picked target. When it comes to 2v2 or 3v3, cross field damage and heal/clear kicks in and hashi is simply WAY better. Current meta simply favours hashi too much for itachi to even think about being competitive, and while im jonin team user myself, thats why i consider keeping going for itachi when gnw was released a big mistake. People who went gnw instead at that time are about 300 seals away from getting hashi and pretty much 5-10itachi frags away. While I have itachi, im barely 40 frags in towards hashi. And im hardly ever using Itachi anyway. Not saying hes bad, just that his time to shine is over.

I see your point now , better wait 2x the period of time and get them both then wait half of that and get only one ( who is not good for the certain and probably the upcoming metas ) .

Thank you so much for your opinion , i will consider it :))

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On 2018-12-18 08:18:31Show this Author Only
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if you ask me, get itachi frags from whatever treasure youre pulling in, then pull in other treasures in case theyre less than 60 seals away from the next itachi frag, that way you know you got an itachi frag(s) from whatever treasure and can pull from whatever treasure you want afterwards to finish up

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On 2018-12-18 09:13:41Show this Author Only
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  • Sky. On 2018-12-18 08:18:31
  • if you ask me, get itachi frags from whatever treasure youre pulling in, then pull in other treasures in case theyre less than 60 seals away from the next itachi frag, that way you know you got an itachi frag(s) from whatever treasure and can pull from whatever treasure you want afterwards to finish up

That is actually a good idea , ad i think it will save up lots of seals as well , thank you :))

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On 2018-12-18 20:32:16Show this Author Only
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDYZ2BudOUQ

my pull vid so you can have an idea of what you are getting into

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On 2018-12-18 22:06:21Show this Author Only
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don't save too much seals to us them together the drop rate will decreases after a certain pulls. the best thing to do is use 300 every recruitment feedback to get 66 free permanent seals and higher amount of his frags. according to my personal pulls in GNW treasure I got 11 Edo hashi frags in 300 pulls but 15 in 600 pulls

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On 2018-12-18 22:39:55Show this Author Only
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There is something weird about ur pulls , u get 2 frags then 20 pulls after u get another 2 frags , thought they only give u 2 frags each 50-60 pulls

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On 2018-12-18 22:42:37Show this Author Only
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  • sahiku On 2018-12-18 22:06:21
  • don't save too much seals to us them together the drop rate will decreases after a certain pulls. the best thing to do is use 300 every recruitment feedback to get 66 free permanent seals and higher amount of his frags. according to my personal pulls in GNW treasure I got 11 Edo hashi frags in 300 pulls but 15 in 600 pulls

I see ,it will be considered .
Thank you

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On 2018-12-18 22:51:49Show this Author Only
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  • KURAMA11 On 2018-12-18 22:39:55
  • There is something weird about ur pulls , u get 2 frags then 20 pulls after u get another 2 frags , thought they only give u 2 frags each 50-60 pulls

are you saying am lucky ?

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On 2018-12-19 09:02:09Show this Author Only
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  • S440-Genesis On 2018-12-18 22:51:49
  • are you saying am lucky ?

Dunno tbh , wi* will be same for everyone :P




This post was last edited by KURAMA11 on 2018-12-19 18:38:52.
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On 2018-12-19 14:36:41Show this Author Only
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  • KURAMA11 On 2018-12-19 09:02:09
  • Dunno tbh , wi* will be same for everyone :P

well it happened to me once !!

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On 2018-12-20 05:07:00Show this Author Only
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  • KURAMA11 On 2018-12-18 22:39:55
  • There is something weird about ur pulls , u get 2 frags then 20 pulls after u get another 2 frags , thought they only give u 2 frags each 50-60 pulls

you get 1-2 frags every 60 pulls.

you can actually get 2 fragments, lets say, at the 5th draw by 10 you do and then 2 again at your 7th (after the 6th resets), but if you do it then until the 13th draw you won't get them again for sure.

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On 2018-12-20 07:18:02Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-12-20 05:07:00
  • you get 1-2 frags every 60 pulls.

    you can actually get 2 fragments, lets say, at the 5th draw by 10 you do and then 2 again at your 7th (after the 6th resets), but if you do it then until the 13th draw you won't get them again for sure.

Ahh , so u get around 2 every 60 pulls hen u get them again as soon as the 60 pulls reset , thought the counter start counting 60 pulls after u get them


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