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On 2018-10-16 13:07:49Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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It is not a secret to anyone that the Bond skill of Orochimaru is much weaker than other bond skills, such as Minato Jonin, Edo Tobirama or Itachi anbu bond skill. GNW Hinata's skill is pretty good too, but It's not used obviously because there is no good teams with both GNW Hinata and KCM Naruto and using GNW Hinata without KCM Naruto when you have KCM Naruto is pretty unwise.

Back toOrochimaru Bond skill. In my opinion it's pretty good and interesting idea, but still not worth spending so much resources on it and put Orochimaru into a team instead of some good ninja.

Let's say that Bond skill is GOOD. But Orochimaru himself isn't a strong ninja. Yes, he is funny, he can do something as a full Skill Broken Sannin version at Position 1, but that's it. If Orochimaru himself would be better ninja, then he + his bond skill would worth it to put him into some top tier teams or at least medium tier teams. But for now he is a waste of slot for a good ninja in a team.

I like Orochimaru as a character. I also like an idea of his Bond skill, history of this bond skill and etc. I would like to see him more in a gaming process, to make a strong team with him and his Bond skill.

So my suggestion is not to buff Orochimaru himself, but to buff a little bit his Bond skill to make it more attractive for players. For example, to increase a duration of a barrier for 5 round / make it permanent. Or to increase % of given resistance / defence. Or to add another buff / additional effects.

I think that a lot of players like an idea of Bond skills, but not that much players have a necessary ninjas to make a bond skill. Jonin Minato, Shisui, Edo Hashi, KCM Naruto - more or less but all these ninjas are rare and not so many players have them. But everyone have Orochimaru and Sound FIve ninjas.

Everyone will win from this. Players will get a new opportunity - to spend some time and resources and get interesting and strong ninja with a new unique skill. Game will get a little bit more variety of gameplay because maybe some new meta teams will be created. Developers will get some more recharges from a players who will decide not to wait for free resources and would like to purchase it from shops.
Our moderators already said that they are an independent team so I don't see a problem for them to make something different from China ^_^

Please discuss what do you think about it. I'm very interested in your suggestions for improving Orochimaru's Bond skill.
Hope devs will note that suggestion.

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On 2018-10-16 13:26:54Show this Author Only
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It will require too much time and resources for it to make happen and I think our team would likely not do that. It hurts me to say but they will * to the original, nothing new. Independent team is just a name.

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On 2018-10-16 20:06:04Show this Author Only
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Orochimaru works fine with agk actually if has the bond skill and is full sb. (has the perfect chase for her and is boosted by her + kills with mystery any ninja that she left alive and if the barrier is up her and the other characters you use would be actually way way harder to kill). It fully counters edo hiruzen teams for example if you own overall initiative (since hiruzen with no barrier buff would actually hit low with standard and mystery on somebody with a 60% boost to both def and res)




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-10-16 20:15:09.
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On 2018-10-16 20:53:43Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-16 20:06:04
  • Orochimaru works fine with agk actually if has the bond skill and is full sb. (has the perfect chase for her and is boosted by her + kills with mystery any ninja that she left alive and if the barrier is up her and the other characters you use would be actually way way harder to kill). It fully counters edo hiruzen teams for example if you own overall initiative (since hiruzen with no barrier buff would actually hit low with standard and mystery on somebody with a 60% boost to both def and res)

That's all is cool of course and maybe works, but I still don't see any single Orochimaru in a top tier teams. Even AGK, who, as you said, works fine with him, will better take Sai / Sasuke suit or someone else for support.

We can think a lot of time about the teams where he would work well. But the fact is very simple - if he would be good and if he would had no alternatives - people would use him.
But they don't.

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On 2018-10-16 21:07:57Show this Author Only
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I've been here a year & looked into the game much further- there never has & never will be changes made to the core experience because they're unable to do it, that's what it seems to boil down to- they get their "Package" and are able to take what they want from it & implement them but they can't add or drastically change what's inside the package.






This post was last edited by Isoya on 2018-10-16 21:08:53.
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On 2018-10-29 04:15:01Show this Author Only
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I am Also thinking about using Orochimaru and Gaara in Ranked battle, Orochimaru Barrier increase Defence and Resistance and Gaara gives Sheild base on Gaara's Resistance.

So I think its very helpful specially in ranked battle may somewhere other

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On 2018-10-29 05:47:10Show this Author Only
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  • Haru8959 On 2018-10-16 20:53:43
  • That's all is cool of course and maybe works, but I still don't see any single Orochimaru in a top tier teams. Even AGK, who, as you said, works fine with him, will better take Sai / Sasuke suit or someone else for support.

    We can think a lot of time about the teams where he would work well. But the fact is very simple - if he would be good and if he would had no alternatives - people would use him.
    But they don't.

in top tier teams none uses even jonin minato bond skill, actually... (if we use a minato is hokage because hokage minato passive boost to resistance is simply too good to counter the common metas with edo hiruzen, agk or itachi susano'o).

the reason why we don't use orochimaru bond skill is simply one: too many way to counter it (kisame samehada, madara, roshi, gaara, a faster overall initiative shisui/darui etc..) for a cost of 25 levels of assists on ninjas that have low % with other commonly used ninjas (that is also the reason why none uses edo roshi).

but in general a 60% boost to res and def that STACKS with hokage minato buff is something quite huge in ranked/gnw/bonds.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-10-29 05:51:43.
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On 2018-10-29 22:58:32Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-10-29 05:47:10
  • in top tier teams none uses even jonin minato bond skill, actually... (if we use a minato is hokage because hokage minato passive boost to resistance is simply too good to counter the common metas with edo hiruzen, agk or itachi susano'o).

    the reason why we don't use orochimaru bond skill is simply one: too many way to counter it (kisame samehada, madara, roshi, gaara, a faster overall initiative shisui/darui etc..) for a cost of 25 levels of assists on ninjas that have low % with other commonly used ninjas (that is also the reason why none uses edo roshi).

    but in general a 60% boost to res and def that STACKS with hokage minato buff is something quite huge in ranked/gnw/bonds.

I see more Bond Minato than Hokage Minato....ever since I got Bond Minato, my Hokage Minato been on the bench, because Bond Minato is just that good.

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On 2018-10-30 04:48:40Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-10-29 22:58:32
  • I see more Bond Minato than Hokage Minato....ever since I got Bond Minato, my Hokage Minato been on the bench, because Bond Minato is just that good.

I was talking about top tier teams.

In the 100-160k range of power Jonin minato with bond skill is quite common, but i wasn't talking about that range, i was talking about the 170k+ tier.

I never faced once in SWB, Matsuri or Decisive bonds a person with comparable or higher power than me (185k) that actually uses him, but i saw a ton of hokage because hokage is simply the best filler possible in AGK, kisame samehada, wind main meta. It's useless to bring a jonin minato if the enemy edo hiruzen or agk mystery in round 1 flat out nuke him.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-10-30 04:50:26.
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On 2018-10-30 07:36:26Show this Author Only
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^ I agree with this.

Bond Minato is too risky to play in high power.

Unless there are like massive power gap.

I had my bond Minato complete a week when it's available. I could count how many times I actually used him.

I was like nahhhh back to my beloved Konan.

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