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Ok, so I have a little question after I've done some maths with the new 20cps-per-foodsack price:


In here https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-35880-1.html Daiske said, quote-on-quote:


"2.

Currently,

price of Sakura's Foodsacks is updated and correct.

Its normal price

should be 20 coupons/ingots and not 10 coupons/ingots"

Well riddle me this @Daiske:

Let's just IGNORE FOR A SECOND the fact, that Sakura Foodsacks have always been priced for 10cps, never for 20cps and let's say that the price of 20cps is indeed correct.

In this case if someone would want to go for Adv Refines from this event, right? Ok...

To back up what I'm saying, here's my calculations:

Yesterday I bought 10 sacks to test the droprate and I've gotten 30 points from it and this goes in line with what everyone say about the pricing, droprate etc. so it's an average number of points I should get.

Adv Refines are priced 6pts per rune which allows me to buy 5 runes with 10 foodsacks, making each ADV REFINE RUNE price tag of ~20cps.

Anyone will agree this makes sense when the regular shop price is 38cps per rune - good deal, right? Ok.

Sooooo....

If you change the price of foodsacks to 20cps and state that this is correct, then here's where goes my confusion:

With this price I would need to pay 200cps to get 10 foodsacks, which would give me ana average of 30pts, so 5 Adv Refine Runes for 200cps, 200/5=40

Yes, this would put on the price tag of ~40cps per Adv Refine Rune in the Sakura event, which makes it 2cps MORE THAN IN A REGULAR SHOP!!!

Now tell me - do you still claim that this is correct?

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On 2018-10-05 15:03:02Show this Author Only
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this is so true.

i despise some players who have bad black heart , who dont want other players to get cheapest or cheaper price of ninjas for many reasons. Thanks to them, The best event sakurast event got nerfed now just like great plates. If only they can shut their mouth about sakuras events get buff on it. I dont care about that naruto birthday event, but i do care about sakuras events since the cheapest way to get adv refine runes is gone now. RIP.

Oasis shouldnt get provoked easily by other players who have that black heart. If this is continue, we wont ever get event that sell items with cheap price.

way to go black heart squad, way to go provocateurs

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On 2018-10-05 15:17:46Show this Author Only
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It's funny because if 20 was the real price and 10 was a bug, then why didnt they fix it the previous event when it was 10 again? Because it's not a bug and it was intended to be 10 until now.

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On 2018-10-05 15:42:20Show this Author Only
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Since when the event first appeared in 2.0 the price have been 20 coupons per sack and is the reason why everybody has always thought this event was extremely horrible (exactly because everything there was too expensive) and only meant to be a heavy whale event for those that go for xserver top rewards.

I don't know if last month the sacks costed 10 coupon (didn't bother to check because there was nothing there i needed), but, if is so, then was indeed an unintended change brought by 5.0 because for the previous 14/15 months they always costed 20 coupons.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-10-05 15:43:19.
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On 2018-10-05 16:02:53Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-05 15:42:20
  • Since when the event first appeared in 2.0 the price have been 20 coupons per sack and is the reason why everybody has always thought this event was extremely horrible (exactly because everything there was too expensive) and only meant to be a heavy whale event for those that go for xserver top rewards.

    I don't know if last month the sacks costed 10 coupon (didn't bother to check because there was nothing there i needed), but, if is so, then was indeed an unintended change brought by 5.0 because for the previous 14/15 months they always costed 20 coupons.

do ur research bro LMAO. It was 10 coupons before

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On 2018-10-05 16:04:49Show this Author Only
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  • warterman On 2018-10-05 16:02:53
  • do ur research bro LMAO. It was 10 coupons before

It was not. The one with Killer Bee was indeed 10 coupons but the event originally started at 20 coupons/foodsack.

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On 2018-10-05 16:09:47Show this Author Only
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That's true it's 20cp before version 5.0. However that's not the real point.

Some are misinformed, some take it 10cp is the now price since 5.0.

No one really cares if Oasis end up labeled a liar by some.

End of the day, player's concern is 10cp or 20cp. Is the valuation of ninjas now worth it? Did they miss out on opportunities?

The answer is.. it's not at 20cp, but very worth it at 10cp which is offered for half a day of day 1 after maintenance.

Anyways.. this story is explained over and over because post keep getting deleted.

Oasis made some decision right on the spot yesterday. It's suppose to be 20cp now. And by now, it's obvious nothing will get roll back.

Oasis also made some losses for offering at 10cp in the first place. But, I'm sure players are not concern about that as well.

Oasis wrote off their losses and called it Luck some early birds had on the feast.


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On 2018-10-05 16:16:45Show this Author Only
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  • warterman On 2018-10-05 16:02:53
  • do ur research bro LMAO. It was 10 coupons before

I play since almost two years, i know what i say.

The only change this event had during the whole 3.0 and 4.0 was in the drop rate of items in the sacks. Before 4.0 the average was 6/7 points every 5 sacks, after 4.0 (or in late 3.0, don't remember exactly when), was increased to the current 9/10 every 5 sacks.

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On 2018-10-05 16:55:17Show this Author Only
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  • warterman On 2018-10-05 15:03:02
  • this is so true.

    i despise some players who have bad black heart , who dont want other players to get cheapest or cheaper price of ninjas for many reasons. Thanks to them, The best event sakurast event got nerfed now just like great plates. If only they can shut their mouth about sakuras events get buff on it. I dont care about that naruto birthday event, but i do care about sakuras events since the cheapest way to get adv refine runes is gone now. RIP.

    Oasis shouldnt get provoked easily by other players who have that black heart. If this is continue, we wont ever get event that sell items with cheap price.

    way to go black heart squad, way to go provocateurs

Great Plates gets Buffed and Nerfed constantly.

When it first made a come back it was god tier, then the 2nd time it came around, it was crap when the amount of frags changed.

Then it was buffed with the Kushina week. Then we had 2 weeks of Kakashi Shonen Frags. Then went back to being nerfed.

Odds are the next Great Plates, is going to be good.

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On 2018-10-05 17:46:02Show this Author Only
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So last event when everyone was gettting Minato for 8-9k it was OK, but now its suddenly not. But knowing Oasis this wont lead to anything.




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On 2018-10-05 20:15:14Show this Author Only
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  • MegaMind On 2018-10-05 17:46:02
  • So last event when everyone was gettting Minato for 8-9k it was OK, but now its suddenly not. But knowing Oasis this wont lead to anything.

Minato was for 5-6k not that high, i got minato for 5k coupons but makes no difference since he was basically given for free in thefollowing next week in fukuromaru deals




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On 2018-10-05 20:29:40Show this Author Only
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I also got shisui for 4.5k cpns

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On 2018-10-05 20:37:24Show this Author Only
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  • T_0_M_B_0_L_0_C On 2018-10-05 16:09:47
  • That's true it's 20cp before version 5.0. However that's not the real point.

    Some are misinformed, some take it 10cp is the now price since 5.0.

    No one really cares if Oasis end up labeled a liar by some.

    End of the day, player's concern is 10cp or 20cp. Is the valuation of ninjas now worth it? Did they miss out on opportunities?

    The answer is.. it's not at 20cp, but very worth it at 10cp which is offered for half a day of day 1 after maintenance.

    Anyways.. this story is explained over and over because post keep getting deleted.

    Oasis made some decision right on the spot yesterday. It's suppose to be 20cp now. And by now, it's obvious nothing will get roll back.

    Oasis also made some losses for offering at 10cp in the first place. But, I'm sure players are not concern about that as well.

    Oasis wrote off their losses and called it Luck some early birds had on the feast.


What early birds?Some people like me were offline because they were AT WORK .

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On 2018-10-05 22:42:27Show this Author Only
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Just mainly mad at the fact some servers had many hours to jump on this, but then they take it away. HK had what 12 hours I bet most of them got what they wanted. Really makes me mad that they changed it when so many people took advantage of it. It's like I read in another post. Imagine going to a store for a deal, but when it's your turn the deal is over or they refuse to let you have it. The compensation better be good or a lot of people will be mad. The fact that they aren't giving out coupons or ninja frags makes me think it wont be.

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On 2018-10-06 00:41:51Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-05 16:04:49
  • It was not. The one with Killer Bee was indeed 10 coupons but the event originally started at 20 coupons/foodsack.

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On 2018-10-06 00:43:57Show this Author Only
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On 2018-10-06 01:19:05Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-05 16:16:45
  • I play since almost two years, i know what i say.

    The only change this event had during the whole 3.0 and 4.0 was in the drop rate of items in the sacks. Before 4.0 the average was 6/7 points every 5 sacks, after 4.0 (or in late 3.0, don't remember exactly when), was increased to the current 9/10 every 5 sacks.

the price had been 10 coupons before XD. What are you talking about LMAO

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On 2018-10-06 01:29:59Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-05 16:04:49
  • It was not. The one with Killer Bee was indeed 10 coupons but the event originally started at 20 coupons/foodsack.

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On 2018-10-06 04:55:53Show this Author Only
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1) the price of food packs has always been 10cp, i've played this game since it launched day 1, i complained about this event since at 10 cp even with ranking rewards it wasnt worth spending on as a whale(290k power s2 Shadowblaze) originally, when the ranking rewards were changed it became worth spending on only if you could get first for the 1k points, not if you need to get 3k points to beat other whales.


2) daiske said that 20cp was supposed to be the price for packs, he meant for this instance of the event. if you compare the prices of ninjas this time and previous times, the ninjas this time are at lower point requirements for their value. by reducing the point values it makes the event better for f2p since you get the same amount of free points but can buy more frags for those free points, it does make the event worse for people who planned to buy the packs for the normal items tho since their prices remained the same.

So instead of the event being worth buying packs for adv refines while working toward first place, adv refines are worth more from the normal shop even accounting for the first place ranking rewards. It isn't a terrible thing since there are better events for getting stuff this week anyway, so long as you didn't just want that 5 kage summit madara.


tldr: they make an event more f2p friendly and people still complain. LOL


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On 2018-10-06 05:08:42Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-10-06 04:55:53
  • 1) the price of food packs has always been 10cp, i've played this game since it launched day 1, i complained about this event since at 10 cp even with ranking rewards it wasnt worth spending on as a whale(290k power s2 Shadowblaze) originally, when the ranking rewards were changed it became worth spending on only if you could get first for the 1k points, not if you need to get 3k points to beat other whales.


    2) daiske said that 20cp was supposed to be the price for packs, he meant for this instance of the event. if you compare the prices of ninjas this time and previous times, the ninjas this time are at lower point requirements for their value. by reducing the point values it makes the event better for f2p since you get the same amount of free points but can buy more frags for those free points, it does make the event worse for people who planned to buy the packs for the normal items tho since their prices remained the same.

    So instead of the event being worth buying packs for adv refines while working toward first place, adv refines are worth more from the normal shop even accounting for the first place ranking rewards. It isn't a terrible thing since there are better events for getting stuff this week anyway, so long as you didn't just want that 5 kage summit madara.


    tldr: they make an event more f2p friendly and people still complain. LOL


Most people are complaining/mad because of the price change yes. Majority are mad that HK had 12 whole hours to get the ninjas half off. Others had an opportunity too, but less time. RIP LA never had a chance. Most people wouldn't be mad if this was avoided in the first place.

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