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On 2018-09-30 16:25:16Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Is edo hiruzen worth to be run with a water main? I saw that he always crit and it can do a good with neurotoxin

P.S: I don't have shisui and I tryed him with danzo but I lose hard vs root of warrior teams even if they are 20k less because round 2 I am useless so even if I get shisui, he will be pos 2 if I want to give my best equipments to hiru pos 1 to do damage so what's the solution to make a good team that don't die in round 2?




This post was last edited by Exvius on 2018-09-30 16:25:16.
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On 2018-09-30 06:33:30Show this Author Only
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If you are playing competitive games hiruzen is literally useless.. he barely even does dmg with his mystery and only you can count on him is his standart...Hiruzen aint the choice for ''PVP'' thats why no one would even bother answering this... but anyway max you c*e him is a support he isnt suited for pos 1 guy no matter what team or main u use... unless you are a guy with 40k or even more power on you that you just want to wipe out the enemies in sage so you can get streaks fast. WHALE STYLE no jutsu... thats what hiruzen actually is

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On 2018-09-30 07:11:31Show this Author Only
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  • CHROLLOLUCILFER On 2018-09-30 06:33:30
  • If you are playing competitive games hiruzen is literally useless.. he barely even does dmg with his mystery and only you can count on him is his standart...Hiruzen aint the choice for ''PVP'' thats why no one would even bother answering this... but anyway max you c*e him is a support he isnt suited for pos 1 guy no matter what team or main u use... unless you are a guy with 40k or even more power on you that you just want to wipe out the enemies in sage so you can get streaks fast. WHALE STYLE no jutsu... thats what hiruzen actually is

So I did a wrong choice geting him? :\

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On 2018-09-30 07:50:34Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-09-30 07:11:31
  • So I did a wrong choice geting him? :\

Neurotoxin works when water main crits, not hiruzen and you need a lot of control stat on your main compared to opponent. Majority of the players use him when they have a relative large gap between the players below them. This is because they want hiruzen to use his mystery at position 1 in turn 1 with max damage. The go-to main for this team is earth and if you choose anything else, you have to believe that you are much stronger than the players you face. Just wondering, what is your server # and power to see if you above the average player on your server.


The only thing I can say is that if you want to use him (you might as well since you spent on him) then go earth main and use him with edo sasori and asuma windblade - which is the closest f2p team for edo hiruzen and spend everything hiruzen to buff him. Otherwise, you did not think it through to make the decision if you are capable on using him just like those youtube videos you seen.






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On 2018-09-30 14:56:13Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-09-30 07:11:31
  • So I did a wrong choice geting him? :\

Nope. He’s useful

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On 2018-09-30 15:55:05Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-09-30 07:11:31
  • So I did a wrong choice geting him? :\

No. He is a great ninja. It is also not true, that he can only be played as buffed positoin 1 (that's just his most common use in sage world). He fits perfectly as buffer on 3rd or 4th Position.

But Water Main is not about bursting down opponents, so yes in Water-Main he is not a good choice.

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On 2018-09-30 18:17:30Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2018-09-30 07:50:34
  • Neurotoxin works when water main crits, not hiruzen and you need a lot of control stat on your main compared to opponent. Majority of the players use him when they have a relative large gap between the players below them. This is because they want hiruzen to use his mystery at position 1 in turn 1 with max damage. The go-to main for this team is earth and if you choose anything else, you have to believe that you are much stronger than the players you face. Just wondering, what is your server # and power to see if you above the average player on your server.


    The only thing I can say is that if you want to use him (you might as well since you spent on him) then go earth main and use him with edo sasori and asuma windblade - which is the closest f2p team for edo hiruzen and spend everything hiruzen to buff him. Otherwise, you did not think it through to make the decision if you are capable on using him just like those youtube videos you seen.



I have 105k power and I'm from S857

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On 2018-09-30 18:22:20Show this Author Only
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  • Pupsiiiii On 2018-09-30 15:55:05
  • No. He is a great ninja. It is also not true, that he can only be played as buffed positoin 1 (that's just his most common use in sage world). He fits perfectly as buffer on 3rd or 4th Position.

    But Water Main is not about bursting down opponents, so yes in Water-Main he is not a good choice.

Yeah but I think iruka is better for buffs. he also give shields and intreruption if enemy have a barrier ninja or a non prompt mystery or idk... a han if I have enough timing

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On 2018-09-30 20:19:26Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-09-30 18:22:20
  • Yeah but I think iruka is better for buffs. he also give shields and intreruption if enemy have a barrier ninja or a non prompt mystery or idk... a han if I have enough timing

Irukas kit is much worse. Yes, he gives a shield, but unless there is no way you make it to 30 hits, you should not put him over Hiruzen.

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  • Pupsiiiii On 2018-09-30 20:19:26
  • Irukas kit is much worse. Yes, he gives a shield, but unless there is no way you make it to 30 hits, you should not put him over Hiruzen.

I don't need to get 30 combos if I have iruka. I don't mean that I want to use hiruzen and iruka in the same team. I just say that iruka give shields too and it have evasion. If I use hiruzena s a buffer instead of iruka I lose like 2k power and no shields also

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