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On 2018-08-09 17:06:39Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Do items in lucky * drop randomly or you have to draw a certain time to get what you want ? (ex : edo deidara, tsunad frag...)

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On 2018-08-09 17:13:16Show this Author Only
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When its RNG event there are no such certain pull . it probably takes just bellow 1k or Nothing even u spend 30k++




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On 2018-08-09 17:36:35Show this Author Only
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Lucky * is actually the only full random event together with great plates,in the sense that there is no riggedness, just you and the dice rng rolls for you.

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On 2018-08-09 19:33:53Show this Author Only
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I see, thank guys for answering me :D

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On 2018-08-13 14:41:37Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-08-09 17:36:35
  • Lucky * is actually the only full random event together with great plates,in the sense that there is no riggedness, just you and the dice rng rolls for you.

How do you know this? Or are you just speculating? As far as I know, Oasis etc et al have stated time and again that ALL events are pure RNG.....but based solely on my opinion that isn't backed up by concrete proof or facts that I can produce, it appears that there is some algorithm behind the scenes that can "adjust" a rng win rate....how that could be factored (time played, ingots spent, level, power, last time since rng jackpot get, etc) is beyond me.


In short, I have seen quite a few low levels outright spin and win jackpot prizes more so than * players that never miss a day, but unless Oasis says otherwise, its just RNG.


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From personal experience, I have always found myself at the short end of the RNG *....but the last two Lucky Stars Wheels that have been put out, I was fortunate to get blessed with E.G Kakuzu and Masked Man.


With Kakuzu, I spent roughly about 4.6k coupons spread throughout the week. (usually 20 spins per day, may have skipped a day). Masked Man, I did max spin on maybe day two (wanted power up items and bonus Hashirama frags) and on the 4th day, did 600 cps and got him. Both I feel I was extremely lucky. But what can I say? I'm a gambler at heart!




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On 2018-08-13 18:04:33Show this Author Only
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  • Shyuko On 2018-08-13 14:41:37
  • How do you know this? Or are you just speculating? As far as I know, Oasis etc et al have stated time and again that ALL events are pure RNG.....but based solely on my opinion that isn't backed up by concrete proof or facts that I can produce, it appears that there is some algorithm behind the scenes that can "adjust" a rng win rate....how that could be factored (time played, ingots spent, level, power, last time since rng jackpot get, etc) is beyond me.


    In short, I have seen quite a few low levels outright spin and win jackpot prizes more so than * players that never miss a day, but unless Oasis says otherwise, its just RNG.


    ***


    From personal experience, I have always found myself at the short end of the RNG *....but the last two Lucky Stars Wheels that have been put out, I was fortunate to get blessed with E.G Kakuzu and Masked Man.


    With Kakuzu, I spent roughly about 4.6k coupons spread throughout the week. (usually 20 spins per day, may have skipped a day). Masked Man, I did max spin on maybe day two (wanted power up items and bonus Hashirama frags) and on the 4th day, did 600 cps and got him. Both I feel I was extremely lucky. But what can I say? I'm a gambler at heart!

What matters is that it is not guaranteed and that is what people are wondering. It's better to say it is not guaranteed than giving people false hope when they spent more than they wished for and got nothing.




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On 2018-08-14 04:35:09Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2018-08-13 18:04:33
  • What matters is that it is not guaranteed and that is what people are wondering. It's better to say it is not guaranteed than giving people false hope when they spent more than they wished for and got nothing.

True, but even when one plays the lottery, there are the odds for you right there and everyone has an equal opportunity to play and same chance to win across the board. Anything that includes chance, its already implied that it isn't guaranteed.


Is it possible that the reason why Oasis doesn't release/include drop rates is due to the fact that there is a fluctuating algorithm? Who knows....but only the actual employees/coders at Oasis might.

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On 2018-08-14 05:42:41Show this Author Only
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  • Shyuko On 2018-08-14 04:35:09
  • True, but even when one plays the lottery, there are the odds for you right there and everyone has an equal opportunity to play and same chance to win across the board. Anything that includes chance, its already implied that it isn't guaranteed.


    Is it possible that the reason why Oasis doesn't release/include drop rates is due to the fact that there is a fluctuating algorithm? Who knows....but only the actual employees/coders at Oasis might.

Even though it is implied, some still try and complain when they see others being able to get it when they couldn't. They have to understand that you have to be prepared to lose what you are willing give up. That's what is frustrating since they are aware of the negatives but only look at the positives of spending which is getting something they want.




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On 2018-08-14 08:30:58Show this Author Only
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  • Shyuko On 2018-08-13 14:41:37
  • How do you know this? Or are you just speculating? As far as I know, Oasis etc et al have stated time and again that ALL events are pure RNG.....but based solely on my opinion that isn't backed up by concrete proof or facts that I can produce, it appears that there is some algorithm behind the scenes that can "adjust" a rng win rate....how that could be factored (time played, ingots spent, level, power, last time since rng jackpot get, etc) is beyond me.


    In short, I have seen quite a few low levels outright spin and win jackpot prizes more so than * players that never miss a day, but unless Oasis says otherwise, its just RNG.


    ***


    From personal experience, I have always found myself at the short end of the RNG *....but the last two Lucky Stars Wheels that have been put out, I was fortunate to get blessed with E.G Kakuzu and Masked Man.


    With Kakuzu, I spent roughly about 4.6k coupons spread throughout the week. (usually 20 spins per day, may have skipped a day). Masked Man, I did max spin on maybe day two (wanted power up items and bonus Hashirama frags) and on the 4th day, did 600 cps and got him. Both I feel I was extremely lucky. But what can I say? I'm a gambler at heart!

It's pure RNG in the sense that there is nothing known to compare to. There might be stats on the back end that affect it, but no one knows for sure. In this case, you can hit the jackpot on the first spin, or you can drop 20K coupons and still not get it. Hence the term pure RNG. Everything in the game has some RNG, but certain things are much more extreme, like this event.

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On 2018-08-14 19:42:31Show this Author Only
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On 2018-08-14 21:05:58Show this Author Only
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Jib, I am not spreading misinformation, I'm spreading facts about TI AND Survival Trial. I am also spreading a fact that when you click the spin for Lucky Stars (or any wheel), the reward is already picked the moment you click it, the animation doesn't matter at all. What you choose in TI doesn't matter as the reward is already picked for you. If I need to provide proof that Naruto Online uses this method I will when TI is open. So please refrain from deleting posts that state the truth mixed with an opinion of why something is thought a certain way. Hence my disclaimer.

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On 2018-08-14 21:09:17Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-08-14 21:05:58
  • Jib, I am not spreading misinformation, I'm spreading facts about TI AND Survival Trial. I am also spreading a fact that when you click the spin for Lucky Stars (or any wheel), the reward is already picked the moment you click it, the animation doesn't matter at all. What you choose in TI doesn't matter as the reward is already picked for you. If I need to provide proof that Naruto Online uses this method I will when TI is open. So please refrain from deleting posts that state the truth mixed with an opinion of why something is thought a certain way. Hence my disclaimer.

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On 2018-08-14 22:21:09Show this Author Only
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They should be more open , accept the fact , even it misinformation they should say something not just deleted . that will make more suspîcious , on other MMO game i ever played not really like this , they said sorry if wrong , they speak up if the player spread misinformation/ wrong info bout something .




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On 2018-08-14 22:44:26Show this Author Only
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-08-14 22:21:09
  • They should be more open , accept the fact , even it misinformation they should say something not just deleted . that will make more suspîcious , on other MMO game i ever played not really like this , they said sorry if wrong , they speak up if the player spread misinformation/ wrong info bout something .

This so much this.

The moderation that goes on this forum is one of the worst I have seen compared to other companies. Most other companies, their moderators either don't say anything and just remove posts/lock threads if they break CoC.

Or they actually join in discussions and correct people with facts if they are wrong. You don't see companies have their moderators lock discussion threads after a moderator comes in and answers a question that popped in the thread. It just seems like Jib comes into threads, answers a question then immediately locks the thread when there could be a discussion added to what Jib says. For example, what if Jib answers something, locks the thread, then someone has a question about that answer? You're basically out of luck.

But removing a post that doesn't break CoC cause it "spreads misinformation" isn't professional. Especially when majority of the post is actually correct. Especially when the post states something along the lines that it may not be true for these RNG Events but it is still believed cause of the other facts that are posted that is true especially when it is based on an opinion. It is completely different than posting misinformation passing it along as fact such as for example "Konohamaru can 1 shot every ninja with his mystery". Honestly couldn't think of a better example but meh.

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On 2018-08-14 22:48:17Show this Author Only
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In RNG events, if the jackpot reward is good, all I do is do 1 multiple spin (in this even 498 coupons for 10 spins) and then I stop after that. RNG is all about luck and if you're lucky, you're lucky. If you're not, then you will be lucky soon.

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On 2018-08-14 22:55:28Show this Author Only
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  • icebuken On 2018-08-14 22:48:17
  • In RNG events, if the jackpot reward is good, all I do is do 1 multiple spin (in this even 498 coupons for 10 spins) and then I stop after that. RNG is all about luck and if you're lucky, you're lucky. If you're not, then you will be lucky soon.

That is how I see it with RNG heavy events like Lucky *.

With every event that I'm not lucky, just gets me 1 step closer to getting lucky. Although I avoid Lucky *. as it isn't worth the coupons in my opinion. I just value my coupons more than that.

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On 2018-08-15 03:54:30Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-08-09 17:36:35
  • Lucky * is actually the only full random event together with great plates,in the sense that there is no riggedness, just you and the dice rng rolls for you.

take a dice with 12 numbers on. pick number 8 that is your edo deidara. now throw the dies. 100 times see how many deidara frags you get. that is rng. luckey star is rigged with % on fields.

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On 2018-08-15 04:17:48Show this Author Only
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  • takosabi On 2018-08-14 08:30:58
  • It's pure RNG in the sense that there is nothing known to compare to. There might be stats on the back end that affect it, but no one knows for sure. In this case, you can hit the jackpot on the first spin, or you can drop 20K coupons and still not get it. Hence the term pure RNG. Everything in the game has some RNG, but certain things are much more extreme, like this event.

well you seeing random low levels getting the jackpots more often than consistently active players isn't that surprising.

In a server lets say 500 total players join and get to lvl 70. Of those 500, maybe 30-50 or so will be fully active after a year, and the other 450 will have dropped out/only check in once a week or so. So given this, its much more likely that if everyone rolled in an RNG event 10 times, the winner will come from one of the 450 randoms than the 50 actives.

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