I will add a bit from myself~ Many people here are totally right and both sides of discussion too- people want to have as effective team as possible and if there's model of a team that is just great- they will aim for it and use it- because why make game harder? If someone already find out, tested and rock with certain lineup- then it's fine to copy.
And there are people who can't follow me
There are also those who just wanna play their fav ninjas or have fun with new teams so they will build new, creative teams and won't look at W/L ratio SO MUCH, because they have different targets in this game. Or simply refuse to play me
And you can't force any of them to change how they see this game and their way of playing- so just let everyone have fun their way. And as long as it happens to be annoying to see all the same lineups whole time- if something is a common problem then best is to build common counter for it.
As for me- I'm low spender without much lack for event ninjas and I'm always trying to build and play some new, more creative teams- as for now I'm mostly proud of my arena champ team: Han, Mei, Yagura with fire main- another season and going strong with 6 paths, gained within 2 hours of playing ranked. Han is awesome against all the Midnighty-chans and Yagura is life saver for when I don't get my barrier. And that team was created with main reason to break OP, at some time, team of 1010/Mei/Mabui and it did works just perfect.
And last thing- this game could be 100% creative when it comes to strategies and lineups only if all the ninjas had same good stats and skills- totally balanced to the point when you could drop a team with Choji and he would own Shark/Angel team. In short words- not really possible.
i never said i was forcing ppl to change their way of playing... I even said so many times on the post that i wasn't trying to stop people from using it or say it's wrong... My point is that we're going against one of the main purposes of the game by doing it. You are allowed to do anything you want when it comes to your teams, you have that freedom, i'm not trying to take that away from you lol i'm just telling you that you are missing a big part of the game by doing it and that ends up usually on people giving up early and the servers end up paying for that.
That's it lol i've said countless times i'm not against you doing it or that i'm telling you to stop doing it, just telling you what happens most of the times after you do that.
btw the shark angel team is kinda overrated xD i can beat it easily personally, but again you need to make your strategy to do so
i never said i was forcing ppl to change their way of playing... I even said so many times on the post that i wasn't trying to stop people from using it or say it's wrong... My point is that we're going against one of the main purposes of the game by doing it. You are allowed to do anything you want when it comes to your teams, you have that freedom, i'm not trying to take that away from you lol i'm just telling you that you are missing a big part of the game by doing it and that ends up usually on people giving up early and the servers end up paying for that.
That's it lol i've said countless times i'm not against you doing it or that i'm telling you to stop doing it, just telling you what happens most of the times after you do that.
btw the shark angel team is kinda overrated xD i can beat it easily personally, but again you need to make your strategy to do so
Yep. Its just the way the game is. All the ninjas you mention are just so good compared to others. Little creativity in a game with 100+ ninjas
EDIT: just to be clear this is a PVP game. So the freedom SLAYER mentioned isn't really there, honestly. Either you copy or be little to not effective at all.
on bonds he can control it i guess, unless you have a lot of stacked shields but yes some ppl just spent 600$ thinking he could just beat everyone with no effort.
My opinion on edo hiruzen: For me he's the type of char that people that hate the game use, because it takes no skill to use him, he fast kills, which is what these guys want, they probably hate every event on this game but they feel stuck to the game cause they already spent a lot, so they get this guy that finishes a fight in half of a second and they don't have to care about skills or strategy or way of playing or anything... Maybe that's not the case but that's the impression it gives me
nope, on bonds it's enough 1 hokage minato or 1 han+kisame samehada and they are very easy to face on par power.
it's up to you if following them or not, is not said at all that chinese options are the best in our gameplay because our high tier ninja availability is way different than in china (look at how many people owns hokage minato, shisui and kushina habanero in comparison with the average chinese player!). And some options we have make some ninjas that in china are op not so op here because or we miss some feature or we have them implemented before others.
Oasis is planning the distribution of the ninjas and of the features exactly to avoid that chinese me
You forgot that people will also get bored and quit if they play creative but weak teams. And if you create a well balanced team people will be quick to copy it anyway. It is sad, but this is how this kind of games are.
This is why the best phase of the game is mid game when people have some ninja from treasures, but maybe not a full me
Maybe in the future when we have more ninja and breakthroughs we'll see more creative teams. Oh wait... half the community are already putting together their kakuzos and edo deidaras
Im halfway in getting kakuzu and angel konan. Youre right here buddy. Already piece deidara and have extra frag to SB him. And i will be playing lot of kakuZus in the future. The thing here is whatever creative your lineup is, when your facing the likes of angel konan and your using lets say creative but easy to get ninjas and already free in the game like Tayuya variant then I bet you will still be wrecked. Thats why lot of people tends to copy lineups. When kakuzu has SB in the future, the game will release its “anti” in a long period of time and only few lineups can defeat it unless you pay lots of money to get madara 5 kage, edo itachi, sasuke sasunoo and others which EN server most players wont spend a bit money. And kakuzu users will enjoy the 6 months duration of wrecking somebody without the same lineup.
nope, on bonds it's enough 1 hokage minato or 1 han+kisame samehada and they are very easy to face on par power.
han would only work if you have more ini than the guy... And the chances of you having more ini than a guy who spent 600$ on a single ninja are very slim as you can imagine
it's up to you if following them or not, is not said at all that chinese options are the best in our gameplay because our high tier ninja availability is way different than in china (look at how many people owns hokage minato, shisui and kushina habanero in comparison with the average chinese player!). And some options we have make some ninjas that in china are op not so op here because or we miss some feature or we have them implemented before others.
Oasis is planning the distribution of the ninjas and of the features exactly to avoid that chinese me
i'm glad they are doing something about it... If the game is too similar to the CN version we'll always be following what they are doing all the time. Of course it's up to us if we follow or not, everyone is free of doing what they want with their account but i'm just saying, people who usually play like that get tired of the game very quickly, then they leave and the servers die... Ofc there are other factors that help kill the servers but that's a big factor...
i'm glad they are doing something about it... If the game is too similar to the CN version we'll always be following what they are doing all the time. Of course it's up to us if we follow or not, everyone is free of doing what they want with their account but i'm just saying, people who usually play like that get tired of the game very quickly, then they leave and the servers die... Ofc there are other factors that help kill the servers but that's a big factor...
If they get bored of playing because of following me
I wouldn't say me
atm i'm using angel konan shisui and gakido with breeze, i made it on the simulator and tested it on the arena and turned out great... But for sometime i've been using shisui killer b and kushina, full immune squad... it's very useful to have a full immune squad with you at sage cause lots of ppl use the usual poison and ignition stack type of squads, even though its not a very effective team in terms of fast kill to gather points on sage but that's something to improve in the future
Its easy for p2w to make some fun teams and play game when they have all ninjas and power, what should i do? i was lucky with shisui and now i should stop using him and ofc i have to use clasic light main team bcs i dont have any good ninja to pair it (angel konan, madara, kurama, kushina or any other ninja on that rage)with him,when i c*e really strong lineup(masked, shisui, itachi) and im using it like 4-5 months maybe even more. :P
Its easy for p2w to make some fun teams and play game when they have all ninjas and power, what should i do? i was lucky with shisui and now i should stop using him and ofc i have to use clasic light main team bcs i dont have any good ninja to pair it (angel konan, madara, kurama, kushina or any other ninja on that rage)with him,when i c*e really strong lineup(masked, shisui, itachi) and im using it like 4-5 months maybe even more. :P
it's easy but most of them don't do it... You don't have to stop using shisui, he can fit in hundreds of different and effective teams
i said on par power lol
still even if you have double han, double shark whatever the case it may be, they will have more ini than you, you won't be able to steal their barrier or remove their buffs before they can hit you with their mysteries... The only way i thought of battling those types of 1 man army squads is a big stack of shields, for example double gaara and crimson fist, that could work but i still have to try that out some day
If they get bored of playing because of following me
I wouldn't say me
it's mostly boring me
still even if you have double han, double shark whatever the case it may be, they will have more ini than you, you won't be able to steal their barrier or remove their buffs before they can hit you with their mysteries... The only way i thought of battling those types of 1 man army squads is a big stack of shields, for example double gaara and crimson fist, that could work but i still have to try that out some day
and that's the point.
the two mysteries alone are not enough to kill you on par power.
they don't even come close in doing it, uness you are made of paper tissue or their power is fake power (as, for example, a 130k that owns a 60k move 1, that's in no way a 130k power...)
and i didn't say to use two hans and two kisames, but one team with 1 han/sand dust/masked man/edo yugito and 1 team with 1 kisame samehada.
other options are hokage minato, as i said, or going CF + gaara or some other shielding ninjas.
and that's the point.
the two mysteries alone are not enough to kill you on par power.
they don't even come close in doing it, uness you are made of paper tissue or their power is fake power (as, for example, a 130k that owns a 60k move 1, that's in no way a 130k power...)
and i didn't say to use two hans and two kisames, but one team with 1 han/sand dust/masked man/edo yugito and 1 team with 1 kisame samehada.
other options are hokage minato, as i said, or going CF + gaara or some other shielding ninjas.
well most of them have hiruzen fully stacked with all the best things with huge critical rates... And we can't forget that they usually have their teams full buffed with edo sasori, a barrier ninja like shisui for example, edo asuma or wb asuma, fire main's nin urge 15% increase on ninjutsu and also the 40% nin increase that edo hiruzen gives himself... It's a lot of buffs. Believe me i'm not made of paper tissue and i still have troubles fighting those squads, cause the teams i usually go with on bonds don't have any shields and i'm depending on my partner to have normal gaara or crimson's shield passive to supp me....
it's easy but most of them don't do it... You don't have to stop using shisui, he can fit in hundreds of different and effective teams
for example? and then ill prob be killed by 20k less guy while with this i can kill guys with 20k more than i have............
China servers aren't some wonderland where there isn't copying other peoples' teams.
Also, the "purpose of the game" is almost certainly more about maximizing resources than it is even building new teams. As such, I think there might actually be a VERY GOOD ARGUMENT that you're trying to play the game wrong. Just sayin'
Think about it: the game even DISCOURAGES people from playing with different ninjas! It's a game of limited resources and such.
Now, maybe we should let people play how they want to play and realize that at the end of the day this is mostly going to be a subjective kinda discussion... but if we were to actually try and be as ob
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