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On 2018-07-20 23:28:29Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hey guys...


Lately i've been noticing this... It seems that we, on the UK, HK, US servers etc. are depending way too much on watching youtube vids and taking lineups from china... I feel like the purpose of this game should be creating your own squad, making your own strategies etc... I'm not against people taking ideas off youtube, specially on ninja exam which can become extremely hard and i understand that you might need some help to do it, but people that fully depend on the lineups they see on youtube, use them everywhere for months will eventually get extremely tired of the same old routine... Sure you can just copy something else but i think we will eventually get tired of always having to follow what someone else is doing... I'm not saying you shouldn't use metas or teams that already exist, but i think you should go on the simulator once in a while, try different stuff, cause that's a big part of the game, you building your own strategies...

And we can see the effects from copying everywhere... You see the same lineup almost everywhere around these servers, meanwhile on china they are having real fun, real competition... they are the ones bulding the lineups and having fun doing it... We could try to do the same or else this game will become very boring for us...


Tell me what you think about this guys.


Ps: not trying to insult anyone that just follows youtubers, just saying that you will become bored with this game eventually.

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On 2018-07-20 23:53:07Show this Author Only
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I agree. Everybody with lIght main-shisui-itachi anbu-iruka or kushimaru-jimpachi-light main-sasori. So sick of this.. more than half or my server are light main because of root of warrior E===D

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On 2018-07-20 23:58:48Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-07-20 23:53:07
  • I agree. Everybody with lIght main-shisui-itachi anbu-iruka or kushimaru-jimpachi-light main-sasori. So sick of this.. more than half or my server are light main because of root of warrior E===D

yea those kinds of teams are very overused, and most ppl use that for months, i know a lot of people that got bored because they just kept using the kushimaru jinpachi team and they just left, some of them actually spent money here, so imagine the waste that is... Also not too long ago i made the lineup of shisui, kushina heba and itachi anbu (not saying i invented it, i'm sure i didn't lol, i just went on simulator, *ysed positives and negatives and saw it was a very good lineup) back then only 2 ppl ( me included) were using it, i saw the potential it had if used right, and not too long after, everyone started using it lol and of course that made me upset and i had to change teams. Thank god i have king of hell and could build something that not too many ppl can, but one guy tried my current lineup with rhino, and i guess it didn't work cause he never used it again xD

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On 2018-07-21 00:06:54Show this Author Only
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same goes to hiruzen some people thought he can control the game even had same bp or more . yet it not .

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On 2018-07-21 00:12:44Show this Author Only
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-07-21 00:06:54
  • same goes to hiruzen some people thought he can control the game even had same bp or more . yet it not .

on bonds he can control it i guess, unless you have a lot of stacked shields but yes some ppl just spent 600$ thinking he could just beat everyone with no effort.


My opinion on edo hiruzen: For me he's the type of char that people that hate the game use, because it takes no skill to use him, he fast kills, which is what these guys want, they probably hate every event on this game but they feel stuck to the game cause they already spent a lot, so they get this guy that finishes a fight in half of a second and they don't have to care about skills or strategy or way of playing or anything... Maybe that's not the case but that's the impression it gives me

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On 2018-07-21 00:13:30Show this Author Only
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i know sure thing anout that

( EVERYONE ARE TOO LAZY TO DO THAT )

and i agree with you i even hate to see minato hokage and shisui teams in arena or in anywhere i know some ppl they never change they team from where minato was in lucky sn@tch and this was from long long long time i just hate meet those players -__-

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On 2018-07-21 00:18:46Show this Author Only
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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-07-21 00:13:30
  • i know sure thing anout that

    ( EVERYONE ARE TOO LAZY TO DO THAT )

    and i agree with you i even hate to see minato hokage and shisui teams in arena or in anywhere i know some ppl they never change they team from where minato was in lucky sn@tch and this was from long long long time i just hate meet those players -__-

they will eventually quit, it's unavoidable if they keep that up...


I know the best example, remember the water meta? Mabui tenten gnw and mei? EVERYONE used that, it was crazy, but it eventually faded away, not just the team, but the players that used it as well, like 80% of ppl that i saw using that ended up leaving, it was a very boring squad to use. Another example, the water cancer with sailor han and roshi with water main... One of my friends was using that and he left of course... That's the most boring squad to use in a game like this because you can put it on auto, it ''plays'' by itself, just healing and expecting your opponent to do little damage... Everyone that's using that currently i'll guarantee you, they will quit soon

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On 2018-07-21 00:25:45Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-21 00:18:46
  • they will eventually quit, it's unavoidable if they keep that up...


    I know the best example, remember the water meta? Mabui tenten gnw and mei? EVERYONE used that, it was crazy, but it eventually faded away, not just the team, but the players that used it as well, like 80% of ppl that i saw using that ended up leaving, it was a very boring squad to use. Another example, the water cancer with sailor han and roshi with water main... One of my friends was using that and he left of course... That's the most boring squad to use in a game like this because you can put it on auto, it ''plays'' by itself, just healing and expecting your opponent to do little damage... Everyone that's using that currently i'll guarantee you, they will quit soon

you are right in those points , also i wonder some time what's fun when you don't make your team or collect coupons only for power when this game are just to collect ninjas and make new friendship , not to copy paste others works

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On 2018-07-21 00:29:34Show this Author Only
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The thing is, there will always be a "meta" or High Competitive teams in every competitive game you play. This can't be avoided, people will play the best ninjas.

So the best thing for you to do is play "Anti-meta" that focuses on breaking the meta.

For example, Jinpachi, Kushi, Edo Sasori, LM, just run Han/MM to counter Kushi, when Kushi drops the team falls apart.

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On 2018-07-21 00:37:43Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-20 23:58:48
  • yea those kinds of teams are very overused, and most ppl use that for months, i know a lot of people that got bored because they just kept using the kushimaru jinpachi team and they just left, some of them actually spent money here, so imagine the waste that is... Also not too long ago i made the lineup of shisui, kushina heba and itachi anbu (not saying i invented it, i'm sure i didn't lol, i just went on simulator, *ysed positives and negatives and saw it was a very good lineup) back then only 2 ppl ( me included) were using it, i saw the potential it had if used right, and not too long after, everyone started using it lol and of course that made me upset and i had to change teams. Thank god i have king of hell and could build something that not too many ppl can, but one guy tried my current lineup with rhino, and i guess it didn't work cause he never used it again xD

may i ask what is your current lineup?

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On 2018-07-21 00:53:03Show this Author Only
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  • S440-Genesis On 2018-07-21 00:37:43
  • may i ask what is your current lineup?

atm i'm using angel konan shisui and gakido with breeze, i made it on the simulator and tested it on the arena and turned out great... But for sometime i've been using shisui killer b and kushina, full immune squad... it's very useful to have a full immune squad with you at sage cause lots of ppl use the usual poison and ignition stack type of squads, even though its not a very effective team in terms of fast kill to gather points on sage but that's something to improve in the future

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On 2018-07-21 00:55:47Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-07-21 00:29:34
  • The thing is, there will always be a "meta" or High Competitive teams in every competitive game you play. This can't be avoided, people will play the best ninjas.

    So the best thing for you to do is play "Anti-meta" that focuses on breaking the meta.

    For example, Jinpachi, Kushi, Edo Sasori, LM, just run Han/MM to counter Kushi, when Kushi drops the team falls apart.

that is also very true, but it's sad to look at top 100 on space time and you see the same team spammed all over the tablescore... The gm99 players also have the advantage of having a bunch of breakthroughts to work with and a lot of improved chars, so they have more variety th*

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On 2018-07-21 01:53:24Show this Author Only
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The things you've said is all okay for me, but the only thing that irritates me is the idea of comparing things from other versions of the game to what we are having and getting here .. The arguments and debates, rants and comparisons that "ah here they get it free then us pays for this","this ninja was given for free in this version, whole set", "better give full set or don't give at all" life what the *censored* man, its better to have something than nothing completely and don't take other people who is already contented with what they get with your *censored* idea .. "this is intended to be free but being sold here" like how the hell did you know that the said ninja or item is intended to be free? ah yes, because you saw it or watched it from other version's youtube video .. Everything they release and update here in EN is what the management intends to give and not anything else ..


Back to the real topic, well people tends to copy teams when they see it good and strong better than to what they self made or built .. If the said teams from other versions are good enough to gave them win then they will copy it .. Everybody wants to have a good strong team and what they will do is go for the already proved and tested teams .. I admit i'm one of those people who only copies teams from other people of from youtubers but sometimes i adjust the compositions specially if i don't have one of the ninja .. But yeah, creating team is fun to do and i actually doing it now, i have a bunch of screenshots from simulator that i mix-match so it will be ready for me to check if i plan to use the teams i mix-match ..


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On 2018-07-21 02:13:26Show this Author Only
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Well, it kinda turned into routine... i remember the days there werent many super broken op dodgy rare event ninjas, then i used to make some pretty nice lineups for what we had, ofc with lightning main, since i dont use other mains There was kisame chojuro jigokudo lineup i made for friend, now f.e. i made some nice no-jinpachi lineups that are kinda cool, but....
If u dont use those event ninjas, u are done with game. Im still breaking through somehow with now old ay team (probably unluckiest guy on server in case of event luck), but getting rekt with 20k weaker shisui, masked man, hokage minato teams so im saving cps for shisui now. Pure f2p btw, not a single recharge.





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On 2018-07-21 04:03:33Show this Author Only
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You forgot that people will also get bored and quit if they play creative but weak teams. And if you create a well balanced team people will be quick to copy it anyway. It is sad, but this is how this kind of games are.

This is why the best phase of the game is mid game when people have some ninja from treasures, but maybe not a full meta lineup. And you c*so actually win with improvised teams because not everybody owns a shisui or a minato.

Maybe in the future when we have more ninja and breakthroughs we'll see more creative teams. Oh wait... half the community are already putting together their kakuzos and edo deidaras


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On 2018-07-21 04:03:49Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-07-21 01:53:24
  • The things you've said is all okay for me, but the only thing that irritates me is the idea of comparing things from other versions of the game to what we are having and getting here .. The arguments and debates, rants and comparisons that "ah here they get it free then us pays for this","this ninja was given for free in this version, whole set", "better give full set or don't give at all" life what the *censored* man, its better to have something than nothing completely and don't take other people who is already contented with what they get with your *censored* idea .. "this is intended to be free but being sold here" like how the hell did you know that the said ninja or item is intended to be free? ah yes, because you saw it or watched it from other version's youtube video .. Everything they release and update here in EN is what the management intends to give and not anything else ..


    Back to the real topic, well people tends to copy teams when they see it good and strong better than to what they self made or built .. If the said teams from other versions are good enough to gave them win then they will copy it .. Everybody wants to have a good strong team and what they will do is go for the already proved and tested teams .. I admit i'm one of those people who only copies teams from other people of from youtubers but sometimes i adjust the compositions specially if i don't have one of the ninja .. But yeah, creating team is fun to do and i actually doing it now, i have a bunch of screenshots from simulator that i mix-match so it will be ready for me to check if i plan to use the teams i mix-match ..


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i don't really care about what they get for free and we don't... My point is that they are the creators and we are just following the herd. That's not good for us. I do not care about what they get more th* or not... Fact is you go to any chinese server and it's probably full, meanwhile you go to a EN server and almost every single one is empty, except maybe from the 1 to the 100th server, for some reason that happens... Maybe it's because they have more stuff or... maybe because here the game is more boring due to us always having to copy from them...


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On 2018-07-21 04:09:59Show this Author Only
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  • SomeoneRandom On 2018-07-21 04:03:33
  • You forgot that people will also get bored and quit if they play creative but weak teams. And if you create a well balanced team people will be quick to copy it anyway. It is sad, but this is how this kind of games are.

    This is why the best phase of the game is mid game when people have some ninja from treasures, but maybe not a full meta lineup. And you c*so actually win with improvised teams because not everybody owns a shisui or a minato.

    Maybe in the future when we have more ninja and breakthroughs we'll see more creative teams. Oh wait... half the community are already putting together their kakuzos and edo deidaras


yes it's terrible this... I think this game is trying too hard to please the mega cashers and they have to realize that not everyone puts hundreds of dollars on here... Even china is guilty of this... They are giving the mega whales chars that finish fights in half of a second! It's ridiculous and i don't get the appeal... This is a strategy game lol why are they creating chars like edo hiruzen, angel konan or giving kakuzu earth grudge such an overpowered breakthrough? It's so dumb if you think about it, it contradicts the whle purpose of this game, which is to create teams and have a well planned battle strategy, it doesn't take a brain to activate edo hiruzen at the beginning of the round and he finishes the battle right away like it happens on bonds lol

And i bet with anyone on here, these guys getting chars like edo hiruzen are people that hate pvp, they hate it so they go on pvp battles with hiruzens so other ppl don't have a chance to win, ofc pvp is what rewards ppl the most so they are forced to do it, and the game is giving them chars like this... It's getting out of control... At least they decided to nerf some of these chars, that's not a bad start to correcting the mess they made

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On 2018-07-21 04:12:51Show this Author Only
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The reason we cant necessarily make to teams or innovate new stuff is what naruto online is. It's a browser game. There will always be top tier ninjas and what i meant by that is either you have the money or you dont. Power triumphs all and to get that power you need to commit to be a "p2w player". There really isnt much after that honestly. Only the 10% that actually spends alot in this game MAY think about counter teams but that'll be copy because lets be honest, there isnt much counters either. Just who have the money or who doesnt.

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On 2018-07-21 04:18:59Show this Author Only
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  • realkoolaid242@ On 2018-07-21 04:12:51
  • The reason we cant necessarily make to teams or innovate new stuff is what naruto online is. It's a browser game. There will always be top tier ninjas and what i meant by that is either you have the money or you dont. Power triumphs all and to get that power you need to commit to be a "p2w player". There really isnt much after that honestly. Only the 10% that actually spends alot in this game MAY think about counter teams but that'll be copy because lets be honest, there isnt much counters either. Just who have the money or who doesnt.

well if a guy can play really well and focus on the right things as i've done (i'm not f2p but i've cashed WAY less than the ''top dogs'' on my space time, i'm top 7 on power currently there) you have a chance of being sucessfull, but winning space time is out of the question, i've been space time expert several times but it's like you said... it comes to a point where either u have money or you don't, you can only make it so far... but never as far as you wish... there will always be that mega casher standing in front of you hungry for that win, i've already given up on winning space time, it's the only thing i haven't won yet but it's impossible at this point.... The top cashers are miles ahead on initiative

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On 2018-07-21 04:30:12Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-21 04:18:59
  • well if a guy can play really well and focus on the right things as i've done (i'm not f2p but i've cashed WAY less than the ''top dogs'' on my space time, i'm top 7 on power currently there) you have a chance of being sucessfull, but winning space time is out of the question, i've been space time expert several times but it's like you said... it comes to a point where either u have money or you don't, you can only make it so far... but never as far as you wish... there will always be that mega casher standing in front of you hungry for that win, i've already given up on winning space time, it's the only thing i haven't won yet but it's impossible at this point.... The top cashers are miles ahead on initiative

See. Very unpopular opinion: It doesn't matter how strategic you are, if you dont have the money, you're not going to win. And that *s.

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