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On 2018-07-21 04:31:10Show this Author Only
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  • realkoolaid242@ On 2018-07-21 04:30:12
  • See. Very unpopular opinion: It doesn't matter how strategic you are, if you dont have the money, you're not going to win. And that *s.

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this sooooooooooooooooooooooo true




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On 2018-07-21 04:32:20Show this Author Only
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  • realkoolaid242@ On 2018-07-21 04:30:12
  • See. Very unpopular opinion: It doesn't matter how strategic you are, if you dont have the money, you're not going to win. And that *s.

still you can manage to be sucessfull, there's no need to be the best... And having merit on your sucess is always important... That kind of opinion can be a little demotivating for the most folk out there... They can still succeed

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On 2018-07-21 05:34:41Show this Author Only
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  • funnkye On 2018-07-20 23:53:07
  • I agree. Everybody with lIght main-shisui-itachi anbu-iruka or kushimaru-jimpachi-light main-sasori. So sick of this.. more than half or my server are light main because of root of warrior E===D

Root of warrior can be removed by Han, Yugitto edo, and Masked man.

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On 2018-07-21 05:36:37Show this Author Only
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  • realkoolaid242@ On 2018-07-21 04:12:51
  • The reason we cant necessarily make to teams or innovate new stuff is what naruto online is. It's a browser game. There will always be top tier ninjas and what i meant by that is either you have the money or you dont. Power triumphs all and to get that power you need to commit to be a "p2w player". There really isnt much after that honestly. Only the 10% that actually spends alot in this game MAY think about counter teams but that'll be copy because lets be honest, there isnt much counters either. Just who have the money or who doesnt.

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On 2018-07-21 05:46:57Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-21 04:18:59
  • well if a guy can play really well and focus on the right things as i've done (i'm not f2p but i've cashed WAY less than the ''top dogs'' on my space time, i'm top 7 on power currently there) you have a chance of being sucessfull, but winning space time is out of the question, i've been space time expert several times but it's like you said... it comes to a point where either u have money or you don't, you can only make it so far... but never as far as you wish... there will always be that mega casher standing in front of you hungry for that win, i've already given up on winning space time, it's the only thing i haven't won yet but it's impossible at this point.... The top cashers are miles ahead on initiative

Even high spenders have the same issue as you. Unless you are the top whale, you pretty much cannot win space time unless they no show. Play to have fun, and not being #1. You'll never be #1 in your server bracket unless you are spending ten's of thousands of dollars a year on this game.

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On 2018-07-21 05:55:04Show this Author Only
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On 2018-07-21 06:04:34Show this Author Only
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The idea of "creating your own squad, making your own strategies" sounds very nice, but if you think about it, in a game like naruto where a person can only use 3 other ninjas + the main, teams that will actually be good limited to a small pool. I agree it's a bit tiring to see so many of the same teams, and that's why I enjoyed the mid-game the most where not everyone had the ninjas to make a complete meta team and had to test out ideas using the rare ninjas they pulled and other substitutes. I run the Kushi blitz, but it's not like I haven't tested out other teams. I have jonin minato, roshi, a few rares here and there from treasures, but testing them out in actuality, they don't seem to have the same effect that Kushi has. The bond mystery might give minato a push to the frontline, but by how expensive it is right now, I still need to piece the materials slowly. meta teams are there cuz they are top tier, and there isn't any way around it. And since this game is limited resourced, no one wants to waste their scrolls, money, coupons, and they will go for the teams that have stabilized themselves as the best.

My Mains Teams From My Journey in Naruto:

-SB, Hinata, Sasuke, Kabuto

-MB, Kimi, Sasuke, Kabuto

-MB, Kimi, Iruka, Sasuke

-MB, Danzo, Iruka, Kimi

-AF, Mei, GNW 1010, Mabui

-Chojuro, Mei, Ao, AF

-Chojuro, Mei, Mangetsu, AF

-Kushi, Jinpachi, Mangetsu, LM

-Kushi, Jinpachi, Onoki, LM

-Kushi, Jinpachi, Edo Sasori, LM


My tested teams prob go at least twice if not 3 times as long as that; it's just to a certain point, one team will have the best results and until you get something extremely good, nothing will change.






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On 2018-07-21 06:26:10Show this Author Only
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  • takosabi On 2018-07-21 05:46:57
  • Even high spenders have the same issue as you. Unless you are the top whale, you pretty much cannot win space time unless they no show. Play to have fun, and not being #1. You'll never be #1 in your server bracket unless you are spending ten's of thousands of dollars a year on this game.

that's right, but even in sage these ppl try to dominate everything... the big whales actually go hunting for any threats to them or their group members... It's hard to play with these ppl going around trying to prove some point lol everybody knows they stink without their cash so whatever point they are trying to prove, it's failling hard, everybody knows it's ''fake'' power cause it's all cash made

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On 2018-07-21 06:31:55Show this Author Only
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  • vsai12 On 2018-07-21 06:04:34
  • The idea of "creating your own squad, making your own strategies" sounds very nice, but if you think about it, in a game like naruto where a person can only use 3 other ninjas + the main, teams that will actually be good limited to a small pool. I agree it's a bit tiring to see so many of the same teams, and that's why I enjoyed the mid-game the most where not everyone had the ninjas to make a complete meta team and had to test out ideas using the rare ninjas they pulled and other substitutes. I run the Kushi blitz, but it's not like I haven't tested out other teams. I have jonin minato, roshi, a few rares here and there from treasures, but testing them out in actuality, they don't seem to have the same effect that Kushi has. The bond mystery might give minato a push to the frontline, but by how expensive it is right now, I still need to piece the materials slowly. meta teams are there cuz they are top tier, and there isn't any way around it. And since this game is limited resourced, no one wants to waste their scrolls, money, coupons, and they will go for the teams that have stabilized themselves as the best.

    My Mains Teams From My Journey in Naruto:

    -SB, Hinata, Sasuke, Kabuto

    -MB, Kimi, Sasuke, Kabuto

    -MB, Kimi, Iruka, Sasuke

    -MB, Danzo, Iruka, Kimi

    -AF, Mei, GNW 1010, Mabui

    -Chojuro, Mei, Ao, AF

    -Chojuro, Mei, Mangetsu, AF

    -Kushi, Jinpachi, Mangetsu, LM

    -Kushi, Jinpachi, Onoki, LM

    -Kushi, Jinpachi, Edo Sasori, LM


    My tested teams prob go at least twice if not 3 times as long as that; it's just to a certain point, one team will have the best results and until you get something extremely good, nothing will change.



you don't have to create something that nobody uses... That's pretty much impossible at this point in time cause most of us don't have many options as you said... But still there are many many great ninja that aren't used atm... OP ones, and with the right combination it can work wonders... Right now i'm carrying some group members in bonds with a team i made myself xD they give the supp i need, u can't win anything by yourself (unless you have edo hiruzen maybe lol)but yea sure u gotta have op ninja at your disposal though... Now we got that tsunade breakthrough and i think the possibilities will be endless, she can fit in a lot of teams


Personally the kushi team, i've tried it too and i hated it, maybe i used it wrong or something but personally for me, didn't work very well xD




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On 2018-07-21 06:48:25Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-21 06:31:55
  • you don't have to create something that nobody uses... That's pretty much impossible at this point in time cause most of us don't have many options as you said... But still there are many many great ninja that aren't used atm... OP ones, and with the right combination it can work wonders... Right now i'm carrying some group members in bonds with a team i made myself xD they give the supp i need, u can't win anything by yourself (unless you have edo hiruzen maybe lol)but yea sure u gotta have op ninja at your disposal though... Now we got that tsunade breakthrough and i think the possibilities will be endless, she can fit in a lot of teams


    Personally the kushi team, i've tried it too and i hated it, maybe i used it wrong or something but personally for me, didn't work very well xD

lol maybe u didn't stack enough xD; my kushi has like 35% on my team's power, but becuz i stack so hard, i find running water main teams tough, since it requires water main to survive

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On 2018-07-21 06:53:07Show this Author Only
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  • vsai12 On 2018-07-21 06:48:25
  • lol maybe u didn't stack enough xD; my kushi has like 35% on my team's power, but becuz i stack so hard, i find running water main teams tough, since it requires water main to survive

i don't use water main either... I mostly use lightning and breeze... Everyone is immune nowadays so no point in using water main anymore in my opinion... Ya i don't put all the power on a single char so maybe that's why the team didn't work for me, i like to build the other chars properly too

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On 2018-07-21 07:09:35Show this Author Only
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  • realkoolaid242@ On 2018-07-21 04:30:12
  • See. Very unpopular opinion: It doesn't matter how strategic you are, if you dont have the money, you're not going to win. And that *s.

My 2 cents. There are smart strategic spenders, some spenders that follow others, and others that say ooh shiny I needs.

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On 2018-07-21 07:37:37Show this Author Only
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I think the main reason people rely on China/Germany for teams is because they had these ninjas longer th* and have already run teams through the ringer until they find the better teams that end up becoming meta. That's why China has more variety. They are the first to get new ninjas so they actually have to do the work in figuring out what teams work and what teams don't. By the time we get new ninjas, China has already put that ninja through most teams that you can think of. I try to make teams off of what I myself think will work good, but it's hard to ignore good teams that you see in versions months to years ahead of us using while I'm watching space-time videos for entertainment purposes.

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On 2018-07-21 08:21:42Show this Author Only
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On 2018-07-21 11:03:11Show this Author Only
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the facts that this game never been "balance" and will not be "balanced" and thats how thing works, on early game with same std ninjas that benefit the most is LM if u are not spending that much/F2P, while other main seem off since all basic ninja are lighting attribute while fire main will goes down to drain on 55+ and Wind main rise up. XD. futhter more u cant go with a different team build eg: curse ninja on sub lv 40, i can get jugo maybe around lv 70++ is u faster to lv up, and by that point whats is the use of curse team. there for this game design is terrible.the bottom line is some ninjas are just too strong compare to other std ninja, thats it. thats why people stuck with same builds, same ninja and begin battle with attributes and stats.thats how u win the game. of course you can build any team as u please but maybe cost u alot since even your bp is high but your ninja might not effective as the meta thingie. do as u pleased.

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On 2018-07-21 13:21:20Show this Author Only
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ninjas are limited.. people plan to make the best they can.. not all people can spend money to pull everything in the seal treasure.. and if the team is strong.. then why didn't use that.. it's up to people what they want to use.. if you c*e edo sasori in kushimaru lineup, why the hell you wanna use other ninja that can make the team weaker.. that's the point.. understand what the meaning of meta before you wanna talk about strategy lol.. the one that made the LINEUP you see in youtube videos came from thinking aka "strategy"..

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On 2018-07-21 15:53:37Show this Author Only
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i'm not against you copying off others, everyone is free to do what they want, but believe me, you can only endure so far to always having to copy someone else... And who ends up paying for that after people get bored? The servers do, that is a big reason why more than half of the servers are running out of players. They get so used to going on youtube and just grab the popular lineup of the month, most of them you don't even require a strategy to use, and people get fed up with it cause it becomes very repetitive. But i shouldn't bother that much right? It's actually good that ppl are leaving, gives me the chance of getting my precious golden orbs on events :D

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On 2018-07-21 15:57:22Show this Author Only
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  • IkezeAkamaru On 2018-07-21 13:21:20
  • ninjas are limited.. people plan to make the best they can.. not all people can spend money to pull everything in the seal treasure.. and if the team is strong.. then why didn't use that.. it's up to people what they want to use.. if you c*e edo sasori in kushimaru lineup, why the hell you wanna use other ninja that can make the team weaker.. that's the point.. understand what the meaning of meta before you wanna talk about strategy lol.. the one that made the LINEUP you see in youtube videos came from thinking aka "strategy"..

it's a strategy from another guy lol this is a strategy game, which means YOU gotta make your own strategy, that's the intention of a strategy game. Most ppl probably don't realize this, cause they only see like 10 popular chars in front of them, but there's like 160 ninja or something in the game. Yes there are some only for collection and anothers that aren't very powerful, but there are a lot of ninja in the game that are actually good and worth using! And most ppl just see a tiny portion of those ninja, and obviously always having to work with the same 3 ninja becomes tiresome

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On 2018-07-21 16:04:10Show this Author Only
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  • Brandenlol On 2018-07-21 07:37:37
  • I think the main reason people rely on China/Germany for teams is because they had these ninjas longer th* and have already run teams through the ringer until they find the better teams that end up becoming meta. That's why China has more variety. They are the first to get new ninjas so they actually have to do the work in figuring out what teams work and what teams don't. By the time we get new ninjas, China has already put that ninja through most teams that you can think of. I try to make teams off of what I myself think will work good, but it's hard to ignore good teams that you see in versions months to years ahead of us using while I'm watching space-time videos for entertainment purposes.

that's very true... But our way of playing around here, by doing those things, actually contradicts one of the purposes of the game, which is to build your lineup... But yes if people see a great lineup in front of them they will take that lineup but i think they should at least attempt to make it better, actually find out what makes it work, put some work on it, there's always a chance of improvement that the chinese players might have missed... And by doing that you are actually learning more and more about how this game works, cause i'll bet most people are using lineups blindly and they don't even know their char's passives cause they didn't bother to read them




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On 2018-07-21 16:33:38Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-21 15:57:22
  • it's a strategy from another guy lol this is a strategy game, which means YOU gotta make your own strategy, that's the intention of a strategy game. Most ppl probably don't realize this, cause they only see like 10 popular chars in front of them, but there's like 160 ninja or something in the game. Yes there are some only for collection and anothers that aren't very powerful, but there are a lot of ninja in the game that are actually good and worth using! And most ppl just see a tiny portion of those ninja, and obviously always having to work with the same 3 ninja becomes tiresome

I will add a bit from myself~ Many people here are totally right and both sides of discussion too- people want to have as effective team as possible and if there's model of a team that is just great- they will aim for it and use it- because why make game harder? If someone already find out, tested and rock with certain lineup- then it's fine to copy.


And there are people who can't follow meta so fast, with lack of luck/resources and will just try to build what's best from what they have- or certain counter for the most meta teams/ninjas.


There are also those who just wanna play their fav ninjas or have fun with new teams so they will build new, creative teams and won't look at W/L ratio SO MUCH, because they have different targets in this game. Or simply refuse to play meta.


And you can't force any of them to change how they see this game and their way of playing- so just let everyone have fun their way. And as long as it happens to be annoying to see all the same lineups whole time- if something is a common problem then best is to build common counter for it.


As for me- I'm low spender without much lack for event ninjas and I'm always trying to build and play some new, more creative teams- as for now I'm mostly proud of my arena champ team: Han, Mei, Yagura with fire main- another season and going strong with 6 paths, gained within 2 hours of playing ranked. Han is awesome against all the Midnighty-chans and Yagura is life saver for when I don't get my barrier. And that team was created with main reason to break OP, at some time, team of 1010/Mei/Mabui and it did works just perfect.


And last thing- this game could be 100% creative when it comes to strategies and lineups only if all the ninjas had same good stats and skills- totally balanced to the point when you could drop a team with Choji and he would own Shark/Angel team. In short words- not really possible.

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