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On 2018-06-10 04:10:40Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I understand that Han removes buffs done to a units attack or ninjutsu, but would the earth mains passive "Defense Knowledge" be considered as a buff that can be removed? the same question goes for Shikamaru [Make-Out Paradise]'s passive "Hidden Jutsu Enhancement" which also increases defense and resistance for 2 rounds

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On 2018-06-10 06:59:43Show this Author Only
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Han removes any buffs that have a duration. If it doesn't have a duration he doesn't remove it.

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On 2018-06-10 21:58:22Show this Author Only
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in the game a 'buff' is an enhancement that lasts for a certain number of rounds with the only exception of barriers, since they are limited to 1 per field and disappear when the ninja that create them dies.

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On 2018-06-11 00:48:10Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-06-10 21:58:22
  • in the game a 'buff' is an enhancement that lasts for a certain number of rounds with the only exception of barriers, since they are limited to 1 per field and disappear when the ninja that create them dies.

Tool tips do say "Barriers are not buffs.".

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On 2018-06-11 23:02:52Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-06-11 00:48:10
  • Tool tips do say "Barriers are not buffs.".

i suggest you to read again what i wrote.


If i give an univocal definition of buffs like 'an enhancement that lasts for a certain quantity of rounds' then barriers would fall in this category. That's why i said 'with the exception of...' i thought was pretty clear.




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On 2018-06-12 01:11:52Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-06-11 23:02:52
  • i suggest you to read again what i wrote.


    If i give an univocal definition of buffs like 'an enhancement that lasts for a certain quantity of rounds' then barriers would fall in this category. That's why i said 'with the exception of...' i thought was pretty clear.

And the game doesn't see them as buffs, so they aren't buffs.

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On 2018-06-12 19:25:25Show this Author Only
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  • Rom Reckt On 2018-06-12 01:11:52
  • And the game doesn't see them as buffs, so they aren't buffs.

I suppose you do not know what the term 'exception' means...

If i say all my friends are tall with the exception of james, means that james, even if is a friend, is not tall...

So when garv says that a buff is an enhancement that lasts for x rounds, with the exception of barriers, means that barriers, even if are enhancements that last for x rounds, are not a buff...

First read, then if you do not know a term search in a dictionary, then reply.




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On 2018-06-13 01:32:41Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-12 19:25:25
  • I suppose you do not know what the term 'exception' means...

    If i say all my friends are tall with the exception of james, means that james, even if is a friend, is not tall...

    So when garv says that a buff is an enhancement that lasts for x rounds, with the exception of barriers, means that barriers, even if are enhancements that last for x rounds, are not a buff...

    First read, then if you do not know a term search in a dictionary, then reply.

Barriers are not even needed to be included since the game doesn't consider it a buff. That is a point.

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On 2018-06-13 01:38:30Show this Author Only
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  • Rom Reckt On 2018-06-12 01:11:52
  • And the game doesn't see them as buffs, so they aren't buffs.

it's exactly what i said.

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On 2018-06-13 01:41:12Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-06-13 01:32:41
  • Barriers are not even needed to be included since the game doesn't consider it a buff. That is a point.

lets try to reverse the question: 'do all the enhancements that last for x round are buffs?' since the answer is 'no', then naturally comes the following question: 'what is the set of the enhancements that last for x rounds that are not buffs?', answer: 'barriers'.

So, if you want to say in one single sentence what is a buff, how would you do it using those words?

answer: 'a buff is an enhancement that last for x rounds, but barriers are not buffs even if they are enhancements that last for x rounds' and how would you avoid to repeat 'enhancement that last for x rounds' since you just said it once? answer: 'a buff is an enhancement that lasts for x rounds, with the exception of barriers'.




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On 2018-06-13 03:28:31Show this Author Only
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Han can only remove things that the game registeres as"buff". Passives and Barriers both don't count as buff, therefor Han can't remove it.

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