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[ Bugs ] 4th move interrupts my promt 3rd move lol

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On 2018-06-05 03:07:56Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hi,


So yea the title says it all lol during matsuri i saw the most ridiculous thing ever, i activate my kushina 3rd move, and the guy's lightning main that was 4th move interrupts me, costing me my kushina lol. Like i think it's enough the delays and all, why does this kind of thing need to happen too? ridiculous man what's the point of building a lineup and building power and ini if matches can be decided with nonsensical moves like this?


Please investigate lol

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On 2018-06-05 16:52:52Show this Author Only
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Maybe because the guy had his best gear in move 4 and he is not aware of it. If the difference between his real move 4 initiative and your real move 3 is higher than 10k then he moves before. Lets say in matsuri his move 4 has the stats of his equipped move 1 and owns 18000 initiative, if your real move 3 has 6000 initiative then he is able to interrupt you.

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On 2018-06-05 17:32:49Show this Author Only
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Happens to me always. Welcome to mystery delay glitch. In my case, pos 3-4 of the enemy goes before my pos 1. All my ninjas have ini advantage. Seen a lot with danzo, kurunei and wind main.




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On 2018-06-05 17:33:54Show this Author Only
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In matsuri units get the average of your total stats (minus treasured tools), so it's highly unlikely...

EDIT: I was replying to Scarlettblue.




This post was last edited by AnraiHamaya on 2018-06-05 17:36:59.
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On 2018-06-05 18:23:45Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-05 16:52:52
  • Maybe because the guy had his best gear in move 4 and he is not aware of it. If the difference between his real move 4 initiative and your real move 3 is higher than 10k then he moves before. Lets say in matsuri his move 4 has the stats of his equipped move 1 and owns 18000 initiative, if your real move 3 has 6000 initiative then he is able to interrupt you.

naa bro, the guy even had less ini than me on his 4th move than my 3rd... Like i know this usually happens with delay, but never have i been interrupted like that lol, when it delays like the guys do their interrupt moves and it's like the interruption failed cause of delay in theory i activated it after them... But now no! my 3rd move now actually was interrupted by his 4th not allowing my kushina to leech life and then she died... This game is screwed man... And now controls are failling left and right! It was super rare for the controls to fail, now happens everytime, yesterday my opponent failed his control on me during space time... This kind of stuff used to be so rare lol

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On 2018-06-05 19:17:21Show this Author Only
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  • AnraiHamaya On 2018-06-05 17:33:54
  • In matsuri units get the average of your total stats (minus treasured tools), so it's highly unlikely...

    EDIT: I was replying to Scarlettblue.

That's what the team said to jiburiru but not what we all see that happens for real. If this was true would be close to impossible to see move 2s with inverted order in comparison with move 1s to not talk about moves 3s vs 4s and i am sure it never happened to you while facing people stronger than you by far (to me happened two times yesterday out of 6 battles and is not that my move 2 treasure tool is so op... but i went ahead the same).

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On 2018-06-05 19:21:50Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-06-05 18:23:45
  • naa bro, the guy even had less ini than me on his 4th move than my 3rd... Like i know this usually happens with delay, but never have i been interrupted like that lol, when it delays like the guys do their interrupt moves and it's like the interruption failed cause of delay in theory i activated it after them... But now no! my 3rd move now actually was interrupted by his 4th not allowing my kushina to leech life and then she died... This game is screwed man... And now controls are failling left and right! It was super rare for the controls to fail, now happens everytime, yesterday my opponent failed his control on me during space time... This kind of stuff used to be so rare lol

What happened is that your mystery was delayed. You were not actually interrupted but, server side, your ninja died before the server received you mystery input so, even if your ui showed you the icon of your mystery in truth the mystery was not calculated in.


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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-05 19:21:50
  • What happened is that your mystery was delayed. You were not actually interrupted but, server side, your ninja died before the server received you mystery input so, even if your ui showed you the icon of your mystery in truth the mystery was not calculated in.


no man, my ninja was actually interrupted... kushina only died after his 4th move did standard attack... I saw my kushina get stopped by the lightning seal...

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On 2018-06-06 03:12:28Show this Author Only
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i'm done playing this. Again my mysteries don't go during sage costing me the matches vs some degenerates. Sick of this. They don't fix it? that's fine. i'm DONE

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On 2018-06-06 17:35:17Show this Author Only
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Can you tell us how they were placed on the field your and his ninjas? I begin to think maybe the enemy main was not in 4th prompt move (moreover because there are not many meta lineups that put mb with acupuncture seal in move 4... )




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-06-06 17:38:06.
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On 2018-06-07 02:37:41Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-06 17:35:17
  • Can you tell us how they were placed on the field your and his ninjas? I begin to think maybe the enemy main was not in 4th prompt move (moreover because there are not many meta lineups that put mb with acupuncture seal in move 4... )

team was placed like this (masked man in place of iruka, i don't have masked man lol)

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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-06-07 02:37:41
  • team was placed like this (masked man in place of iruka, i don't have masked man lol)

lol didn't go the print...lolll




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On 2018-06-07 03:05:45Show this Author Only
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Did the lighting main who used sealing slash use any sort of summon mystery like Pakkun or Shiba when interrupting you?

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  • pizzas On 2018-06-07 03:05:45
  • Did the lighting main who used sealing slash use any sort of summon mystery like Pakkun or Shiba when interrupting you?

he uses giant katsuyu

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On 2018-06-07 03:29:17Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-06 17:35:17
  • Can you tell us how they were placed on the field your and his ninjas? I begin to think maybe the enemy main was not in 4th prompt move (moreover because there are not many meta lineups that put mb with acupuncture seal in move 4... )

lolzmy ninja were positioned this way, as u can see his main is 4th and my kushina is 3rd




This post was last edited by Kaz S590 on 2018-06-07 03:34:00.
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On 2018-06-07 04:40:41Show this Author Only
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There is one thing I noticed about summon mysteries. Once the main has clicked his mystery he will use his summon mystery before that. The thing is, the time span in where the main does his summon mystery is a point of no return. You can't under any cir*stances interrupt the main's mystery during the time span in which he does the summon mystery. When the enemy activates a mystery during that time span of no return it won't go off till the main has done his mystery. That being said, if your position 1 activates a mystery while the other main is doing his summon mystery, you won't go first but the main will. That can result in the 4th position acupuncturing and interrupting the position 1 character. In your scenario the enemy probably just wanted to do damage against your Kushina but your Kushina mystery was activated by the game during the time span in which the main did his summon mystery, resulting in Kushina being interrupted. I think I know why that is happening. The game doesn't register the summon mystery as an action before the mystery which can be used for reaction time (e.g. Mabui's 40 chakra passive) but instead it counts as part of the actual mystery. That's my theory at least.

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  • pizzas On 2018-06-07 04:40:41
  • There is one thing I noticed about summon mysteries. Once the main has clicked his mystery he will use his summon mystery before that. The thing is, the time span in where the main does his summon mystery is a point of no return. You can't under any cir*stances interrupt the main's mystery during the time span in which he does the summon mystery. When the enemy activates a mystery during that time span of no return it won't go off till the main has done his mystery. That being said, if your position 1 activates a mystery while the other main is doing his summon mystery, you won't go first but the main will. That can result in the 4th position acupuncturing and interrupting the position 1 character. In your scenario the enemy probably just wanted to do damage against your Kushina but your Kushina mystery was activated by the game during the time span in which the main did his summon mystery, resulting in Kushina being interrupted. I think I know why that is happening. The game doesn't register the summon mystery as an action before the mystery which can be used for reaction time (e.g. Mabui's 40 chakra passive) but instead it counts as part of the actual mystery. That's my theory at least.

hmmmm that's a plausible theory... but is it some sort of a bug or is it supposed to be like that?

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On 2018-06-07 22:28:43Show this Author Only
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why cant it just be simple?
If you have higher initiative, you go first


no bs, simple as that.

bc of delay, i couldnt interrupt water main and since i was fighting cancer team, that changed the match.

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On 2018-06-07 22:48:59Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-06-07 05:21:44
  • hmmmm that's a plausible theory... but is it some sort of a bug or is it supposed to be like that?

It's supposed like that. The summon is only triggered, when the mystery is triggered. It's triggered the same way a Chase is triggered / chained.

It is, so to speak, the same animation.




This post was last edited by Barrin on 2018-06-07 22:49:34.
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On 2018-06-08 03:59:38Show this Author Only
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  • sushie182 On 2018-06-07 22:28:43
  • why cant it just be simple?
    If you have higher initiative, you go first


    no bs, simple as that.

    bc of delay, i couldnt interrupt water main and since i was fighting cancer team, that changed the match.

cause this game is terrible lol at least as long as things work like this

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